Sunday, December 29, 2013

[IAC#RG] An analysis on AAP KA UDAI By Anuj Agarwal , shelli Kaslee and Arun Tiwari


Respected Friends

NUTAN VARSH ABHINANDAN.

 An analysis on AAP.
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दो सभ्यताओं का संघर्ष
    च विधानसभा चुनावों में नरेन्द्र मोदी की अगुवाई में भाजपा की जीत
गहरे मायने रखती है। यह देश में राष्ट्रवाद के बढ़ते उफान का संकेत है।
जाति, धर्म, क्षेत्र और भाषा की राजनीति का अगला क्रम राष्ट्रवाद ही होता
है और अब इन मुद्दों के सहारे राजनीति के धंधेबाजों की दुकानें सिमटने का
समय आता जा रहा है। निश्चय ही अभी इसमें कुछ और वर्ष लगेंगे। कांग्रेस
पार्टी द्वारा मानवतावाद और अंतर्राष्ट्रीयवाद के नाम पर संकीर्ण सोच के
दायरे में जीने पर मजबूर किये जा रहे भारतीयों में इन मुद्दों का खोखलापन
समझ में आता जा रहा है। विकसित देशों द्वारा अपने हितों व अपने बाजार को
भारत में बनाये रखने के लिए नित नयी-नयी साजिशें रची जाती हैं। कांग्रेस
पार्टी एवं कई क्षेत्रीय दलों से इनकी खासी गलबहियां हैं। पिछले दस
वर्षों की अनवरत लूट व भ्रष्टाचार को छुपाने के लिए इन्हीं शक्तियों ने
'जनलोकपाल, 'आम आदमी पार्टी एवं नारी उत्पीडऩ जैसे आंदोलनों, दल व
मुद्दों को भड़काया एवं जनता को भ्रमित करने की कोशिश की है। वस्तुत: यह
दो सभ्यताओं का संघर्ष है जिसमें एक ओर भाजपा एवं संघ परिवार है तो दूसरी
ओर कांग्रेस पार्टी, वामपंथ एवं पश्चिमी बाजारू ताकतें हैं। अब यह विभाजन
स्पष्ट हो चुका है।
    पिछले दस वर्षों में कांग्रेस पार्टी ने बड़ी कुटिलता से संघ परिवार
को अपने फंदे में जकड़कर इनके आंदोलन को बिखेरने की कोशिश की है। अनेक
संघ के नेताओं को हिन्दू सांप्रदायिकता भड़काने के नाम पर घेरे में लिया
तो अनेक भाजपा नेताओं को घोटालों व भ्रष्टाचार के मुद्दों पर घेरकर
निस्तेज करने की साजिश की। भाजपा के अनेक असंतुष्ट मुद्दों को भड़काकर
पार्टी में विद्रोह की अनेक कोशिशों को अंजाम दिया गया और अनेक जगह भाजपा
की सरकारों को गिराने व हराने के षड्यंत्र रचे गये। कहीं न कहीं कांग्रेस
पार्टी लालकृष्ण आडवाणी, सुषमा स्वराज एवं अरुण जेटली जैसे भाजपा के
शीर्ष नेतृत्प को घेरकर रोके रखने में सफल हुई और इसी कारण पिछले दस
वर्षों में भाजपा अपने विस्तार व प्रभाव के साथ-साथ मुद्दों से भटकती नजर
आई और संघ परिवार भी अपनी कमजोरियों का शिकार होकर बिखराव का शिकार होता
गया।
    कांग्रेस पार्टी की नजर भाजपा शासित राज्यों के मुख्यमंत्रियों पर थी
और इस क्रम में वह कर्नाटक, उत्तराखण्ड, हिमाचल प्रदेश व झारखंड में
भाजपा की कमजोरियों को भुनाकर सरकार बनाने में सफल रही। बिखरते टूटते
भाजपा व संघ परिवार के लिए नरेंद्र मोदी का प्रभावी व्यक्तित्व एवं उनकी
प्रधानमंत्री के उम्मीदवार के लिए दावेदारी की स्वीकृति अमृत के समान
सिद्ध हो गयी। मोदी के बढ़ते कद, जन स्वीकार्यता एवं प्रभाव ने यकायक कुछ
ही महीनों में भाजपा को पुन: दौड़ में खड़ा कर दिया और गुजरात,
मध्यप्रदेश एवं छत्तीसगढ़ के भाजपा मुख्यमंत्रियों के शानदार शासन में
तीसरी बार जनता के विश्वास व्यक्त करने के कारण कांग्रेस पार्टी बिखराव
के दौर में आकर अब तक के सबसे खराब प्रदर्शन के निकट खड़ी है। चिंता
कांग्रेस पार्टी से जुड़े धनपतियों, बुद्धिजीवी वर्ग, लेखकों, कलाकारों,
पत्रकारों, एक्टिविस्ट लोगों व एनजीओं गैंग को है। चूंकि उनकी दुकानें
बंद होने वाली है। ऐसे में इस वर्ग के लोगों द्वारा सोनिया-मनमोहन के
सत्ता संघर्ष व घोटालों के 'सेफ्टीवाल्व अन्ना हजारे व अरविंद केजरीवाल,
जिनका प्रयोग भ्रम की राजनीति के तहत 'जनलोकपाल आंदोलन के लिए किया गया
था, की विश्वसनीयता का पुन: प्रयोग किया जा रहा है। दिल्ली में अपनी हार
निश्चित जानकर अनेक कांग्रेसी नेताओं ने अपने समर्थकों से आआपा को वोट
दिलाया। मीडिया का भरपूर इस्तेमाल कर आआपा के पक्ष में हवा बनाना एवं
आआपा की उपलब्ध्यिों को बढ़ा-चढ़ा कर दिखाना तथा अन्ना का इस्तेमाल कर
'लोकपाल विधेयक को पुन: चर्चा में लाकर भाजपा की जीत, तेलगांना, पार्टी
की हार एवं छूटते सहयोगियों के मुद्दे से ध्यान हटाने की हर संभव कोशिश
करना रणनीति के तहत है।
    कांग्रेस पार्टी एवं उसके समर्थक 'मीडिया एवं एनजीओ की कोशिश है कि
'केजरीवालको सुशासन, पारदर्शिता, भ्रष्टाचार के विरुद्ध संघर्षशील नायक
आदि के रूप में मोदी के समानान्तर पेश किया जाये और किसी हद तक मोदी के
पक्ष में बहती हवा को मंद किया जाये। किंतु देश 'दिल्ली नहीं है। भाजपा
की लगातार बढ़त व लोकप्रियता, उसके मुख्यमंत्रियों का तीसरी बार चुना
जाना कहीं न कहीं उनके उसी 'सुशासन पर जनता की मुहर है जिसका दावा
केजरीवाल कर रहे हैं, किंतु प्रयोग में अभी तक कुछ भी करके नहीं दिखा
पाये हैं।
    मुख्य मुद्दे भारतीयता, स्वसंस्कृति, स्वदेशी एवं रोजगार और
भारतीयोंं के आत्मगौरव व स्वाभिमान के हैं जो भारतीय जनता पार्टी की
विचारधारा के मूल तत्व है। इन मुद्दों पर केजरीवाल कहीं न कहीं कांग्रेसी
विचारधारा की गोदी में बैठे दिखते हैं। निश्चित रूप से 'भारत तत्व की खोज
भाजपा व संघ परिवार के दर्शन में तो खोजी जा सकती है, बाकी दलों में इसका
मिलना मुश्किल होता जा रहा है। परिवर्तन लोकतंत्र या आवश्यकता है तो आने
वाले लोकसभा चुनाव में जनता क्यों न संघ परिवार पर दांव लगाये?

आप की नैया - कांग्रेस खिवैया
लोकसभा चुनावों में अपनी हार, बिखराव व टूट से पहले कांग्रेस पार्टी अपने
संभावित विकल्प एनडीए की राह में अधिकतम रोड़े बिखेरने पर आमादा है। आआपा
पार्टी की दिल्ली में सरकार, फर्जी लोकपाल कानून और भारतीय राजनयिक
देवयानी के प्रकरण में अमेरिका से तकरार अकस्मात नहीं है। कांग्रेस के
डूबते जहाज पर सवार 'तोडफ़ोड़ व प्रपंच की राजनीति के रणनीतिकार चार
राज्यों में अपनी हार सुनिश्चित जानकर विधनसभा चुनावों के बाद के
नकारात्मक परिदृश्य को भ्रम व भटकाव की राजनीति में बदलने की योजना पहले
ही गढ़ चुके थे। दिल्ली चुनावों में अंतिम समय में कांग्रेसी नेताओं
द्वारा गुपचुप तरीके से आआपा को समर्थन, अन्ना के अनशन का 'फिक्स गेम व
लोकपाल बिल और देवयानी का मसला सब पहले से निर्धरित खेल थे जिससे भाजपा व
मोदी की जीत एवं कांग्रेस व राहुल की शर्मनाक हार चर्चा में न आ सके।
अपने अति उत्साही व जरूरत से ज्यादा आत्मविश्वासी कांग्रेसी रणनीतिकारों
ने दिल्ली में कांग्रेस पार्टी की लुटिया डूबा दी और उखड़े खूंटो को
संभालती, खीजती-खिसियाती कांग्रेस, जहाँ 'आम आदमी पार्टी को अपनी 'बी टीम
बनाकर अपनी सरकार दोबारा बनाने पर आमादा थी, वहीं वह अब उल्टे 'आम आदमी
पार्टी की 'बी टीम बन बैठी है। प्रेस मीडिया, कारपोरेट घरानों, अमेरिकी
थिंक टैंक (फोर्ड फाउंडेशन व सीआईए) और मनमोहन सिंह के 'चंडीगढ़ क्लब की
बदौलत 'सेफ्टी वाल्व थ्योरी के तहत घोटालों से जनता का ध्यान हटाने व
उलझाने का ठेका उठाकर केजरीवाल टीम ने दिल्ली में सरकार बनाने में सफलता
तो पा ली है किन्तु इससे देश में व्यवस्था परिवर्तन के बड़े आंदोलनों को
बिखेरने के षड्यंत्र करने के जुर्म से उन्हें मुक्ति नहीं मिल सकती।
देर-सबेर देश की जनता उनसे हिसाब मांगेगी। 'क्रोनी कैपिटलिज्म एवं
'कारपोरेट अराजकता के मेल से निकली उनकी 'आम आदमी पार्टी व उसकी सरकार एक
भ्रम और धोखा ही साबित होनी है और 2014 इसका गवाह बनेगा।
केजरीवाल को मोदी के समक्ष प्रधानमंत्री पद के दावेदार के रूप में खड़े
करने की अमेरिकी साजिश को समझना बहुत जरूरी है क्योंकि उनकी लोकसभा
चुनावों में दावेदारी पुन: एनडीए के वोट काटने का षड्यंत्र ही है, जिसके
परिणाम त्रिशंकू लोकसभा के रूप में सामने आयेंगे और इस खेल के सफल होने
पर सिर्फ और सिर्फ कांग्रेस पार्टी व अमेरिका ही मुस्करा रहे होंगे।
ईश्वर देश की जनता को धोखा देने की कोशिश करने वालों को सद्बुद्धि दे।
हाँ जनकेन्द्रित शासन की कमियाँ व भ्रष्टाचार के प्रति उदासीन रवैया,
भाजपा को भी छोडऩा होगा, तभी वह लोकसभा चुनावों में सरकार बनाने की सच्ची
दावेदार बन सकती है, नहीं तो तीसरे मोर्चे की सहायता से सत्ता में आने से
कांग्रेस पार्टी को कोई रोक नहीं सकता।
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Anuj Agarwal
National coordinator
Maulik Bharat
www.maulikbharat.org

Mob. : 9811424443



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www.dialogueindia.in
Mob. 9811424443

Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi right to information act

thanks a ton sir

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 30 December 2013 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi right to information act

1) Rs. 5 is for photocopy charges
2) Rs. 25 is application fee
3) Rs. 50 is first appeal fee to PGC
There is only First Appeal under DRTI

and YES you SHOULD appear before PGC.


On 12/30/13, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Sarbajit ji
>
> thanks a lot for below info. i have read about exceptions on DRTI . my
> question pertain to a taking copy of consent letter issued by DOE to
> schools. When applied under RTI 2005, they have given non sense answers and
> waiting for next 6 months at CIC would be a futile exercise
>
> Just 2 last questions , Rs 5 per page is towards photocopy or reply page.
> in 2nd appeal to PGC , do i need to personally appear for same
>
> please advise
>
> regards
> Mohit
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi
> right to information act
>
>
> Certainly you can try and use it.
>
> The advantage here is that the Chairman PGC is the former Chief Secy of
> Delhi
> and has been in some very "wet" positions  prior to getting this post.
> It remains to be seen if he favours you or the other side :-)
>
> Remember DRTI 2001 is different from RTI 2005, and the exemptions are
> wider. However there is some Constitutional article (Art 251 ???)
> which says that provisions of RTI Act 2005 can be read into the DRTI
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 12/29/13, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sarbajit ji
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. Request to please throw light on my questions
>> in
>> initial mail since discussion took different turn
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Sat 28 Dec, 2013 1:42 PM GMT Sarbajit Roy wrote:
>>
>>>It has not been repealed. It is still in force. Application fee is Rs.
>>>25 and Rs. 5 per page.
>>>
>>>On 12/28/13, bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Delhi right to information act 2001. has been repealed after coming of
>>>> RTI
>>>> Act,2005
>>>>
>>>> Bimal Khemani
>>>> RTI activist
>>>> ALIGARH-202001
>>>> INDIA
>>>> Mob:935-972-4625
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 28 December 2013 1:24 PM, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Members
>>>>
>>>> CIC has long waiting time for appeal disposal. I need urgent
>>>> information
>>>> from Directorate of education and thinking of using Delhi right to
>>>> information act 2001.
>>>>
>>>> 1. kindly advise if appeal disposable time by Public grievance
>>>> commission
>>>> is
>>>> as high as CIC.
>>>>
>>>> 2. would it be advisable to use above act , since i have never used it
>>>> before. I just wanted information about school fee hike in shortest
>>>> time
>>>> and
>>>> in all my prev RTI applications under RTI 2005 act DOE has given
>>>> incomplete
>>>> responses etc and it would take another 6 months to get info by the
>>>> time
>>>> case is heard in the CIC.
>>>>
>>>> request to please guide on the matter and oblige
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Mohit
>>>>
>>>
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Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi right to information act

1) Rs. 5 is for photocopy charges
2) Rs. 25 is application fee
3) Rs. 50 is first appeal fee to PGC
There is only First Appeal under DRTI

and YES you SHOULD appear before PGC.


On 12/30/13, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Sarbajit ji
>
> thanks a lot for below info. i have read about exceptions on DRTI . my
> question pertain to a taking copy of consent letter issued by DOE to
> schools. When applied under RTI 2005, they have given non sense answers and
> waiting for next 6 months at CIC would be a futile exercise
>
> Just 2 last questions , Rs 5 per page is towards photocopy or reply page.
> in 2nd appeal to PGC , do i need to personally appear for same
>
> please advise
>
> regards
> Mohit
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi
> right to information act
>
>
> Certainly you can try and use it.
>
> The advantage here is that the Chairman PGC is the former Chief Secy of
> Delhi
> and has been in some very "wet" positions prior to getting this post.
> It remains to be seen if he favours you or the other side :-)
>
> Remember DRTI 2001 is different from RTI 2005, and the exemptions are
> wider. However there is some Constitutional article (Art 251 ???)
> which says that provisions of RTI Act 2005 can be read into the DRTI
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On 12/29/13, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sarbajit ji
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. Request to please throw light on my questions
>> in
>> initial mail since discussion took different turn
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Sat 28 Dec, 2013 1:42 PM GMT Sarbajit Roy wrote:
>>
>>>It has not been repealed. It is still in force. Application fee is Rs.
>>>25 and Rs. 5 per page.
>>>
>>>On 12/28/13, bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Delhi right to information act 2001. has been repealed after coming of
>>>> RTI
>>>> Act,2005
>>>>
>>>> Bimal Khemani
>>>> RTI activist
>>>> ALIGARH-202001
>>>> INDIA
>>>> Mob:935-972-4625
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, 28 December 2013 1:24 PM, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Members
>>>>
>>>> CIC has long waiting time for appeal disposal. I need urgent
>>>> information
>>>> from Directorate of education and thinking of using Delhi right to
>>>> information act 2001.
>>>>
>>>> 1. kindly advise if appeal disposable time by Public grievance
>>>> commission
>>>> is
>>>> as high as CIC.
>>>>
>>>> 2. would it be advisable to use above act , since i have never used it
>>>> before. I just wanted information about school fee hike in shortest
>>>> time
>>>> and
>>>> in all my prev RTI applications under RTI 2005 act DOE has given
>>>> incomplete
>>>> responses etc and it would take another 6 months to get info by the
>>>> time
>>>> case is heard in the CIC.
>>>>
>>>> request to please guide on the matter and oblige
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Mohit
>>>>
>>>
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Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi right to information act

Article 251 in The Constitution Of India 1949
251. Inconsistency between laws made by Parliament under Articles 249 and 250 and laws made by the Legislatures of States Nothing in Articles 249 and 250 shall restrict the power of the Legislature of a State to make any law which under this Constitution it has power to make, but if any provision of a law made by the legislature of a State is repugnant to any provision of a law made by Parliament which Parliament has under either of the said articles power to make, the law made by Parliament, whether passed before or after the law made by the legislature of the State, shall prevail, and the law made by the Legislature of the State shall to the extent of the repugnancy, but so long only as the law made by Parliament continues to have effect, be inoperative
Thus rti act 2005 passed by parliament can prevail upon act of 2001


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Sarbajit ji

thanks a lot for below info. i have read about exceptions on DRTI . my question pertain to a taking copy of consent letter issued by DOE to schools. When applied under RTI 2005, they have given non sense answers and waiting for next 6 months at CIC would be a futile exercise

Just 2 last questions , Rs 5 per page is towards photocopy or reply page.
in 2nd appeal to PGC , do i need to personally appear for same

please advise

regards
Mohit 

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 29 December 2013 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: : [HumJanenge] Re: [HumJanenge-YG] application under delhi right to information act

Certainly you can try and use it.

The advantage here is that the Chairman PGC is the former Chief Secy of Delhi
and has been in some very "wet" positions  prior to getting this post.
It remains to be seen if he favours you or the other side :-)

Remember DRTI 2001 is different from RTI 2005, and the exemptions are
wider. However there is some Constitutional article (Art 251 ???)
which says that provisions of RTI Act 2005 can be read into the DRTI

Sarbajit

On 12/29/13, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Sarbajit ji
>
> Thanks for your feedback. Request to please throw light on my questions in
> initial mail since discussion took different turn
>
>
> ------------------------------
> On Sat 28 Dec, 2013 1:42 PM GMT Sarbajit Roy wrote:
>
>>It has not been repealed. It is still in force. Application fee is Rs.
>>25 and Rs. 5 per page.
>>
>>On 12/28/13, bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Delhi right to information act 2001. has been repealed after coming of
>>> RTI
>>> Act,2005
>>>
>>> Bimal Khemani
>>> RTI activist
>>> ALIGARH-202001
>>> INDIA
>>> Mob:935-972-4625
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 28 December 2013 1:24 PM, Mohit Goel <mr_mohitg@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Members
>>>
>>> CIC has long waiting time for appeal disposal. I need urgent information
>>> from Directorate of education and thinking of using Delhi right to
>>> information act 2001.
>>>
>>> 1. kindly advise if appeal disposable time by Public grievance commission
>>> is
>>> as high as CIC.
>>>
>>> 2. would it be advisable to use above act , since i have never used it
>>> before. I just wanted information about school fee hike in shortest time
>>> and
>>> in all my prev RTI applications under RTI 2005 act DOE has given
>>> incomplete
>>> responses etc and it would take another 6 months to get info by the time
>>> case is heard in the CIC.
>>>
>>> request to please guide on the matter and oblige
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Mohit
>>>
>>
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RE: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP


Dear All,

The foul language used by Sarabjit could be avoided, in civic inter communication between cultured and educated people.My logic and rationale is that if Anna had a few wives, and Ramdeo was a nobody or whoever, and AK did whatever as alleged by you, has little bearing on the nationalistic issues being raised by them presently.It may be prudent, now, to focus on real issues and put the character assasination on back-burner, at least for the time being.

Today the nation needs all of us to fight hard, together towards the common goal of getting the country back on track. And we will not get many such opportunities. Inadvertantly, a wave of good governance, honesty, transparency has got created. Lets all put our beans together, ride this wave, and hope something good will come about.

Brig Vijay Saxena

To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
From: ssr.singh@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:49:05 +0000
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear  Sir,

You write really well. I sincerely appreciate it.

Your research capabilities are amazing. However, this capability is mostly used to prove points which are different from the common perception, with avoidable negativity and pessimism.

At the outset - let me state that I am not from AAP but do endorse approach of AK and many who are making real difference like Gen VK, Anna, Baba Ram Dev, Ms Kiran Bedi and people like her.

Most of the time you seem to believe that except mail shooters like you are on the right path and rest are not so.

Everyone knows that the muck created in the country is massive and it is not easy to clean it up. Yet the effort, sincerity and commitment these people are working with is amazing and really worth appreciating. In one of my last mail too I had taken liberty to request you for not using derogatory language in the mail since it gives reasons not to take the write-ups seriously besides creating bad taste.

Let's start 2014 with optimism, be generous in giving due credits to all those who are really at least sincerely trying to make difference.

Wishing a Great and Happy New Year 2014.

SR
Regards,

SR

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:15:39
To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Reply-To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear Capt Datt

Did you ask Ramdev who the fuck he was before you mindless fools supported him ?

Did you ask Anna how many wives he has before you extended him your
love (and money) ?

Did you ask Arvind how many crores he has swallowed from CIA in the
past few years before you praised him to us?

If you haven't, then you have absolutely no business to ask our
antecedents. Unlike them we have not asked you for even a single
paise, and neither have we asked you to desecrate our national
emblems, songs and symbols.

PS: The only reason we "sift" emails is because we get so many of
them. And yet we strive to ensure that the "sense" of all points of
view (even if it is not "your" email) gets communicated to our
members.

You obviously know nothing about AAP and are just mindlessly repeating
the nonsense they brainwash you worker drones with.

AAP works on the same MLM principles as Amway, Reverend Moon or
ISKCON. More fool you.

Do deprogram yourself (while you still can) by reading this
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Freakonomics-expanded.pdf

especially the Chapter at p. 79 "Why do Drug dealers still live with
their Moms ?")

Sarbajit

On 12/28/13, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:
> All anti AAP rhetoric from IAC must cease forthwith. What are the
> antecedents of the IAC leaders.
> You sift mails and publish only your views.
> I firmly support AAP. They will reshape this country and bring hoe and
> optimism back.
> ANNA is great man but has been mislead. If AAP had not trounced congress
> there would have been no Lokpal. The political parties would not have
> bothered about his fast.
> Suggest join Kejriwal and accelerate the transition
>
> Sqn ldr sn datt retd


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RE: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

My dear Sarbajit,
I donot know your educational qualification. But I do appreciate your commitment to cleansing the politics of our Nation. But may I humbly request you to mind your language!! Thanks Seshadri

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From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of ssr.singh@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:19 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear Sir,

You write really well. I sincerely appreciate it.

Your research capabilities are amazing. However, this capability is mostly used to prove points which are different from the common perception, with avoidable negativity and pessimism.

At the outset - let me state that I am not from AAP but do endorse approach of AK and many who are making real difference like Gen VK, Anna, Baba Ram Dev, Ms Kiran Bedi and people like her.

Most of the time you seem to believe that except mail shooters like you are on the right path and rest are not so.

Everyone knows that the muck created in the country is massive and it is not easy to clean it up. Yet the effort, sincerity and commitment these people are working with is amazing and really worth appreciating. In one of my last mail too I had taken liberty to request you for not using derogatory language in the mail since it gives reasons not to take the write-ups seriously besides creating bad taste.

Let's start 2014 with optimism, be generous in giving due credits to all those who are really at least sincerely trying to make difference.

Wishing a Great and Happy New Year 2014.

SR
Regards,

SR

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:15:39
To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Reply-To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear Capt Datt

Did you ask Ramdev who the fuck he was before you mindless fools supported him ?

Did you ask Anna how many wives he has before you extended him your love (and money) ?

Did you ask Arvind how many crores he has swallowed from CIA in the past few years before you praised him to us?

If you haven't, then you have absolutely no business to ask our antecedents. Unlike them we have not asked you for even a single paise, and neither have we asked you to desecrate our national emblems, songs and symbols.

PS: The only reason we "sift" emails is because we get so many of them. And yet we strive to ensure that the "sense" of all points of view (even if it is not "your" email) gets communicated to our members.

You obviously know nothing about AAP and are just mindlessly repeating the nonsense they brainwash you worker drones with.

AAP works on the same MLM principles as Amway, Reverend Moon or ISKCON. More fool you.

Do deprogram yourself (while you still can) by reading this http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Freakonomics-expanded.pdf

especially the Chapter at p. 79 "Why do Drug dealers still live with their Moms ?")

Sarbajit

On 12/28/13, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:
> All anti AAP rhetoric from IAC must cease forthwith. What are the
> antecedents of the IAC leaders.
> You sift mails and publish only your views.
> I firmly support AAP. They will reshape this country and bring hoe and
> optimism back.
> ANNA is great man but has been mislead. If AAP had not trounced
> congress there would have been no Lokpal. The political parties would
> not have bothered about his fast.
> Suggest join Kejriwal and accelerate the transition
>
> Sqn ldr sn datt retd

Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

I would agree with mr singh. Though I m great admirer of narendra modi, I would agree that there is a wind of change and  arvind kejriwal has been able to channelize it properly.
When we jear ak it has freshness, honesty and committment. Whether he is successful ir not is a different matter. But it would definotely help major parties to respect feelongs of janta and stop doing petty politics. Corruption must go. Future is in this. If bjp understands this well and works in this direction and modi starts speaking from heart what he wants to do for cointry rather than just blaming congress and taking speeches to personal venom against gandhi fly and his achievements , we have a bright future for india.
Aap must come at national level as a checkerin for rulong parties to remain in control , be answerable and fulfill public demands.
It was much said that for olimproving level of politics good persons should come in politics. Ak has proved that clean persons can win.
YES WE CAN.
I wish him all the best.

Dr ashit mehta


Sent from Samsung Mobile


-------- Original message --------
From: ssr.singh@gmail.com
Date:30/12/2013 09:41 (GMT+05:30)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear  Sir,

You write really well. I sincerely appreciate it.

Your research capabilities are amazing. However, this capability is mostly used to prove points which are different from the common perception, with avoidable negativity and pessimism. 

At the outset - let me state that I am not from AAP but do endorse approach of AK and many who are making real difference like Gen VK, Anna, Baba Ram Dev, Ms Kiran Bedi and people like her. 

 Most of the time you seem to believe that except  mail shooters like you are on the right path and rest are not so.

Everyone knows that the muck created in the country is massive and it is not easy to clean it up. Yet the effort, sincerity and commitment these people are working with is amazing and really worth appreciating. In one of my last mail too I had taken liberty to request you for not using derogatory language in the mail since it gives reasons not to take the write-ups seriously besides creating bad taste.

Let's start 2014 with optimism, be generous in giving due credits to all those who are really at least sincerely trying to make difference.

Wishing a Great and Happy New Year 2014.

SR
Regards,

SR

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:15:39
To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Reply-To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear Capt Datt

Did you ask Ramdev who the fuck he was before you mindless fools supported him ?

Did you ask Anna how many wives he has before you extended him your
love (and money) ?

Did you ask Arvind how many crores he has swallowed from CIA in the
past few years  before you praised him to us?

If you haven't, then you have absolutely no business to ask our
antecedents. Unlike them we have not asked you for even a single
paise, and neither have we asked you to desecrate our national
emblems, songs and symbols.

PS: The only reason we "sift" emails is because we get so many of
them. And yet we strive to ensure that the "sense" of all points of
view (even if it is not "your" email) gets communicated to our
members.

You obviously know nothing about AAP and are just mindlessly repeating
the nonsense they brainwash you worker drones with.

AAP works on the same MLM principles as Amway, Reverend Moon or
ISKCON. More fool you.

Do deprogram yourself (while you still can) by reading this
http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Freakonomics-expanded.pdf

especially the Chapter at p. 79 "Why do Drug dealers still live with
their Moms ?")

Sarbajit

On 12/28/13, Sn Datt <captsndatt@gmail.com> wrote:
> All anti AAP rhetoric from IAC must cease forthwith. What are the
> antecedents of the IAC leaders.
> You sift mails and publish only your views.
> I firmly support AAP. They will reshape this country and bring hoe and
> optimism back.
> ANNA is great man but has been mislead. If AAP had not trounced congress
> there would have been no Lokpal. The political parties would not have
> bothered about his fast.
> Suggest join Kejriwal and accelerate the transition
>
> Sqn ldr sn datt retd