Thursday, December 6, 2012

Re: [IAC++] How AAP should go about the job

For the record, how many of the current WE are elected? This is with
direct regard to an earlier description of running this place
democratically, shaping policy based on inputs here, etc. Also if the
electing was done before the split, does it reflect the consensus now,
seeing as how the splitting factions had considerable following and
many may have joined because of that?

This is not aimed as a criticism, as I fully understand that the list
is going through a difficult time. I also understand that regardless
of the number of members in support or opposition of something,
organizational violations have offered. I base this completely on the
information provided on this forum.

I find it inexplicable that the confusion lasts for so long. Perhaps
the point has become to disagree for many.

With a view to restoring normalcy and enabling productive discussions
instead of repeated rehashes of the same explanations, would it be
possible to add a link to the footer of the list emails with a brief
explanation of the current situation and further repeats of the same
information leading to the same arguments be avoided?

It would be more useful to focus on the country rather than fixate on
some people - either in support or objection.

I am new here, but the emails are rapidly getting very predictable. If
the split results in dysfunction here, then it doesn't matter which
faction took over or who at all is "right" - the list is rendered
useless.

Vidyut

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Kris
>
> Thanks for a truly relevant query. I'm not sure if I can answer you
> precisely/fully at the present time, but I'll try my best.
>
> "we" is ultimately everyone who opts to participate (interact) in IAC's
> objective's through channels such as this mailing list.
>
> At the operational level, "WE" is the current band of volunteers keeping
> this IAC channel running (and shaping its policy based on member
> interaction) is accessible at
> http://indiaagainstcorruption.net.in/about-us
> (its a wiki so its dynamic - and the Hony tokens of "authority" are
> meaningless and conferred through arbitrary invitations issued by the
> "National Convenor" - who is me - for now)
>
> This list is moderated (much as WE privately wished it wasn't), WE do try
> and see that the signal/noise ratio is high. Well written posts on
> corruption usually do get through the moderator filters. Regular POV pushing
> of specific methods of curbing corruption are regulated (but not throttled
> absolutely) in circulation to the mailing list.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 5:39 AM, krisdev@gmail.com <krisdev@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sarabjit,
>>
>> Would you please clarify who all are included in the 'we' you are refering
>> to for the larger benefit of all those who are interacting in this group?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kris Dev.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sarbajit Roy
>> Sent: 06/12/2012 11:31:31 pm
>> Subject: Re: [IAC++] How AAP should go about the job
>>
>> Dear Col Jayakaran
>>
>> Mr Arvind Kejriwal is no longer part of the IAC movement. Neither are
>> Manish Sisodia, Prashanth Bhushan, Shanti Bhushan, Kiran Bedi, Anna
>> Hazare,
>> Justice Hegde, and so many others.
>>
>> Messages addressed to them on this group
>> will probably not reach them (officially).
>>
>> OTH, in the new IAC, I can assure you that we listen to everyone very
>> seriously, nobody is a small fry, and we try our best to give you a proper
>> reply (even if it is not always what you were expecting).
>>
>> The new IAC is very open, democratic and a flat structure geared towards
>> action.
>>
>> PS: the "abusive" phase this list is going through is a temporary one.
>>
>> Sarbajit (Roy)
>> National Convenor, IAC
>>
>
>
>
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