Thursday, February 14, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] EDUCATED PEOPLE IN MASSIVE NUMBER SHOULD RESPOND TO ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGN

Dear Ravi

There are 3 basic (and ever increasing) levels

1) Bibilical (New Testament) - If enemy slaps you turn the other cheek for him to slap you again. (Luke 6:29) [This is to harden you and develop patience]

2) Indian system ; Swami Vivekananda : Be a karmayogi ignore all the filth and mess around you and get on with your own job.

3) Bibilical (Old Testament) : An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. In India we say "sau ka sava sau".

India didn't get Independence because of non-cooperation or white topi monkey brigades. We got "freedom" because we showed that 1 British life was equal to 10 Indian ones, and our battle hardened forces which defended the Empire had come home to find their wives and families had been abandoned and left to fend for themselves.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Ravi George <ravi@paradigm.in> wrote:
Mr. Gaur,

You have endorsed what Ghandiji himself said. In his commentary on Baghavad Gita Ch. 3 Vs 33 he said, "We can offer Satyagraha only against a person who has some love in his heart. We can control another only if there is mutual love between us. Where there is no such love, the only course for us is noncooperation with the other party".

How can we follow the course of "noncooperation", here?.

Ravi George


On 14-Feb-2013, at 12:24 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

14/2/13
 
Dear sir,
 
Passive resistance like Gandhi,s non-coop. movement succeded because brishers respected the rule of law.
today,s rulers have no such respect.
After Gandhiji, there have been peaceful movements of Vinoba Bhave, Jaiprapash Narain and recently by Anna Hazare. Where have these led us-improvement or deterioration?
You are talking about corruption we face in our day today life. It is not political corruption but corruption at lower level of bearocracy. The biggest corruption is political and higher level of bearocracy involving billions of Rs.as we see from scams tumbling out one after the other without any repite during the last 5 years.
Gaur
 

Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:09:08 +0530
From: thakursinghk@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] EDUCATED PEOPLE IN MASSIVE NUMBER SHOULD RESPOND TO ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGN

I endorse your views strongly.

Col Thakur singh

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
                                             EDUCATED PEOPLE  IN  MASSIVE  NUMBER  SHOULD  RESPOND
                                                                             TO ANTI CORRUPTION CAMPAIGN
India today faces  challenging problems on multiple fronts.  However,  the basics of the country are still strong , as evident from the national disgust  against the forces of corruption.
The problem is  that  the country's administration is  largely under the control of the corrupt people who can be described as commission agents.  
 Strong   and vocal public opinion  and passive resistance  (such as Gandhiji's non cooperation movement)  can  alone challenge  the corrupt elements, who now constitute the largest segment of the politicians in all political parties.
The patriotic men and women  should make the anti corruption sentiments as the central  theme  in any activity  and in any discussion  in  any forum  and constantly  send communication  opposing the corrupt  persons in government and in political parties at every  opportunity. They  should  not  become part of the corrupt system  under any circumstances  and refuse to pay bribe  and in the process whatever the sacrifices that are needed should be made willingly.
The biggest corruption is taking place amongst the people  in the middle and upper income group who are supposed to be educated  and well  informed.  The poor people who are forced to pay bribes  are helpless and they are too weak to resist.  But, this is not so in the case of those  belonging to middle and upper income group.  Certainly, they can afford to resist in their own way and when they do not do so , they should be held responsible for  the climate of corruption that is now sweeping the nation.
The people in the middle and upper income group  should come forward and resist at their own level , which need not mean demonstration or violence. Simple refusal to  heed to the demand for bribe by large number of concerned  and educated people will work wonders  in defeating the  corrupt forces.
While other forms of anti corruption movement such as moving the judiciary , using  RTI  etc. should continue , the individual resistance will enhance the quality of the movement to the highest  standards  and  infuse  vigour and  purpose.
Let all of us  decide that  the message of anti corruption should spread everywhere by passive resistance at individual level  and let it culminate in 2014 elections for good. Such strong campaign will  encourage  honest people to contest in the elections  and give an opportunity  to bring the anti corruption issue as the focus of 2014 election.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai
 

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