Monday, May 29, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] Re Airtel demand for Aadhaar


On 30-May-2017 07:43, "Prodipto Roy" <prodipto.r@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you please give the date/no./content of the SC ruling on Aadhar not being mandatory and compulsory?

Airtel is now demanding customers provide it for continued service. All banks are displaying signs at each counter to register Aadhaar nos. Or face ac shutdown.

Someone needs to stop this ploy of gov't.to hand our data to big global corps.

J. Roy


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Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

 Who is the biggest culprit out of Politicians, bureaucrats and judiciary is a matter of opinion. One thing is sure - all are products of INDISCIPLINE steeped in all these organs as also in most of us as can be seen from the indiscipline in politics, in universities and colleges, while driving on the streets, while throwing garbage, while changing parties and making U-turn in ideologies and policies, while paying and accepting favours for postings of bureaucrats, while discriminating between people of different faiths, races and castes, while calmly witnessing murders in daylight without raising a finger.

R.N.Malhotra


From: neeraj singla <nsingla@hotmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

Yes, Indian Judiciary is the biggest culprit. They want to remove immunity to a soldier even in face of violent enemy but will not surrender their own immunity, even sitting in AC confines of big cities.

Why practicing Lawyers be selected to higher Judiciary. It is like selecting Arms Dealers as the Army Generals

Cdr Neeraj Singla veteran
9818022627


On 28-May-2017 9:39 pm, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir

I, as one of the moderators, would be very interested in knowing which parts of my impugned message you found scandalous, improbable etc. and why ?

I repeat and reiterate my opinion that the present day higher judiciary along with their system, of "officers of the court" (ie. advocates) is probably the most corrupt institution of India and the reason India is in such a mess today. They are answerable to nobody, they are self appointing and self-serving, utterly resistant to transparency, essentially a law unto themselves and the fees being paid today to the so-called designated senior advocates are a public scandal (eg. alleged Rs. 3.2 crore legal bill for Ram Jethmalani to defend Arvind Kejriwal) leading us in civil society to apprehend that perhaps portions of these scandalous fees find its way back to the judges they appear before so thyat litigation piles up as court dates (taarikh pe taarikh pe taarikh) are given at the drop of a hat

Actually, I recall in one of our RTIs filed to the Delhi High Court a few years back in 2013 I came across an instance of a sitting judge "bribing" another sitting judge, and after 2 hotly contested appeals hearings the Delhi High Court RTI Appellate officer eventually gave me a certified copy of the document in question (the kuccha copy already being with me) whereupon I was able to get the receipient judge transferred out (but not dismissed because the procedure is too cumbersome and impossible).

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:43 PM, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
 I am surprised that moderators permit such scandalous, unverified, improbable and imaginary accusations to be circulated amongst people of IAC#RG. Many of the writers seem to have their own dreams that they pen down the next day for circulation.

R.N.Malhotra


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net >
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

Dear Shri Gaur

All these 3 parties - BJP, AAP and Congress are corrupt. So it makes no difference who is in which party.

Actually, The real cause of India's corruption  is its corrupt higher judiciary and court system where the corruptors and corruptees find easy relief and refuge.

It is now time for citizens to demand their rights and governance and establish who is working (or not working) for them.

Kejriwal never had any respect for Hazare which was only for the TV cameras. Plus Anna Hazare was (and still is) an actor for hire who will say and do anything for a fee.

Incidentally, Kejriwal was not interested in politics till April 2012. All he wanted was to get the World Bank dictated Lokpal Bill (Ombudsman Act) implemented for which he was being handsomely paid in crores by World Bank, CIA and through some George Soros linked front organisations.

Sarbajit

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
19/5/17 
If AK expels all from Congress and BJP what will be left with AAP? May be some with left idology as in Punjab or Educated but unemployed/unemployables with aspirations to be leaders or from builders lobby to cover up their tracks. But none of them with any experience of governance and yesmen for AK.
Whatever your view is of Anna Hazare, the fact remains that AK had accepted him as his Guru and acquired the public face through that Aandolan. What was AK,s political/public persona till then?
J,K, Gaur
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:19 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP
 
While the well known corruption within Aam Aadmi Party is slowly emerging, you are overlooking the far larger corruption in the BJP.

When will we have a similar post/s about Narendra Modi, Nitin Gadkari, Venkiah Naidu, Piyush Goyal etc

You must look at this in the larger context of BJP and Congress being old allies in corruption..





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Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

 Issue raised by me has been sidestepped. Please read again the sentences in the mail of 20th May converted to bold letters in coloured font. Forum is being misused by using such unwarranted and unjustified language.

R.N.Malhotra


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

Sir

I, as one of the moderators, would be very interested in knowing which parts of my impugned message you found scandalous, improbable etc. and why ?

I repeat and reiterate my opinion that the present day higher judiciary along with their system, of "officers of the court" (ie. advocates) is probably the most corrupt institution of India and the reason India is in such a mess today. They are answerable to nobody, they are self appointing and self-serving, utterly resistant to transparency, essentially a law unto themselves and the fees being paid today to the so-called designated senior advocates are a public scandal (eg. alleged Rs. 3.2 crore legal bill for Ram Jethmalani to defend Arvind Kejriwal) leading us in civil society to apprehend that perhaps portions of these scandalous fees find its way back to the judges they appear before so thyat litigation piles up as court dates (taarikh pe taarikh pe taarikh) are given at the drop of a hat

Actually, I recall in one of our RTIs filed to the Delhi High Court a few years back in 2013 I came across an instance of a sitting judge "bribing" another sitting judge, and after 2 hotly contested appeals hearings the Delhi High Court RTI Appellate officer eventually gave me a certified copy of the document in question (the kuccha copy already being with me) whereupon I was able to get the receipient judge transferred out (but not dismissed because the procedure is too cumbersome and impossible).

On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:43 PM, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
 I am surprised that moderators permit such scandalous, unverified, improbable and imaginary accusations to be circulated amongst people of IAC#RG. Many of the writers seem to have their own dreams that they pen down the next day for circulation.

R.N.Malhotra


From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net >
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP

Dear Shri Gaur

All these 3 parties - BJP, AAP and Congress are corrupt. So it makes no difference who is in which party.

Actually, The real cause of India's corruption  is its corrupt higher judiciary and court system where the corruptors and corruptees find easy relief and refuge.

It is now time for citizens to demand their rights and governance and establish who is working (or not working) for them.

Kejriwal never had any respect for Hazare which was only for the TV cameras. Plus Anna Hazare was (and still is) an actor for hire who will say and do anything for a fee.

Incidentally, Kejriwal was not interested in politics till April 2012. All he wanted was to get the World Bank dictated Lokpal Bill (Ombudsman Act) implemented for which he was being handsomely paid in crores by World Bank, CIA and through some George Soros linked front organisations.

Sarbajit

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
19/5/17 
If AK expels all from Congress and BJP what will be left with AAP? May be some with left idology as in Punjab or Educated but unemployed/unemployables with aspirations to be leaders or from builders lobby to cover up their tracks. But none of them with any experience of governance and yesmen for AK.
Whatever your view is of Anna Hazare, the fact remains that AK had accepted him as his Guru and acquired the public face through that Aandolan. What was AK,s political/public persona till then?
J,K, Gaur
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Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:19 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] "A-team" of Congress and "B-team" of BJP
 
While the well known corruption within Aam Aadmi Party is slowly emerging, you are overlooking the far larger corruption in the BJP.

When will we have a similar post/s about Narendra Modi, Nitin Gadkari, Venkiah Naidu, Piyush Goyal etc

You must look at this in the larger context of BJP and Congress being old allies in corruption..


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Re: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"

It is impossible for me to "leave" a force in which I had the honour
of serving when it was still a professional army (barely) with
educated offiers. Nowadays though it is the jumped up jawans like
Major Gogoi who will do anything to please their RSS masters for cheap
publicity.

The sense of the argument that I get here is that the end justifies
the means, no matter how dishonorable those means may be.

I am unable to share certain details of our COAS's service in Congo as
part of the UN deplyments there in 2008, but what happened there under
his command was certainly far worse and dishonourable than what Gogoi
did. Since Gen. Rawat is well known for complaining and cooking up
excuses for his non-performance we can only hope that the security
situation in J&K and N-E does not deteriorate further during his
tenure.

On 5/29/17, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 28/5/17
>
>
> Please leave the army alone and don,t try to fish in troubled water. Some of
> photos circulated on social media showing Indian soldiers being chased,
> beaten and brutally assaulted by the crowd of stone pelters should put any
> self respecting Indian to shame.
>
> I did not see any post from you when two indian soldiers were abducted by
> Pakistani Army and beheaded.
>
> Earlier S. Roy had circulated the interview of Arun Shourie. If you consider
> his views as sensible please read his book where he has extensively dealt
> with question of Kashmir, where we have erred and what needs to be done.
>
> JKGaur
> ________________________________
> From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
> <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net> on behalf of Rajinder Dalvi
> <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:33 AM
> To: indiaresists
> Subject: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"
>
> A Kashmiri goes to vote in troubled times; braving the scorn of his
> fellowmen (who mostly want to secede from India), and the response of
> the Indian Army's officer is to tie him up, and drive him around for 5
> hours on the bonnet of a jeep. Then the COAS commends his junior for
> this blatant assault on democracy while the CoI is underway.
>
> If Farooq Ahmed Dar is indeed a "terrorist" and/or "ringleader" (both
> words being included as Unparliamentary ones) then Army should either
> arrest Dar, or summon him as a witness in the court of inquiry against
> Gogoi, or else eliminate him in a staged encounter as is usually done
> in J&K (eg. Pathrabal) and then conduct a proforma CoI/CM.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"

There will be no referendum to be held.
Kashmir is an integral part of india and will always be no citizen is above the territorial sovereignty of the nation no matter just how many people die but we must maintain the territorial sovereignty of the country.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"

Dear All,

Such  characters like Mr Prodipto are frog in the well and do not know what they are talking about.

Shame on such people who question brace Army personnel.

Nation feels sorry for such people.

Maj SR Singh, Retd
On Mon, 29 May 2017 at 8:30 PM, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Dalvi
What alternate action are you suggesting that Mag Gogoi should have carried out.
Instead of condemning come out with a better and effective action plan.
Suggest volunteer to face stone peters and try negotiating .
I as an ex serviceman am really proud of out of the box initiative of the Major.
May his tribe multiply.

Sqn ldr  sn datt
IAF retd




On 29 May 2017 12:41 am, "Rajinder Dalvi" <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com> wrote:
A Kashmiri goes to vote in troubled times; braving the scorn of his
fellowmen (who mostly want to secede from India), and the response of
the Indian Army's officer is to tie him up, and drive him around for 5
hours on the bonnet of a jeep. Then the COAS commends his junior for
this blatant assault on democracy while the CoI is underway.

If Farooq Ahmed Dar is indeed a "terrorist" and/or "ringleader" (both
words being included as Unparliamentary ones) then Army should either
arrest Dar, or summon him as a witness in the court of inquiry against
Gogoi, or else eliminate him in a staged encounter as is usually done
in J&K (eg. Pathrabal) and then conduct a proforma CoI/CM.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Dismiss this stupid COAS "Rawat"

I second Mr.S.N.Datt.
Some,knowing it was commendable,refuse to concede human rights of victims,army men,peaceful citizens and everyone EXCEPT TERRORISTS MILITANTS.
When they fight against Gaddafi,Assad,Afghan King,...they are rebels with a cause.,with human rights.
When they fight /hurt USA ,UK,France ,Germany ,they are terrorists.
When they fight against India,they are jihadist warranting heaven on earth,and,hereafter
Jannat with Huurs ,eternal paradise
J.K.Chaudhry

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On May 29, 2017, at 6:39 PM, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Dalvi
What alternate action are you suggesting that Mag Gogoi should have carried out.
Instead of condemning come out with a better and effective action plan.
Suggest volunteer to face stone peters and try negotiating .
I as an ex serviceman am really proud of out of the box initiative of the Major.
May his tribe multiply.

Sqn ldr  sn datt
IAF retd




On 29 May 2017 12:41 am, "Rajinder Dalvi" <rajinder.dalvi@gmail.com> wrote:
A Kashmiri goes to vote in troubled times; braving the scorn of his
fellowmen (who mostly want to secede from India), and the response of
the Indian Army's officer is to tie him up, and drive him around for 5
hours on the bonnet of a jeep. Then the COAS commends his junior for
this blatant assault on democracy while the CoI is underway.

If Farooq Ahmed Dar is indeed a "terrorist" and/or "ringleader" (both
words being included as Unparliamentary ones) then Army should either
arrest Dar, or summon him as a witness in the court of inquiry against
Gogoi, or else eliminate him in a staged encounter as is usually done
in J&K (eg. Pathrabal) and then conduct a proforma CoI/CM.

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