Sunday, July 15, 2012

[HumJanenge] Re: Attn. Mr. Girish Mittal

    Dear Sarbajit,
           Why do you think that if then CIC has passed an illegal order in past, it should continue in perpetuity? If you read the order of Wajahat carefully, even that has not been implemented    in  CIC??? Did you write about it?

            Shailesh Gandhi has passed a very reasoned order. We can agree to disagree on this.

            I don't understand the motivation you have in defending Akashdeep, who is an accused in the in the instant case and who writes to CIC to constitute a full bench, who meekly agrees. Does the JS/Law not know the 19(7) of RTI Act? Besides, what business he has in not following the order of legally appointed IC, irrespective of whether that order is 

            There is an order of SC, which has cautioned against arbitrary granting of ex-parte stay...But our HCs are very much doing the same..If you want, I can send you copy of the said judgement.
    Regards.
    Girish Mittal

    Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Jul 15 12:24AM +0530  

    Dear Girish
     
    http://www.moneylife.in/article/did-the-chief-information-commissioner-subvert-rti-provisions-to-protect-a-cic-officer/26903.html
     
    I would like to publicly discuss with you your father's RTI
    application to CIC, and your moneylife article in the background of
    this CIC decision in which I intervened.
     
    http://indiankanoon.org/doc/990634/
     
    I find that your father's RTI application is word for word a copy of
    Shekhar SIngh's RTI of 2008 which I intervened to get disclosure
    stopped in the NATIONAL INTEREST.
     
    Since the Chief Information Commissioner in 2010 has already decided
    that the information cannot be disclosed, who the F*** is a mere IC
    like SG to over-rule him in 2011 ?
     
    This is exactly the point of the Delhi High Court's latest order which
    shred's Shailesh Bhai's arbitrary and egoistic (and as per me corrupt)
    style of functioning. This is also why HONEST and COMPETENT
    (relatively) officers are forced to approach Courts against
    INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT Information Commissioners who are obliging
    their NCRPI seniors (who got him his job .. with pension).
     
    PS: You will note that Mr. Akash Deep was also present in the decision
    I have cited.
     
    Warmly
    Sarbajit

     

    C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> Jul 14 07:17PM -0700  

    Mr Sarbajit,
     
    What kind of JS (Law) is Mr Akash Deep Chakravarti, if he does not even know a WP number in the Delhi HC but still insists that the a reference be made in the CIC order ?
     
    Please see:
     
    http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_AD_C_2012_000936_M_85989.pdf 
     
     
    Points (ii), (v) and (vi) 
    Since the DoPT has obtained a stay order from the Delhi High Court on the said directive of the
    Commission, these points can only be taken up after the court pronounces  its  final decision.
     
    With such a JS (Law), no wonder ICs are passing illegal orders. LOL
     
    RTIwanted
     
     
    ________________________________
    From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
    To: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:24 AM
    Subject: [HumJanenge] For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

    Dear Girish
     
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    PS: You will note that Mr. Akash Deep was also present in the decision
    I have cited.
     
    Warmly
    Sarbajit

     

    sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> Jul 14 11:10PM -0700  

    I presume you are referring to some stay DoPT has obtained against
    CIC(AT)'s direction to appoint "Transparency Officers" .. carry out
    suo-moto section 4 etc...
    With 100's of cases involving CIC orders (the bulk of them passed by
    incompetent ICs like SG) how do you expect a Law Officer to have the
    case numbers at his finger tips.
     
    The solution is to give CIC officers IPADs so that such petty details
    can be incorporated in decisions delivered by an IC (and not those
    decisions delivered by a JS(Law))
     
    Sarbajit
     
     

     

    C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> Jul 15 06:14AM -0700  

    Mr Sarbajit,
     
    What a joke........
     
    You want to give iPads to those who cant differentiate between 
    a Computer Monitor and a windscreen ?
    Or between "windows" and a khidki ?
     
    Your most favoured IC says his eyes pain when he looks at a screen.
     
    PS: 5 (and a half) out of 8 ICs are computer unfriendly !
    (The half is because he is at least SMS friendly)
     
    And you still want them to bite the apple.
     
    He He He LOL !
     
    RTIwanted
     
     
    ________________________________
    From: sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
    To: "HumJanenge Forum People's Right to Information, RTI Act 2005" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 11:40 AM
    Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: For Attn: Mr. Girish Mittal

     
    The solution is to give CIC officers IPADs so that such petty details
    can be incorporated in decisions delivered by an IC (and not those
    decisions delivered by a JS(Law))
     
    Sarbajit

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