Sunday, March 13, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads Must Roll: Use of Army for Sri Sri’s Event

Less spoken less known , In recent past Army men have even been used or rather misused for spreading mats for Yoga Day in Delhi. Some one requisitioned, some approved the request and some one provided. It is all a question of misusing the Army to meet the aspirations of few Neeta's ans selfish Commanders who are ready to bend .  .

   














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On 13 March 2016 at 11:59, Gopinathan Nair <colgokulan@gmail.com> wrote:
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Dear Zubin,
                   Once our Army was used for AICC sammelan. Sad indeed we have weak commanders who doesn't go by the book.We have many times given water tanks for events like these. Attukal pongala normally gets this service from Army. Regards Uncle.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:
It appears that this has happened under the orders of the RM , may be with the approval of the PM. 

We have built such a system after independence where netas  have the last word implemented promptly by  the bureaucrats , who have been looking for such opportunities  to keep the army under their thumb.  .

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Heads Must Roll: Angry Ex-Col on Use of Army for Sri Sri's Event

http://www.thequint.com/blogs/2016/03/09/heads-must-roll-angry-ex-colonel-on-use-of-army-for-sri-sris-art-of-living-world-culture-festival-2016-event

Col Subin Balakrishnan (Retd)

(Col Subin Balakrishnan, @beesubin on Twitter, is an ex-Special Forces
officer from the Indian Army with over two decades of experience in
counter-terrorism operations in multiple operational theaters across
the country.)

I am terribly saddened and immensely angered to read that the Indian
Army I served with such fierce pride has been pushed to building
bridges for a culture festival, which is clearly not a state event!

It gets worse when one factors in that these bridges are operational
assets that are meant to be deployed by specialist combat troops in
war.

I'm desperately hoping this news report is false. If it is not, the
General Officer in command who authorised this (quite possibly under
duress) must be held personally liable for bringing disrepute to the
Indian Army.

The reluctance, or worse, the inability to stand up and say NO to what
is clearly an inappropriate request (or order) must be equated with
cowardice as per Army law, and appropriately dealt with. This nation
looks up to our men and women in uniform. We CANNOT let down trust by
bringing disrepute to the very hard earned respect that our countrymen
and women hold for that uniform.

Our men and women in uniform are known for their straight spine. Let
us keep it that way, please.

Once again, if indeed this news report is true, Heads MUST roll !!!

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Re: [IAC#RG] Heads Must Roll: Use of Army for Sri Sri’s Event

I should think that this is a bad precedent in a secular country,or for that matter in any country

M.Velu

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What a fall for some-one who claimed to be the source of
spiritual succour, strength and enlightenment for millions!
Hereafter Sri Sri Ravikshankar should not claimed to  be 
a Guru.His spirituality stands exposed as holllow and sheer
hypocrisy.
e.x.joseph

On 11 March 2016 at 22:56, Girish Raturi <raturigirish@gmail.com> wrote:
This is the reply for democratic jokers who believe in slogan and blindly faith with some imperious politician and gluttony god man.

On 10 March 2016 at 19:06, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:
It appears that this has happened under the orders of the RM , may be with the approval of the PM. 

We have built such a system after independence where netas  have the last word implemented promptly by  the bureaucrats , who have been looking for such opportunities  to keep the army under their thumb.  .

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Heads Must Roll: Angry Ex-Col on Use of Army for Sri Sri's Event

http://www.thequint.com/blogs/2016/03/09/heads-must-roll-angry-ex-colonel-on-use-of-army-for-sri-sris-art-of-living-world-culture-festival-2016-event

Col Subin Balakrishnan (Retd)

(Col Subin Balakrishnan, @beesubin on Twitter, is an ex-Special Forces
officer from the Indian Army with over two decades of experience in
counter-terrorism operations in multiple operational theaters across
the country.)

I am terribly saddened and immensely angered to read that the Indian
Army I served with such fierce pride has been pushed to building
bridges for a culture festival, which is clearly not a state event!

It gets worse when one factors in that these bridges are operational
assets that are meant to be deployed by specialist combat troops in
war.

I'm desperately hoping this news report is false. If it is not, the
General Officer in command who authorised this (quite possibly under
duress) must be held personally liable for bringing disrepute to the
Indian Army.

The reluctance, or worse, the inability to stand up and say NO to what
is clearly an inappropriate request (or order) must be equated with
cowardice as per Army law, and appropriately dealt with. This nation
looks up to our men and women in uniform. We CANNOT let down trust by
bringing disrepute to the very hard earned respect that our countrymen
and women hold for that uniform.

Our men and women in uniform are known for their straight spine. Let
us keep it that way, please.

Once again, if indeed this news report is true, Heads MUST roll !!!

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Re: [IAC#RG] Sorry state of media in India

Most of media today are under  the control of politicians, business houses.and religious groups . For example, Ambani led Reliance Group have several media under it's control and still want to expand the hold. So are other media in control of other business houses such as Hinduja, DMK linked Maran brothers etc. Therefore, such media can only reflect the views and priorities of the owners and cannot be honest and objective.

It is easily possible to have paid news and views inserted in the media. Most of the top journalists these days have lavish life style and have distanced themselves from the deprived and down trodden people. Gone are the days when media people used to travel in public transports to know the problems of the weaker section. . 

 Today's media in India are one more curse on the helpless citizens, who look forward to progressive and knowledgeable  analysis of scenario , that can enable the nation to chalk out it's action plans by a process of consensus and forge ahead.


In such circumstances, it is not even worth discussing about the role of media

N.S.Venkataraman
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2016 at 9:58 AM, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
 Agitation is the right of people if they feel they have been wronged. Damaging property worth 20,000 crores is not. Even facilitating this kind of damage is not the right of people.

R.N.Malhotra
Former Chairman Railway Board


From: Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com>
To: ravindra malhotra <rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:56 PM

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Sorry state of media in India

Malhotra sahab,

Without sitting on roads, govts do not listen. Its an established fact. There have been 20 years of peaceful efforts- have you noticed that ? Once 2 lakh people gathered at Ram Lila Maidan, you would not even be knowing it ! Because, just like the Govt, the urban community is tuned to not be bothered about peaceful efforts.
If they sit on roadside, they would have been ignored similarly as thousands of homeless you see on streets. 

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." 
― John F. Kennedy

India is yet to go through a class war, as other western countries have gone through. Thats why development in those countries is equitable. The Jat, patels, or the Naxals, or the Maoist agitation merely reflects that the class war is starting.
India merely got political independence in 1947,  the power was transferred from outside exploiters to inside exploiters. Most of us in urban society are the inside exploiters. Even the urban jats, patels, or the STs are part of the inside  exploiters, as these are siding with status quo that is highly exploitative. 



Jats are not enjoying- 30 have died, thousands in prison- but does it matter why they are suffering so much. Most people are just enjoying the plight of jats. And more are going to die, because the establishment led by RSS is a capitalist class that can only survive if  it divides the working rural class. it is  its startegy.












Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 11:12 PM, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
 Statement that agitation was peaceful for 4 days is not correct. Violence had started first day itself. Who blocked roads by trucks and tractors etc? The Police? When majority of people on the streets were those who were agitating, why did they not make effort to stop the violence and damage to property? During independence movement, when agitation resulted in violence Mahatma Gandhi decided to suspend the agitation. Leaders of the agitating community should have done the same if they were not involved.

R.N.Malhotra



From: Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Sorry state of media in India

Dear Dua sahab,

You have doubted who the looters were. Thats correct. The looted goods are found from houses of police officials- one is PSO of Munish Grover, MLA of Rohtak. Goods are found in house of another inspector as it has come in press..  So, you can imagine, if police is involved in looting, what the agitators can do.

Lets see how it started. While agitation was going peacefully for 4 days, on 5th night police, led by SP rank officer,  enters a hostel in Rohtak and selectively beats up jat students. The police enters four times over a night and do this.  The parents came- same treatment- I do not know how would people react when state itself do violence on innocents- but what happened after that is very much feasible.
I have videos where the quota agitators have caught criminals that were looting trucks. 

Media is putting a lot of onus on jats inspite of most evidence of violence, arson, looting coming from those who had no stake in the agitation. Khattar may not be leading this state sponsored violence but he was keeping his eyes shut. Rashme Sehgal, a senior reporter,  has done a unbiased coverage. See the link below: 

How the story unfolded 25 years back should be of interest to all. In 1991, yadavs were dominating the politics with Mulayam Singh and Lalu joining hands with VP Singh. The National Commission for backward classes (NCBC) with a strategy to oust jats from the OBC list, selectively  visited  Patiala and Bharatpur and stated that this community belongs to ruling class.  The lay jat working in fields of Haryana, West UP, Delhi were ignored. Yadavs managed to keep 27% quota to themselves. Since then its Yadavs who have enjoying this entire 27% of OBC quota, with some more classes who can barely compete with Yadavs. The recent SC petiton to strike down the quota to jats was by a Yadav.  It was not a stay  to say that jats do not deserve to be in OBC, but on basis of a procedural flaw by previous Congress Govt.

Since these 25 years Jats have been struggling peacefully to get the quota for them. Once 2 lakh people assembled at Ram Lila Maidan- but all efforts ignored. 
Jats are a working class community and not really smart in duniyadari. Just see how many you may find in offices at post beyond chaprasis Yet,the clamor for quota was not so much. The main reason behind this agitation has less to do with quota, but with BJP's game plan to play one caste against other. BJP preferred to fight state election on basis of jats vs non-jats. Thats a progress, a step ahead  from Hindu- Muslim divisive politics the BJP is accustomed to. Then, Mr Modi let loose a Mr. Raj Kumar Saini, MP to give inflammatory speeches against jats for through out the year. It barely ever happened in India that caste based speeches are given like this. But, BJP has started this too, and have created new divisons in society.

Jats are also wondering why the BJP govt wants to reserve entire  OBC quota  for Yadavs. After all, this community is  voting enbloc SP in UP, and RJD in Bihar. Well, its for BJP to play the game. Jats are now shifting to ally with Muslims and Dalits, its almost declared. Though jats were never supporters of RSS, they would now hound out the RSS from villages.

In nutshell, its BJP all the way doing the damage. I had never believed earlier about BJP's dirty politics, but can sense it entirely now. And, it is Mr Modi who leads the pack. Its part of his strategies to play castes one against the other that he adopted in Gujrat, Maharastra, and now Haryana.

Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:53 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Though one agrees that the Nehruvian Utopia feeling is good, but surely it belongs to the '70s or latest the '80s.
The Press was pti or dd/ driven during that time.
Lack of awareness and living in our family groups made us feel good, no doubt.
Okay so we believe Shri Diwan ji as we hold him in high respect.
The question now in all our minds is why did the so called quota' agitationists', for want of a better word..Why they did not STOP the looters.
That is if looters were not the same as the agitationists.
Now for jnu.Anybody who has studied in jnu knows it is a Red driven univ.
Nothing wrong with that but having listened LIVE to one Kanahiya ji yesterday i have my doubts to the level of studies conducted in jnu.
With Respect to All.
On 3 Mar 2016 21:57, "Rakesh Manchanda" <rakeshmanchanda65@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Irreversible damage in absence of forensics report of videos as feared by Diwan Singh ji is the bottom line.

After Patel Reservation demand this Jat Reservation death toll is of 30 lives with more then 30,000 crore of property is turned into ash. Goondas belonging to no community enjoy the free loot.

When we follow the herd unwillingly we take a weak position of comfort with silence.

This is happening again and again as a scripted soap serial and need to be stopped.

People are driven hard by a herd mentality charged up by false videos announcing `Pakistan Zindabad`.

For `stand alone` there is no choice either to remain silent supporters for self survival or stand with them in the mob of goondas or prmote the kill in the social media as no one wants to be with Pakistan even in dreams.

We need to collectively protect this old culture of peace and trust with new outlook otherwise the politicians shall re-use this serial to divert public attention and grab more profit for their masters.

Regards,

Rakesh Manchanda.

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Diwan Singh <diwans2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Tribune planted a false story on gangrape, and for 5 days media ran back to back coverage on gangrape by jats during agitation. 
Just wonder- no victim, no evidence, no FIR- but media is going gangbang after a single community.
Though there is no principle of collective punishment in our constitution- the people of this community were continually shamed for what they never did. 

Just like the government divide the society by playing one community against another, media too do it skillfully by mass character assassination.

Diwan Singh

Member, Dwarka Water Bodies Committee
Yamuna Satyagraha
Ridge Bachao Andolan
Campaign for Preservation of Commons

On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Dinesh Verma <dcverma06@gmail.com> wrote:
 channels pickup a issue for discussion immediately,without fact
finding,to grab & raise the TRP.The expressions & words of the anchor
reflects the view of the
T V channel.Viewers sometimes feel aghast after viewing,the other day,
another channel on the issue.The TRP raising competition be
discouraged.
D.C.Verma
Former Judge &
Vice-Chairman (Retd)
Central Administrative Tribunal

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Hariharan Pillai <hariateco@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
> Mr. Purobi Goshi is right, please treat it is a serious matter to the
> country.It is ashamed to watch the T.V chaneels, News papers now a days,
> really wasting time and money for such. There should be some regulatory body
> to monirtor.
>
> Regards
>
> Hari
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Purobi Ghosh Mohan <cgsi09@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> I read and watch with unease the state of media in our country today.
>>
>> Most of those from the fraternity opine, don't report, with scant research
>> to back them up. They are driven by a herd mentality.
>>
>> Senior journalists write/speak on issues at random and keep silent on many
>> other critical stories which they should be writing/speaking on. Some are
>> heavily dictated by their publication/channel leanings or their private
>> interests.
>>
>> The media creates hype at will, distorts stories and gives a handle to
>> those with vested interests. The partisan news and views influence
>> politicians, judiciary and legislating bodies.
>>
>> I understand that the News Broadcasting Standards Authority (NBSA) is a
>> private body and not a legal entity. The Press Club of India (PCI) is a
>> legal body and but yet to widen scope. The new Press Registration and Books
>> (PRB) Act, also, is yet to be passed. It still runs on the 1867 Act.
>>
>> Such a situation poses immense threat to the nation and to the populace.
>>
>> It is necessary to raise our voices against this situation and bring the
>> authenticity of news to an even keel. Something needs to be done.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Purobi Ghosh Mohan
>>
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Saturday, March 12, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Heads Must Roll: Use of Army for Sri Sri’s Event

Dear Zubin,
                   Once our Army was used for AICC sammelan. Sad indeed we have weak commanders who doesn't go by the book.We have many times given water tanks for events like these. Attukal pongala normally gets this service from Army. Regards Uncle.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Jagjit Ahuja <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com> wrote:
It appears that this has happened under the orders of the RM , may be with the approval of the PM. 

We have built such a system after independence where netas  have the last word implemented promptly by  the bureaucrats , who have been looking for such opportunities  to keep the army under their thumb.  .

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Heads Must Roll: Angry Ex-Col on Use of Army for Sri Sri's Event

http://www.thequint.com/blogs/2016/03/09/heads-must-roll-angry-ex-colonel-on-use-of-army-for-sri-sris-art-of-living-world-culture-festival-2016-event

Col Subin Balakrishnan (Retd)

(Col Subin Balakrishnan, @beesubin on Twitter, is an ex-Special Forces
officer from the Indian Army with over two decades of experience in
counter-terrorism operations in multiple operational theaters across
the country.)

I am terribly saddened and immensely angered to read that the Indian
Army I served with such fierce pride has been pushed to building
bridges for a culture festival, which is clearly not a state event!

It gets worse when one factors in that these bridges are operational
assets that are meant to be deployed by specialist combat troops in
war.

I'm desperately hoping this news report is false. If it is not, the
General Officer in command who authorised this (quite possibly under
duress) must be held personally liable for bringing disrepute to the
Indian Army.

The reluctance, or worse, the inability to stand up and say NO to what
is clearly an inappropriate request (or order) must be equated with
cowardice as per Army law, and appropriately dealt with. This nation
looks up to our men and women in uniform. We CANNOT let down trust by
bringing disrepute to the very hard earned respect that our countrymen
and women hold for that uniform.

Our men and women in uniform are known for their straight spine. Let
us keep it that way, please.

Once again, if indeed this news report is true, Heads MUST roll !!!

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