Monday, September 28, 2015

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: OROP

The entire blame goes to the Babus who have engineered this type of reverse propaganda by delaying the matter. They had  already put the politicians in their pocket from  the day  one ,India became independant. They had grabbed all the powers and assumed the role of Masters to run the country making Netas helpless.
Only Modi will be able to tame them. He may still be finding their pulse.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Major Ravi

I have no pretensions to being an intellectual. The quotes are from greater minds.

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" is attributed to Samuel Johnson

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious" to Oscar Wilde

"Patriotism is the egg from which wars are hatched" to Guy De Maupassant

"Patriot : the fellow who hollers the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about" - Mark Twain

"A nation is a society deluded about its ancestry and united in its hatred of its neighbours" - William Ralph Inge

Sarbajit

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
Not so dear Sarbajit!

Ok you do not get any pay or pension from the govt and you are paying all those in govt, including the armed forces! So you must be earning quite a bit! But then again you claim to be poor (or does the poor a qualifier for just the fool it precedes?) too. Either you should stop making stupid comments or at least stop lying!

And I cannot imagine a more idiotic statement than 'Patriotism (or rather pseudo-patriotism) is the last refuge of rascals and the virtue of the vicious. The actual meaning of patriotism stems from one who supports the rights of the land and its people AGAINST its rulers. Faujis are the "State" so by definition they CANNOT be patriots.'. 

There are two quips popular in my mother tongue-Malayalam. When translated it would mean 'I know kaajal (Hindi for the black paste applied on eyelids!) is white like turmeric' and 'I know the panch (five) Pandavas are like the three legs of a cot'! Possibly the ones who originated these quips had somebody like you mind!

But before I conclude, let it be understood by one and all: there is only one lot of people in this country condemned to lose their life and limbs if they fail to do their job (even if the reasons for such failure may not have anything to do with their own competence or dedication) and they are the soldiers, only the soldiers and none other than the soldiers!

I pray to the Lord Almighty to forgive you your trespasses and ignorance!

ravi

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Brig Saha

It seems our veterans lose their ability to detect friend from foe
once they retire if you lot routinely dish out terms like "traitor" to
describe your channel hosts.

FYI, I am not a babu. Neither do I get any pension / salary from the Govt.

What "I" am is the poor fool who pays for all the worthless and
whining rascals hiding behind terms like patriotism and nationalism
for their greedy / selfish ends. I am the person who pays for  ketchup
colonels and their fake encounters. I am the person who pays for
Adarsh Housing scams. ...

You people were paid enough for any work you allegedly did while in
service. If you couldn't save while you were in service I fail to see
why we citizens should pay for your existence and your booze once you
retire. (NB: By "you" I mean each and every person who gets a pension
- starting from our worthless MPs)

I am sure that many ordinary citizens would say much the same thing
once we leave the hypocrisy behind.

Best regards
.
Sarbajit

On 9/27/15, kashi saha <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
> Sarabjt,
> Why you donot you spk of the harm done by the your patriotic IAS super babus
> by blackmailing the Politicians. When  a person joins a service with certain
> terms and conditions through Gazette notification how can it be changed to
> down grade the same in pay and pension. All veterans and those who defended
> the nation till 1971, are all pre 1973 order issued removing the OROP and
> pension quantum( 70% of last pay drawn). Those are people fighting in
> peaceful manner trying to bring sense into these people in power.
> You are asking us to fight with you( It seems from your comment you are one
> of those glorified Babu  ) to bring down your self enhanced privileges, why
> is our job you deserve it or not you convince the Govt. what we are
> interested is a parity you increase yours increase ours too. You do not do
> any thing extra to contribute to the nation. You do your bit and we do our
> bit. If you fail we take on the job even if it is messed up so that the
> nation do not suffer. and if we fail in our job you can only suck your
> thumb. What you IAS/IFS and Political Nexus have done so far:
> 1. In 1971,You messed up the with your foreign policy with Bangladesh after
> the liberation. And it is a thorn on our back, a small helmet for terrorist
> and entry point of CFCurrency and terrorist . A proactive policy could have
> avoided all this
> 2. After 1971 You messed up with your policy against Pak even after we had
> handed over a trophy of more than 90K Pak POW., you could have bargained all
> our POW and POK.
> 3. In 1947 You messed up the Kashmir by asking us to Ceasefire when we were
> in the verge of taking over now so called POK
> 4. Twice we took over Strategic passes in Kashmir you forced us to hand them
> over now the Chinese with their armed forces have a strategic road to PAK.
> 5. Srilanka you created a problem and now we are loosing it to China.
> 6. Myanmar oil pipeline to China again failed in your foreign policy.
> 7. Internally Naxal, NE interstate relationship, sharing of water allocation
> of development fund and projects , you failed every where.
> Why IAS?? to protected constitution at national interest irrespective of
> party in power, advise the politicians who are masses rep against
> unconstitutional, antinational actions. Look into your self are doing that.
> How can any one justify subsidized food for the MPs, pensions with OROP
> principle for the MP with even one election win, There are few Khemkas and
> Chatuvedis but majority of you are self serving un patriot, with yes sir
> attitude for kushy transfer Children studying abroad and after 60 years Apex
> scale pension and member of a commission.
> You are the traitors and need to be sorted out not the politicians.
> Jai Hind         Brigadier Kashi Nath Saha  Mob: 9810728364 Email:
> knsaha44@yahoo.com

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