Wednesday, October 5, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads must roll for Uri

I agree on communism but not on farm sector or farmers. It is true the holdings are small but you have to see it from food security angle. You have to remember the 1960-70 era of near famine conditions and pl480 programme
Middlemen must be eliminated but agril marketing committed are not easy to dismantle due to nexus of traders and politicians.
Food exchanges must be dismantled.
There should be no involvement of corporates in farm sector to run it as an industry.
Finally see it from the angle of employment
It is from this sector the armed forces get the youth to join the forces.
There are many other factors to help the farmers and the farm sector and not to weaken it
Jkgaur

On 4 Oct 2016 11:08, "R. Dua" <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

We tend to agree with Sh Sarabjit ji on this.
All points valid.
No place for communism.
No place for middlemen.
Determine price of produce and have a mechanism to deliver profits directly.
And yes finally subsidies shd become a thing of past.
Regards to all.


On 4 Oct 2016 09:18, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Cdr Singla

IAC cannot agree with you for the following  reasons

1) What you are proposing is called COMMUNISM. ie. everybody gets paid
equally whether they work or not.

2) IAC is opposed, in principle, to subsidies. There is no such thing
as a free lunch. Reckless politicians doling out subsidies are simply
spending the incomes of tommorrows generations to purchase votes
today.

3) There is no special class as FARMERS. Indian farmers are obsolete
today. The land holdings are too small sized to support the families,
yields are dwindling due to overcropping and excessive use of
fertilisers, erratic rainfed irrigation has its own problesm, as does
GM seeds and the problems of Commodity exchanges causing boom bust
cycles which wipe out small and marginal farmers who lack holding
power. But of course we have many experts on IAC who know the sector
intimately and who can correct me.

4) Instead of your suggestion, it would be better to eliminate the
commodity exchanges and install some other system to ensure accurate
price discovery of agricultural produce. The problem it seems are the
middlemen who prevent consumers and farmers coming together. Hitler
had the FINAL SOLUTION for these middlemen cockroaches. Perhaps we
should implement it.

Best regards

Sarbajit Roy


On 10/3/16, neeraj singla <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr sarabjit
>
> Let us focus on the evil of corruption.
>
> I have an idea. If we all think it is good, then let us push it.
>
> You know our govts. Dole out huge subsidiaries towards cheaper power, water,
> fertiliser etc. to our farmers. But you know most of it goes to only rich
> farmers for obvious reasons
>
> The solution can be that total subsidy be equally distributed among all
> farmers and the money be transferred directly to their individual accounts.
> And let the farmers buy everything on the market prices. It is similar to
> the LPG subsidy.
>
> As per one estimate, the amount will be about 7,500/- per month to each
> farmer family.
>
> To make it even better let the amount be transferred in the account of the
> farmer's wife.
>
> Looking forward to your kind response
>
> Regards
> Neeraj Singla
>

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