Tuesday, October 7, 2014

[IAC#RG] Tamil Nadu incidents wake up call for anti corruption movement

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India Against Corruption

The present conditions in Tamil Nadu , where mass protests have been organised against the conviction for Jayalalitha is a pointer  for the shape of things to come.

Similar recent incident was the protest organised against the eviction notice to Ajit Singh from the government bunglow,  that he was occupying in New Delhi in an unauthorised manner.

Every political leader in the country appears to maintain an army of sycophants who are enabled to make money or get position  for themselves by the political power of the leader.  As a matter of fact,  both the political leader and the sycophants need each other to survive, loot  and prosper. When these sycophants protest against the conviction or action against  their political leader,  they  protest  only  to protect their own positions.

Very large segment of the country men are not part of the sycophant gang. But they lack courage to stand against the violent behaviour of these elements  and simply bow to their  demand to shut the shops or stay away from work. Media, sometimes partisan , sometimes scared  and most of the time sensational give huge publicity to such unwarranted protests and in the process make such protests look like genuine for a cause.

One only hopes that the judges will not allow themselves to be influenced or coerced by such motivated protesters and they will deal with the issues legally.

If conditions such as now in Tamil Nadu are allowed to prevail,  then it would be extremely difficult to punish any corrupt politician in India. Now, here is a wake up call for anti corruption movement in the country.

N.S. Venkataraman
Nandini Voice For The Deprived
Chennai

Monday, October 6, 2014

[HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] CIC's powers to review its own order

The SC and HC's have CONSTITUTIONALLY conferred powers of review.

The CIC as an ADMINISTRATIVE body has no such INHERENT power of review
except for correcting "errors apparent on face of the record".

On 10/6/14, Manoj Pai manojpai@yahoo.com [HumJanenge]
<HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in> wrote:
> If a judicial authority like the Hon Chennai High Court could review and
> recall its own orders of their recent judgment violating section 6(2) why
> not a quasi judicial authority like CIC. Check link
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> http://barandbench.com/content/212/madras-high-court-takes-suo-motu-review-rti-judgment-says#.VDIsiler8vs
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> How can one forget the case of how the Hon Supreme Court of India had
> reviewed and recalled its own judgment in the matter of Namit Sharma. Check
> link
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> http://barandbench.com/content/212/supreme-court-allows-namit-sharma-review-petition-rules-information-commissioners-need#.VDItK1er8vs
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> Now the question remains, were you heard before passing of the orders in
> your 25 odd second appeals? Can you establish the case of miscarriage of
> justice? Or are you just exploring the possibilities of reviewing the
> decisions in hope of reversing the same in your favor?
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> Best wishes
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> Manoj
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> On Mon, 10/6/14, 'Rakesh Agarwal' rakesh@nyayabhoomi.org [HumJanenge]
> <HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in> wrote:
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> Subject: [HumJanenge-YG] CIC's powers to review its own order
> To: HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in
> Cc: HumJanenge@yahoogroups.co.in, Praja-Vol@yahoogroups.com,
> odishasoochanaadhikarabhiyan@googlegroups.com, "'C J Karira'"
> <cjkarira@gmail.com>, sroy.mb@gmail.com
> Date: Monday, October 6, 2014, 10:28 AM
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> Hi Orders were passed on 25 second
> appeals filed me before the CIC in Delhi. I am not happy and
> I would like to take the matter to the next level. However,
> in view of the complexities involved and the time factor, I
> would prefer to file "review petitions" before the same
> IC rather than approaching the High Court. I will appreciate if someone
> could
> cite or attach any order of a superior court which clarifies
> whether the CIC has the power to review its own
> orders. RegardsRakesh
> Agarwal
> | Secretary | NYAYABHOOMIB-9 Vikram Nagar,
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Sunday, October 5, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Jenab Amjad Afridi Saheb,
i live in the same world as you live. Wherever anyone is held in jail w/o any trial, within a reasonable period of time, as per the Indian penal code, and the law does not get enforced,  it is unfair and unjust.

Human Rights are we must live by -- which applies to one and all -- regardless of religion, class, caste sex or political affiliation/s.
South Asian countries are known to be suffering from impinging on the rights of citizens. 
Who knows who, what carries what kind of weight in getting fair & honourable treatment is indeed a sordid tale of bias and discrimination.
(We were driven out of Lahore, way back when our country was cut and made independent. Tragically, communal biases & forces have not ended.)

One sympathises with those who are incarcerated, wrongly and unfairly. In all such cases the system and weak or biased carry-out of our laws is to be condemned.
Having said that, nothing will change. And it is beyond my power to be of any help or sustenance, sadly. i own my singular sense of helplessness.
The world we live in demands one stays away from getting embroiled in any controversies.
Truth and all that it stands for many a time is a far off dream, of sorts.
Peace.
dev chopra in gurgaon
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On 5 October 2014 12:17, Amjad Afridi <afridiamjad@hotmail.com> wrote:
Shriman Devinder Chopra Sir,

Which country and which world do you live in ? 
This is the story we hear every day with thousands languishing in our Jails without trial. Provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code and Instructions of the Hon'ble Supreme Court are thrown to the wind every hour of the day. 
Without sounding Communal let me also say this only gets worse when we look at the youth from the Minority Communities. The Police Atrocities and the weak Justice Delivery System only help in alienating the Minorities further.  
I fully endorse the mail written by POONAM AGGARWAL earlier in this forum. 

JAI HIND. 

Amjad Afridi

Sent from my iPhone

On 05-Oct-2014, at 9:53 am, Devinder Chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Respected Sri Sarbajit Roy Saheb ji,

Amazing information, you have shared, Sire! 
IF it is true that the lady has been incarcerated for 5 years, less or more,
and the case has barely begun, or not, then great injustice has been met.
We have always looked up to our judicial system, but, IF it be true, that, her
being held, is under false, or wrong pretenses then one feels cheated.
One has avoided going to Court (in a circumstance or two, personally) because 
we all are aware, that, matters/issues take anywhere between 2-5-7 years to
get sorted out! To be imprisoned the way this young lady has been is
indeed a blot that we, all Indians, suffer from today & ever more. 
The Constitution, we swear by has indeed been made a mockery of.... 
i have felt cheated and reduced in my feelings as a national of our land.
i have no leanings, right through my years, towards any political party, or
any religious 'ism' but have felt minimised, reduced and cheated as i have 
held our judicial system, in the upper echelons, with great respect.
Excuse my sharing such thoughts & feelings and have now realised why
organisations like IAC came into existence.....
Submitted with respect and a sense of great sympathy for the one hurt
the most-- who as & when released ought to get compensated.

devinder das chopra
9810338049
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On 4 October 2014 22:19, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Thakur

BJP under dynamic CM of MP is doing everything in its power to save
his Govt the embarrassment of having the poor lady die in a MP Govt
hospital.

Our Pavlovian barking dogs on this list may not know all the facts.

The Dewas Police has recently discovered startling new evidence that
murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi (who was in hiding after allegedly
murdering 2 Cong MPs) was a liquor kingpin and made sexual advances to
the innocent Sadhvi. This allegedly outraged her rakhi brothers who
were associated with Joshi in his businesses and they formed a
conspiracy in which the poor Sadhvi was also roped in.

The National Investigative Agency has taken this new information very
seriously and is approaching the court to get Sadhvi's name deleted as
an accused. It is widely expected that if any unfortunate event occurs
to Sadhvi post her release, attempts shall be made to see the senior
Congress leadership in MP shall suffer like Congress suffered in
Chattisgarh.




On 10/4/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Now that the government at the centre is the one who is committed not to
> appease the minorities. Now what is the problem in getting justice for
> Pragya Singh Thakur. Why is she allowed to languish in jail when she is
> innocent and needs justice. There got to be an answer for this. What is N
> moi doing to help her. and the same goes for Lt.Col. Prohit her
> co-accused.?? Devindeer
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: sanjay agrawal <sanjaynirmalagrawal@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe
>> thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
>>
>>
>>
>>this is for the appeasement of minority.
>>"bas ek hi ulloo kafee tha veerane gulistan karne ko
>>har shakh pe ulloo baitha tha anjaame gulista kya hota"
>>now this is the time for correction.
>>
>>
>>
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>>On Saturday, 4 October 2014 10:56 AM, Shaila S <shaila62@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>pls let me know how i can help pragya ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>>It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing
>>>> for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not
>>>> convicted for six years?
>>>>
>>>>I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.
>>>> It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her.  We should register our
>>>> protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach
>>>> out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.
>>>> It is a matter of shame.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Satya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>From: 'BaheUSA' via Hindu Association of the USA
>>>>> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Date:
>   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her
>   b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her
>
>   biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
>>>>>To:
>   "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com"
> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Subramanian  Swamy Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> Thakur  in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being
>>>>> born a Hindu in a  secular country like India.
>>>>>She's been  accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back.
>>>>> Proof ? Her  motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year
>>>>> and might as well  have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was
>>>>> recovered from the site leading  NIA to frame miss Pragya and led
>>>>> Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron  terror'. No one wants to hear
>>>>> the fact that CBI and Maharashtra  ATS investigations have revealed the
>>>>> hand of nine 'minority community' guys  (and three absconding) behind
>>>>> this crime with the motive of triggering riots  in the area.
>>>>>ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but
>   NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
>>>>>Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but  Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in  addition
>>>>> to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
>>>>>And here we are, the so called majority of  India..watching in silence
>>>>> like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some  miracle to  happen.
>>>>
>>>>>Human rights  anyone?
>>>>>
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RE: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

5/10/14
We discussed this issue a couple of years before. Since then news has been filtering from time to time that her health has further deteriorated and the Supreme Court has refused the bail plea. The other change is that Mr.Chidambaram who coined  the infamous 'Saffron terrorism  and later retraction that terrorism has no colour is not the Home Minister. Perhaps realising that CBI is not finding evidence against her strong enough, the case was entrusted NIA.Does it not show political bias or loss of faith in the investigating agencies
Regime change should have two implications-to take care of her health and expediting the legal process.
Her case is not one of the thousands languishing in jails for long time, Those unfortunate under trials are either too poor to arrange a proper bail,or engage a good lawyer or spend money to expedite the legal process. Hers is a high profile detention with political,religious and moral overtones.
linking it with terrorism and hence national security.
We have seen how terrorism has developed over the last 25 years and how the country has suffered. The cross border terrorism has been used by Pakistan as an insturment of State policy to inflict maximum damage on this country and weaken it economically and socially in addition to loss of innocent lives.
This terrorism  certainly has an object to destabilise India and a colour without a name..
Sadhvi's case is just to use it as a counterweight to the innumerable terroist attacks from across the border supported by home grown modules.. But there is no substance and evidence agaist hersofar.
Linking her with Joshi's murder or his alleged activities is in the realm of conjuctures.
In my opinion, she will suffer for some time but the worst for her is over. It certainly needs to be taken up by the civil society.Since Mr. Swamy has raised this issue gain we hope to see an early end to her plight of suffering.
Regds
JKGaur



 

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 22:28:40 +0530
From: poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Thousands are languishing in jail without any charge sheet and without any trail..why you sympathising only pragya ????
On Oct 4, 2014 9:29 AM, "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not convicted for six years?

I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.  It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
 
 

For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her. 
We should register our protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.  It is a matter of shame.

Regards,
Satya




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Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
She's been accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back. Proof ? Her motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year and might as well have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was recovered from the site leading NIA to frame miss Pragya and led Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron terror'.
No one wants to hear the fact that CBI and Maharashtra ATS investigations have revealed the hand of nine 'minority community' guys (and three absconding) behind this crime with the motive of triggering riots in the area.
ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but Sadhvi Pragya languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in addition to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
And here we are, the so called majority of India..watching in silence like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some miracle to happen.

Human rights anyone?


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Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Agreement 100%
Term " Law will take its own course ". Got bad reputation due to its use by Narsimhan Rao
Plus
Course which Indian law takes  !
J.K.Chaudhry

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On Oct 5, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Amarnath Wanchoo <anwanchoo@outlook.com> wrote:

Actually Dr. Chaudhry, Mr. Modi does not interfere in the law taking its own course. He has said so to Mr. Swamy in the Jayalalitha case as I learnt from a tweet of Swamy. So Pragya's case as well as that Colonel's (Purohit?) and NH cases shall also run their courses, like Vanjara's and his own cases ran.
 
Don't you think it is the fairest thing to do though many may not appreciate it?
 
Best and regards,

Amarnath Wanchoo

"A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car, but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad." ~ Theodore Roosevelt
 
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Any case that comes to your notice,
Do what your Conscience says.
Don't procrastinate till you cannot reform the world.........again by your own conscience ,OR,
Whatever is left of it.
J.K.Chaudhry

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On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Poonam Agarwal <poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com> wrote:

Thousands are languishing in jail without any charge sheet and without any trail..why you sympathising only pragya ????

On Oct 4, 2014 9:29 AM, "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not convicted for six years?

I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.  It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
 
 

For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her. 
We should register our protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.  It is a matter of shame.

Regards,
Satya



 
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Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
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Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
She's been accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back. Proof ? Her motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year and might as well have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was recovered from the site leading NIA to frame miss Pragya and led Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron terror'.
No one wants to hear the fact that CBI and Maharashtra ATS investigations have revealed the hand of nine 'minority community' guys (and three absconding) behind this crime with the motive of triggering riots in the area.
ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but Sadhvi Pragya languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in addition to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
And here we are, the so called majority of India..watching in silence like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some miracle to happen.

Human rights anyone?


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RE: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Do not forget that those who perpetuated the crime against Sadhvi Pragya, namely Hemant Karkare of STF and his colleague  died at the hands of Terrorists and the circumstances of their death suggest that some extra ordinary power gragged them to their death. I still recollect that on one Occassion Sadhvi Pragya on coming out of the Court looked towards the Sky in anguish as if calling upon the Pitambara Devi (Goddess of Justice to avenge her humiliation as the Karkare & company went to the extent of Showing Blue Films to her to break her down) after a few days Karkare and company met their maker. Modi if he does not set things right will surely follow suit. Such is the power of PITAMBARA DEVI whom Sadhvi Pragya invoked to avenge her.
Robby Sharma Kanpur.
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Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 22:28:40 +0530
From: poonam.agarwal88@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe this blot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Thousands are languishing in jail without any charge sheet and without any trail..why you sympathising only pragya ????
On Oct 4, 2014 9:29 AM, "Satya D" <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not convicted for six years?

I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.  It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
 
 

For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her. 
We should register our protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.  It is a matter of shame.

Regards,
Satya




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Date: Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
To: "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com" <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>





Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
She's been accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back. Proof ? Her motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year and might as well have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was recovered from the site leading NIA to frame miss Pragya and led Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron terror'.
No one wants to hear the fact that CBI and Maharashtra ATS investigations have revealed the hand of nine 'minority community' guys (and three absconding) behind this crime with the motive of triggering riots in the area.
ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but Sadhvi Pragya languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in addition to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
And here we are, the so called majority of India..watching in silence like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some miracle to happen.

Human rights anyone?


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Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman

Shriman Devinder Chopra Sir,

Which country and which world do you live in ? 
This is the story we hear every day with thousands languishing in our Jails without trial. Provisions of the Criminal Procedure Code and Instructions of the Hon'ble Supreme Court are thrown to the wind every hour of the day. 
Without sounding Communal let me also say this only gets worse when we look at the youth from the Minority Communities. The Police Atrocities and the weak Justice Delivery System only help in alienating the Minorities further.  
I fully endorse the mail written by POONAM AGGARWAL earlier in this forum. 

JAI HIND. 

Amjad Afridi

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On 05-Oct-2014, at 9:53 am, Devinder Chopra <ddchop47@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Respected Sri Sarbajit Roy Saheb ji,

Amazing information, you have shared, Sire! 
IF it is true that the lady has been incarcerated for 5 years, less or more,
and the case has barely begun, or not, then great injustice has been met.
We have always looked up to our judicial system, but, IF it be true, that, her
being held, is under false, or wrong pretenses then one feels cheated.
One has avoided going to Court (in a circumstance or two, personally) because 
we all are aware, that, matters/issues take anywhere between 2-5-7 years to
get sorted out! To be imprisoned the way this young lady has been is
indeed a blot that we, all Indians, suffer from today & ever more. 
The Constitution, we swear by has indeed been made a mockery of.... 
i have felt cheated and reduced in my feelings as a national of our land.
i have no leanings, right through my years, towards any political party, or
any religious 'ism' but have felt minimised, reduced and cheated as i have 
held our judicial system, in the upper echelons, with great respect.
Excuse my sharing such thoughts & feelings and have now realised why
organisations like IAC came into existence.....
Submitted with respect and a sense of great sympathy for the one hurt
the most-- who as & when released ought to get compensated.

devinder das chopra
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On 4 October 2014 22:19, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Thakur

BJP under dynamic CM of MP is doing everything in its power to save
his Govt the embarrassment of having the poor lady die in a MP Govt
hospital.

Our Pavlovian barking dogs on this list may not know all the facts.

The Dewas Police has recently discovered startling new evidence that
murdered RSS pracharak Sunil Joshi (who was in hiding after allegedly
murdering 2 Cong MPs) was a liquor kingpin and made sexual advances to
the innocent Sadhvi. This allegedly outraged her rakhi brothers who
were associated with Joshi in his businesses and they formed a
conspiracy in which the poor Sadhvi was also roped in.

The National Investigative Agency has taken this new information very
seriously and is approaching the court to get Sadhvi's name deleted as
an accused. It is widely expected that if any unfortunate event occurs
to Sadhvi post her release, attempts shall be made to see the senior
Congress leadership in MP shall suffer like Congress suffered in
Chattisgarh.




On 10/4/14, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
<devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> Now that the government at the centre is the one who is committed not to
> appease the minorities. Now what is the problem in getting justice for
> Pragya Singh Thakur. Why is she allowed to languish in jail when she is
> innocent and needs justice. There got to be an answer for this. What is N
> moi doing to help her. and the same goes for Lt.Col. Prohit her
> co-accused.?? Devindeer
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: sanjay agrawal <sanjaynirmalagrawal@yahoo.co.in>
>>To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>>Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 9:07 AM
>>Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Time to render justice to Sadhvi Pragya - let us wipe
>> thisblot of shame on what is done to a Sadhu and a woman
>>
>>
>>
>>this is for the appeasement of minority.
>>"bas ek hi ulloo kafee tha veerane gulistan karne ko
>>har shakh pe ulloo baitha tha anjaame gulista kya hota"
>>now this is the time for correction.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, 4 October 2014 10:56 AM, Shaila S <shaila62@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>pls let me know how i can help pragya ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Satya D <hitaya123@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>
>>>>It is time BJP Government render justice to Sadhvi Pragya.   Is standing
>>>> for Hinduism her sin? If she committed any crime why was she not
>>>> convicted for six years?
>>>>
>>>>I understand her health was so destroyed that she will never be normal.
>>>> It is a tragedy it is happening in India, not country like Saudi Arabia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For heaven sake, let us fight for justice to her.  We should register our
>>>> protest to Indian Government to stop this atrocity.   We need to reach
>>>> out to Sadhu Sant to raise voice and stop this on a Sadhu and a woman.
>>>> It is a matter of shame.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Satya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>Date:
>   Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM
>>>>>Subject: HinduAssociationUSA *** Today, on her
>   b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya Thakur in our thoughts as we wonder if her
>
>   biggest crime was being born a Hindu in a secular country like India.
>>>>>To:
>   "hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com"
> <hinduassociationusa@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Subramanian  Swamy Today, on her b'day, we've got Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> Thakur  in our thoughts as we wonder if her biggest crime was being
>>>>> born a Hindu in a  secular country like India.
>>>>>She's been  accused of orchestrating Malegaon blasts six years back.
>>>>> Proof ? Her  motorcycle (which wasn't in her possession for over a year
>>>>> and might as well  have been stolen like recent pune blasts) was
>>>>> recovered from the site leading  NIA to frame miss Pragya and led
>>>>> Chidambaram to coin a new term- 'saffron  terror'. No one wants to hear
>>>>> the fact that CBI and Maharashtra  ATS investigations have revealed the
>>>>> hand of nine 'minority community' guys  (and three absconding) behind
>>>>> this crime with the motive of triggering riots  in the area.
>>>>>ATS says it's got concrete proof against these nine guys but
>   NIA wants to prove its own contrived story by hook or by crook.
>>>>>Six years have gone without as much as a charge sheet but  Sadhvi Pragya
>>>>> languishes in the jail suffering mental and physical pain in  addition
>>>>> to various ailments she's acquired in the prison.
>>>>>And here we are, the so called majority of  India..watching in silence
>>>>> like gullible docile sheep, waiting for some  miracle to  happen.
>>>>
>>>>>Human rights  anyone?
>>>>>
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