Sunday, November 14, 2010

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] Re: Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators

Hi Vishal

Your reply has clarified some (not all) issues.

1) At [RTI_India] we had detected and blocked durgesh nandan's gmail
account over 2 years back. Being a senior citizen he had been fooled
into providing a password to some Nigerian 419 scammers who sent fake
"send me cash" emails to many RTIers. We also had to block another
account v4veeresh which was spamming your HJ-YG posts (in advance of
posting to HJ-YG) to [RTI India].

2) Why don't you clarify the "ownership" / "moderator" issue at HJ-YG
once and for all ?

3) How does "humjanege.owner@gmail.com" have the ability to post
emails from "v_kudz@yahoo.com" to the HJ-GG list (as v_kudz@yahoo.com)
?

4) How do you respond to "PMK"s criticism about being constantly
spammed with news alerts from HJ-YG

Sarbajit

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Vishal Kudchadkar <v_kudz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr Roy,
> I do not check my v_kudz@yahoo.com email id on a regular basis. My posts to
> HJ-YG are made directly from the website.
> With regards to the point you've raised below, please see the detailed
> message header of the messages you are referring to on and before Oct24th in
> "my name".
> Message from discussion Urgent Notice: Impersonation of Humjanenge
> owners/moderators
> http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/msg/b85a68474a89eac1?dmode=source
> Message from discussion Court cannot frame rules for appointment of CIC
> chief: HC
> http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/msg/4322b8cf3aee1c25?dmode=source
> In the header search for "nandan" and you will be able to see that my email
> to HJ-YG was forwarded by nandan to humjanenge.owner and eventually to
> HJ-GG, all unbeknownst to me.
> =================================
>
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>
> =================================================================================
> Hope this clarifies the issue.
> Regards,
> Vishal
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 22:03:56
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] Re: Urgent Notice:
> Impersonation of Humjanenge owners/moderators
>
> Dear "PMK"
>
> I have 1 question in addition to what Sharmaji had posted
>
> Consider this thread at HumJanenge(Google)
> http://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/dcc132a8f06a58e0
>
> Vishal Kudchadkar makes 2 posts to this group (ie. googlegroup) on Oct 24
> from his email ID "v_kudz@yahoo.com" claiming that he has nothing to do with
> this group. This fact is immediately noticed and commented upon by
> Krishnaraj Rao. Vishal does not reply.
>
> Now if I click on Vishal's "profile" on the first 2 posts in this thread I
> find that Mr. Vishal Kudchadkar has been busy making 11 other posts to this
> group from "v_kudz@yahoo.com" between Oct 19 to Cct 24 2010.
>
> So my query is:
>
> What caused Vishal Kudchadkar to recant from his association with HJ-Google
> on Oct 24 2010 ?
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM, PMK1504 <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sharma ji
>>
>> You asked 2 questions (not 1) "Why / How", so I am replying in a second
>> post
>>
>> "Why" was answered in my previous post
>>
>> "How" is as follows
>>
>> a) As co-owner of HJ-YG I get emails from HJ-YG for all messages
>> posts / subscription requests which are pending moderation. This
>> includes the "Google Alerts" facility which immediately informs all
>> moderators/owners about breaking news as soon as Google indexes the
>> RTI news stories.
>>
>> b) Emails from my HJ-owner account are fowarded to HJ-GG and then
>> filtered / processed by a google python (.py) script before being
>> automatically posted to HJ-GG. If the poster (to HJ-YG) is also a
>> member of HJ-GG with full posting rights then it is posted in
>> name/email ID of member to HJ-GG. If poster at HJ-YG is either not a
>> member of HJ-GG or is moderated the message is posted in name of
>> member but with email ID <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> The process is
>> fully automatic and transparent. No fake / forged emails are being
>> posted in anyone else's name/ID from this group.
>>
>> c) The python script is programmed to leave original header if message
>> originates from either of the HJ groups.
>>
>> Hopes this clarifies everything
>>
>> PMK
>
>
>

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