Friday, July 19, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

dear sardesai
ur right proof is required to substantiate various allegations made. hear against AK there can be various reason to criticise AK that is to be highlighted instead of alleging dishonesty etc

vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

>Insead of asking others to give you the proof of AK's and his team's dishonesty, why don't you try to find out whether there was any sincerity of purpose in all his behaviour and acts so far?
>
>V. S. Sardesai
>--------------------------------------------
>On Fri, 19/7/13, Girender Singh <girinder_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Cc: sroy.mb@gmail.com
> Date: Friday, 19 July, 2013, 1:14 PM
>
> Dear Sir, Jai Hind
> Please provide a Proof of AK's & his Team's dishonesty
> if you want to mind-wash the supporters of AAP.
> Please also provide the Solution of IAC Forum... in What way
> it is going to solve this mass issues of Public Interest
> without making any Platform.
> The Ultimate Solution is lying through Parliamentary Process
> and What are your programs to make it success in that
> direction.
> I am not the suppor of AK but in real an IAC supporter but
> to support AK is not a insincere act because ultimately if
> we want to clean the parliamentarians upto some extent then
> it will enhance our success a little towards Vyavastha
> Parivartan.
> Waiting to your Reply
> Girendra Singh
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 7/18/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling
> ?
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 8:49 PM
>
> Dear Sant-ji
>
> As they say in the US "read my lips"
>
> The promoters of a) Aam Aadmi Party and b) NCPRI are
>
> (i) ALL
> (ii) MASSIVELY FOREIGN-FINANCED
>
> (iii) HARAAMIs
>
> IAC will have nothing to do with them.
>
> IAC is not concerned with "quantity", but is only
> interested in "quality" of our members. People who
> don't agree with our POV / stringent ethics are strongly
> encouraged to leave our forums.
>
>
> We are also disgusted with weak people who e-mail in to
> agree that yes Arvind / AAP etc. "may not" be
> clean BUT they are doing "good work" and we should
> support them since they are the "best alternative"
> from civil society etc. (We get about 5-10 emails like
> this
> everyday) . BULLSHIT. You are either genuine currency
> or you are a "nakli" note. There is nothing
> in between
>
>
> Hope this clarifies our position.
>
> Welcome back
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013
> at 12:18 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> After nearly two months of US trip(for some
> intense post-doctoral research work, basically) when I'm
> wishing to resume my touch with nationalistic work,I'm
> appalled to see our internal bickering amongst virtually
> like-minded people/groups on non-core
> issues(anti-corruption
> drive specially).Can't we all decently and
> professionally confederate in our struggle against the
> anti-national/social elements,who're bent upon wrecking
> our socio-economic fabric,and stalling our destined
> overall
> growth?
>
> Can't we list our tasks in some order of priority(like
> ABC analysis) and act in a concerted manner? Freedom
> fighters,with all their differences,did so in the days of
> the yore,with aplomb. Why can't we?
> The wicked/evil forces must be musing at our internal
> strife.
> Is ego coming in the way?I wish an
> actual(not virtual) meeting of all leading lights could
> take
> place,in the form of brain storming session,and
> a(time-bound) plan of action could be formulated.
> Hope and pray we don't fritter away our precious
> resources/energies in dealing with trivial issues..
> I'm sure the best brains would welcome this idea
> and start straight away in hammering out the optimal
> solution.s p mathurDGP
> (retd)
>
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[IAC#RG] FW: UPA exposed to average Indians - Chitra Subramanian Duella

(Reaching Citizens of India for RTI approach through you, please do forward)

Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:01:19 -0700
From: kumar_8134@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: {satyapravah} UPA exposed to average Indians - Chitra Subramanian Duella

Regarding Kedarnath floods:

It as reported that the Helicopters lent by Robert Vadra's Co. charged Rs.2 lakh per person brought out of the Valley and dropped on an accessible road/ location, WHILE TO BRING A DEAD BODY/CORPSE, VADRA HAD CHARGED RS. 1LAKH PER DEAD BODY.

WOULD SOME ONE ASK UNDER RTI, THE UTTARAKHAND GOVT. WHETHER THESE ARE TRUE, AND ASK FOR DETAILS OF AMOUNTS PAID FOR PRIVATE HELICOPTERS USED FOR EVACUATION?

AND WHY THE OFFER OF NARENDRA MODY TO SEND HELICOPTERS FREE OF CHARGE FOR EVACUATION OF THE STRANDED WAS REFUSED?

From: bhagwat goel <bhagwatgoel2000@yahoo.co.in>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: {satyapravah} UPA exposed to average Indians - Chitra Subramanian Duella

I would written to PRIME MINISTER VAJPAYEE reminding him THAT WE ELECTED HIM NOT BRAJESH MISHRA.I kept my fight with him even after his leaving office bitterly after I realized the full import of misdeeds.

Bhagwat Goel

From: Kumar Arun <kumar2786@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013 8:44 PM
Subject: {satyapravah} UPA exposed to average Indians - Chitra Subramanian Duella

Only brain washed & paid spokesperson of UPA, are trying to take on Modi under the vail of secularism. India's most politicians whose only mission have been stacking the corrupt wealth from the power and influence they carry, never liked even the idea of Hindu India dreaming towards 'Hindu Rashtra'. Modi becoming popular among Hindu India brings unreasonable fears in all most all the corrupt politician including the one who have been serving the party like BJP, Shiv Sena, and several other small allies of BJP.

In stead of talking about how the government of today, will serve it's people in distress, whether the suffering continues in the valley of Kedarnath or innocent children dying by consuming meals prepared by the school in Bihar, the media is focussing it's discussion to divide the nation further in the name of Modi.

That is why, I have requested people of India to drop the channels like NDTV, IBN, etc, from their subscription of cable TV. Unfortunately, these channels are surviving and their talk show host is collecting a fat check as renumeration because Indians are feeding their hard earned money to them. It's about time to boycott any channel and print media who feed the non-sense ideas in the innocent minds of Indian nationals.

One thing is very important for all the pseudo-secular must realize that India has been SECULAR since it's inception, even by the words of constitution and by its action. The slogan of secularism which has been completely demoralizing from the leaders like Nehru-Indira-Raji and now by Sonia-Rahul Gandhi and many undeserving political giants out side the congress, is an utter disgrace for Bharat-Mata.

Dr. Kumar Arun

From: S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 20:30

1. Chitra's revelations are startling and stunning that it was Brajesh Mishra who was running the Govt. and LKA and ABV were just puppets obeying what he said in any matter. Read what she says:

.....It is because of who Q was that George Fernandes, India's Minister of Defence during the NDA regime, told me that he had been told by National Security Adviser Brajesh Mishra "not to touch the Bofors file" – because of instructions from former Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and deputy Prime Minister LK Advani. It is no secret that Vaypayee and Advani were very accommodating about Q and his friends in New Delhi. How else can one explain why the NDA government, in power from 1998 to 2004, couldn't arrest Q?

It was on the Q factor that every ambassador in Switzerland, Sweden and Italy was evaluated for their performance. One permanent representative to the United Nations in Geneva, Switzerland (PR) who was in weekly contact with Brajesh Mishra, lied to the Swiss about his interest in following the Bofors case. The official contact between India and Switzerland is through Bern, the Swiss capital. He had no business interfering in bilateral matters between two states. It is because of Q that none of this is in the public domain.........

2. It is clear from the above that LKA was in complete collusion with Sonia Gandhi, bowing almost to her feet while meeting her or calling her Soniaji, and until the Goa meet, BJP was run as a Congress support Party under Sonia's directions.

LKA had apparently assured Sonia of a third term for UPA by ensuring continuance of his leadership of BJP. LKA tried his best to prevent Narendra Mody's rise to Central role, first by faking diarrhoea and unable to travel (which he did to Jaipur the next day), then trying his best to deter Mody from being made the chief for the Elections in BJP strongly supporting two Committees one headed by him for State Elections and the Parliamentary Election Committee to be decided later.

3. A strong Rajnath SIngh defied the opposition from Ananth Kumar and mild resistance from Sushmaji and other seniors at Goa, and announced Narendra Mody as the Poll Panel Chief, that led to the drama of LKA resigning from the Parliamentary Committee and the leaders q-ing to make him withdraw but Rajnath ignoring him and going to a Jaipur session.

LKA had to swallow his own spit by a shameless approach to RSS Chief, whom he had earlier described as a non-entity so far as BJP was concerned as a Political Party. A compromise was reached and LKA was asked to withdraw his papers.

4. Congress has been too unhappy with the developments and LKA's failure to contain Narendra Mody, and hence LKA's visit to Nagpur to meet RSS Bhagwat followed by Rajnath Singh to Nagpur and the parleys led to mellowing down of the decision by a statement issued that all decision of the Poll Panel would be taken by Rajnath SIngh and Mody jointly and not by Mody alone.

5. It was Brajesh Mishra, the CIA mole in PM's office, who got Rahul Gandhi(Raol Vinci) and his Colombian girl friend released from Logan Airport, where they were arrested by FBI for carrying millions of US$ cash without declaration. On Sonia's approach to ABV through Brajesh, ABV agreed instructing the Indian Ambassador in US to get Raol Vinci released who was flown back with another Passport in the name Rahul Gandhi issued by the Embassy in haste.

SHOULD NOT ABV BE TRIED FOR TREASON OF THE PARTY BY WORKING AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THE PARTY AND COUNTRY BY THESE DEEDS ESP. SAVING Q FROM PROSECUTION?

RAM JETHMALANI RIGHLY OBERSEVED IN AAP KI ADALAT OF INDIATV, THAT IT WAS LKA WHO DESTROYED THE PROSPECTS OF BJP IN KARNATAKA BY ACTING AGAINST YEDDY WITH THE SOLE INTENTION OF MAKING ANANTHKUMAR THE CM, RISKING THE STATE AND LOSING IT TO CONGRESS- WAS IT A DELIBERATE ACTION TO PLEASE SONIA?

From: S. Kalyanaraman <kalyan97@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: The Quattrocchi gravy train - Chitra Subramanian Duella

http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2013/07/the-quattrocchi-gravy-train-chitra.html

JUL

The Quattrocchi gravy train - Chitra Subramanian Duella

THE QUATTROCCHI GRAVY TRAIN

Chitra is a Hindi, Urdu, French, Bengali and a little Italian speaking Tam married to an Italian. She writes, is a newshog, and manages a company in Switzerland. Oh! She was also instrumental in investigating the Bofors story in 1987.

POSTED BY CHITRA SUBRAMANIAM DUELLA | 36 MINS AGO IN GOVERNANCE JULY 16, 2013 4:25 PM| 1 COMMENT

Italian accountant Ottavio Quattrocchi who was paid a bribe of $7.2 million in the 1986 Bofors-India gun deal passed away last weekend. He was no ordinary commission agent operating in India. He was a gravy train close to the Gandhi family. It was common knowledge in New Delhi from the 70s that anyone who was invited to the Quattrocchi home had to wade through strategically placed photos of the Gandhi family. If there was a major negotiation, Q was the signore in the know.

Every Indian politician and political wannabe who met me to "discuss" Bofors (1989 to 2013) cursed Q behind his back and shuddered in his presence. Those who did not shiver like a leaf when his name was mentioned claimed they were using the Q-stick to keep Sonia Gandhi out of power after her husband and former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi was killed. So, everybody was in the Q game for a personal interest camouflaged as national interest. Everyone thought my political encounter with the movers and shakers of India was because of Bofors.

Bofors was not about Q or R. Bofors was about the self-respect of a nation. It was about institutions in a democracy, the world's largest. It was about Indians defending India in extreme weather conditions while India slept.

The story is simple. India bought field howitzers from Sweden in 1986 for $1.2 billion dollars. The guns were state of the art, the price competitive. An additional contract ensured that we would manufacture the guns indigenously. Q (as leaked Bofors documents showed) walked into the deal at the 11th hour, asked for a 3% commission payable only when the deal was concluded by a date announced by him through his front company A.E. Services. He walked away a happy man, almost. So why would a Swedish armaments company pay an Italian in India working for Snamprogetti, an engineering arm of the Italian oil and gas firm Eni, for field howitzers?

This is what Amitabha Pande (former joint secretary in-charge of the Bofors contract) posted on Facebook after Q transited.

Q, like Warren Anderson of Union Carbide, was allowed to bolt out of India. It was after I had filed my report linking him directly to the Bofors payments with evidence from Switzerland and Sweden and before the story appeared in print. Q had fled from a major Indian airport because Indians allowed Q to bolt, knowing well that he had cheated Indians. It was in a manner similar to how India had allowed Anderson safe passage, knowing well that he had blood on his hands after the Bhopal gas tragedy.

Packing the punch of Berlusconi and Raja math (in 21st century Italian and Indian political lingo), Q turned entire generations of Indian politicians and bureaucrats and expert lawyers and political commentators into doormats. He was the parrot-green elephant with a yellow trunk and bells on his two hind-feet in a pink room. Andy Warhol at the Thyagaraja music festival in Tanjore (Tamil Nadu) singing Yantaro Mahanubhava, if that helps.

In addition to making a lot of money talking and arguing about him, people individually became prime ministers, governors, ambassadors and collectively let Indian down as they pretended to chase the Sicily-born Q from port to port. Q laughed all the way to the bank, something he had been doing in India for a long time.

Bribes to Q explain why when Swedish state radio reported on July 16, 1986 that Bofors had bribed Indians and others to take clinch the arms deal, then Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi informed the Lok Sabha at the first opportunity that neither he, nor his family nor his friends had anything to do with the deal.

It is because of who Q was that India has dithered on Bofors for 27 years.

It is because of Q's importance that in 2009 Indian law minister Hansraj Bharadwaj unblocked Q's accounts in London so that he could retrieve his bribe – the tax on which was paid by the Indian taxpayer.

It is because of who Q was that the Bofors case was closed in 2011 for want of evidence. It is because of who Q was that Manmohan Singh, Prime Minister of the world's largest democracy said India should apologise to him for hounding an innocent man. A few months later the income-tax department sent him a bill for the bribes.

It is because of who Q was that George Fernandes, India's Minister of Defence during the NDA regime, told me that he had been told by National Security Adviser Brajesh Mishra "not to touch the Bofors file" – because of instructions from former Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee and deputy Prime Minister LK Advani. It is no secret that Vaypayee and Advani were very accommodating about Q and his friends in New Delhi. How else can one explain why the NDA government, in power from 1998 to 2004, couldn't arrest Q?

It is because of who Q was that every institution in India from the parliament to the judiciary to the executive was tarred with the same brush.

It was because of who Q was that every head of India's premier investigating agency, the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) developed half a spine after retirement.

It was because of Q that the CBI sleuths during their several trips to Sweden to get at the truth did not meet key Swedish investigators. .

1997. Such was the detail of the money trail in the 350-odd leaked documents that the world's best lawyers in the world's toughest courts could not save the guilty among whom was Q. Such was the enormity and grandeur of the judgment in favour of India that Switzerland modified its laws for mutual assistance in criminal matters to third countries. Calling the decision "spectacular" as it had helped them plug holes in their own system, Swiss officials and lawmakers welcomed the Bofors-India ruling as proof that their country was not a haven for tainted money. Criminals could no longer delay or deny access to secret bank accounts. They could appeal only once at the federal level instead of numerous cantonal procedures and delays. The Marcos case from the Philippines and the Bofors case from India had rocked Switzerland in the 80s. The Marcos money was held under false names and codes and getting to the exact bank account numbers was not easy. Q was not bothered with such details – he was a blink away from the money. He knew he could buck India.

So in 1997, when I stood next to the Indian ambassador to Switzerland, KP Balakrishnan, (image given below) I had a pretty good idea about what was in the sealed box of secret documents from Swiss banks to India. Over 10 years of my life (1986-1997) running between Switzerland and Sweden investigating the case, six of which was sitting outside courts in various parts of Switzerland finally had a meaning.

Neither the Swiss courts nor the Swedish investigators cared who Q was. For them, he was the political payment, the entity that comes in when all the numbers are on the table and walks away with a portion of the loot without any questions. For them, he was involved in a major criminal act against the government of India.

July 13, 2013. The phone rang off the hook. Somebody called Q had died, so could they get a byte? It was not an important story, they all said, since it was breaking on a weekend and the editors and anchors were away. So, who wanted to speak to me? A junior anchor, one of them said. Like a junior engineer in Bhopal, I thought.

One television channel wanted to record my reaction before Q's death was confirmed. Upon prodding, one of them was honest enough to say they had no idea why they were calling me except that there was this database on Bofors with my number. Another said they would connect with me live at 1 am India time without disclosing my location.

To all those who want to save India from corruption, I ask – my number is on a data base, but where are the documents India received in a sealed box from Switzerland?.

RIP Q. You knew what you were doing. And you did it without fear and with favour.

You can watch Chitra Subramaniam Duella's interview on why India still doesn't know the truth about Bofors.http://www.newslaundry.com/2012/05/chitra-the-story-behind-bofors/

Anil Kumar • 4 minutes ago

Salutes to Chitra ji....Indian journalism misses you dear Chitra ji http://www.newslaundry.com/2013/07/the-quattrocchi-gravy-train/

__,_._,___

Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

Insead of asking others to give you the proof of AK's and his team's dishonesty, why don't you try to find out whether there was any sincerity of purpose in all his behaviour and acts so far?

V. S. Sardesai
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 19/7/13, Girender Singh <girinder_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Cc: sroy.mb@gmail.com
Date: Friday, 19 July, 2013, 1:14 PM

Dear Sir, Jai Hind
Please provide a Proof of AK's & his Team's dishonesty
if you want to mind-wash the supporters of AAP.
Please also provide the Solution of IAC Forum... in What way
it is going to solve this mass issues of Public Interest
without making any Platform.
The Ultimate Solution is lying through Parliamentary Process
and What are your programs to make it success in that
direction.
I am not the suppor of AK but in real an IAC supporter but
to support AK is not a insincere act because ultimately if
we want to clean the parliamentarians upto some extent then
it will enhance our success a little towards Vyavastha
Parivartan.
Waiting to your Reply
Girendra Singh
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/18/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling
?
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 8:49 PM

Dear Sant-ji

As they say in the US "read my lips"

The promoters of a) Aam Aadmi Party and b) NCPRI are

(i) ALL
(ii) MASSIVELY FOREIGN-FINANCED

(iii) HARAAMIs

IAC will have nothing to do with them.

IAC is not concerned with "quantity", but is only
interested in "quality" of our members. People who
don't agree with our POV / stringent ethics are strongly
encouraged to leave our forums.

We are also disgusted with weak people who e-mail in to
agree that yes Arvind / AAP etc. "may not" be
clean BUT they are doing "good work" and we should
support them since they are the "best alternative"
from civil society etc. (We get about 5-10 emails like
this
everyday) . BULLSHIT. You are either genuine currency
or you are a "nakli" note. There is nothing
in between

Hope this clarifies our position.

Welcome back

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013
at 12:18 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
wrote:

After nearly two months of US trip(for some
intense post-doctoral research work, basically) when I'm
wishing to resume my touch with nationalistic work,I'm
appalled to see our internal bickering amongst virtually
like-minded people/groups on non-core
issues(anti-corruption
drive specially).Can't we all decently and
professionally confederate in our struggle against the
anti-national/social elements,who're bent upon wrecking
our socio-economic fabric,and stalling our destined
overall
growth?

Can't we list our tasks in some order of priority(like
ABC analysis) and act in a concerted manner? Freedom
fighters,with all their differences,did so in the days of
the yore,with aplomb. Why can't we?
The wicked/evil forces must be musing at our internal
strife.
Is ego coming in the way?I wish an
actual(not virtual) meeting of all leading lights could
take
place,in the form of brain storming session,and
a(time-bound) plan of action could be formulated.
Hope and pray we don't fritter away our precious
resources/energies in dealing with trivial issues..
I'm sure the best brains would welcome this idea
and start straight away in hammering out the optimal
solution.s p mathurDGP
(retd)

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Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

Dear Shri Girender ji

# Today India/Bharat is a hugely contradictory place to live in.

# Corruption is (and shall always be) a fact of life in the foreseeable future.

# Lust, greed and dishonesty are deeply embedded into the social
fabric of 90% of Urban population. All the attendant evils - murders,
rapes, dowry, bride burning, caste evils, Ponzis, etc etc are a direct
consequence of this.

# What is Parliament going to do about this ? NOTHING !! At best they
can write laws, more laws and even more USELESS laws.

# Who are the people who write these laws ? Do you disagree that out
of 543 LS MPs at least 400 are Mafias, rowdies and godfathers ? What
should we expect from them ?

# The religious institutions which are meant to instill basic values
/ ethics / morals in the people are today numbered among the biggest
centres of politics and corruption. The more saintly and pious their
leaders portray themselves as, the bigger bastards they turn out to
be.

The plan/strategy/manifesto (call it by any name) of the IAC is very
simple, and can be expressed in 2 words (no rocket science needed) :-

DIRECT ACTION.

NB: All institutions of India have failed / become completely rotten.
The ONLY ones still holding out/up are the Defence Forces. When even
they go, we are going to live in very interesting times.

Sarbajit

On 7/19/13, Girender Singh <girinder_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Sir, Jai Hind
> Please provide a Proof of AK's & his Team's dishonesty if you want to
> mind-wash the supporters of AAP.
> Please also provide the Solution of IAC Forum... in What way it is going to
> solve this mass issues of Public Interest without making any Platform.
> The Ultimate Solution is lying through Parliamentary Process and What are
> your programs to make it success in that direction.
> I am not the suppor of AK but in real an IAC supporter but to support AK is
> not a insincere act because ultimately if we want to clean the
> parliamentarians upto some extent then it will enhance our success a little
> towards Vyavastha Parivartan.
> Waiting to your Reply
> Girendra Singh
> --------------------------------------------

Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

Dear Sri Sarbajit,

I have been observing that you have been constantly engaged in putting your one finger to Aravind or sometime towards Aruna roy forgetting that four other other fingers are towards you. And for that purpose you have been doing some research about those person. I do not what you get out of blaming some one or maligning some body. It would be great if you can focus your energy in some positive works rather pointing fingers on others. It seems you are a veteran and you are expected to guide others or become an example for others. But all your deeds are quite contrast. And for all this purpose you have been misusing this platform by sending some rubbish emails every time. I do not know if you are the moderator or anybody else but sure it requires moderation.

When some body opposes your view you start researching on that person and start writing against that person. Also you have been saying that this forum is not for persons affiliated to political parties, then why are you raising issues in this platforms about political people( like Aravind who you consider as political person).

I thought to respond your mail because a) it has been flooding the mailbox b) all these discussion are irrelevant to the cause of anti-corruption movement c) its some thing quite

Let me clarify that i am not a supporter of any political party at the same time never prefer to remain silent to such rubbish mails.

Warm Regards

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Girender Singh <girinder_singh@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Sir, Jai Hind
Please provide a Proof of AK's & his Team's dishonesty if you want to mind-wash the supporters of AAP.
Please also provide the Solution of IAC Forum... in What way it is going to solve this mass issues of Public Interest without making any Platform.
The Ultimate Solution is lying through Parliamentary Process and What are your programs to make it success in that direction.
I am not the suppor of AK but in real an IAC supporter but to support AK is not a insincere act because ultimately if we want to clean the parliamentarians upto some extent then it will enhance our success a little towards Vyavastha Parivartan.
Waiting to your Reply
Girendra Singh
--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 7/18/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 8:49 PM

Dear Sant-ji

As they say in the US "read my lips"

The promoters of a) Aam Aadmi Party and b) NCPRI are

(i) ALL
(ii) MASSIVELY FOREIGN-FINANCED

(iii) HARAAMIs

IAC will have nothing to do with them.

IAC is not concerned with "quantity", but is only
interested in "quality" of our members. People who
don't agree with our POV / stringent ethics are strongly
encouraged to leave our forums.

We are also disgusted with weak people who e-mail in to
agree that yes Arvind / AAP etc. "may not" be
clean BUT they are doing "good work" and we should
support them since they are the "best alternative"
from civil society etc. (We get about 5-10 emails like this
everyday) . BULLSHIT. You are either genuine currency
or you are a "nakli" note. There is nothing
in between

Hope this clarifies our position.

Welcome back

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013
at 12:18 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
wrote:

After nearly two months of US trip(for some
intense post-doctoral research work, basically) when I'm
wishing to resume my touch with nationalistic work,I'm
appalled to see our internal bickering amongst virtually
like-minded people/groups on non-core issues(anti-corruption
drive specially).Can't we all decently and
professionally confederate in our struggle against the
anti-national/social elements,who're bent upon wrecking
our socio-economic fabric,and stalling our destined overall
growth?

Can't we list our tasks in some order of priority(like
ABC analysis) and act in a concerted manner? Freedom
fighters,with all their differences,did so in the days of
the yore,with aplomb. Why can't we?
The wicked/evil forces must be musing at our internal
strife.

Is ego coming in the way?I wish an

actual(not virtual) meeting of all leading lights could take
place,in the form of brain storming session,and
a(time-bound) plan of action could be formulated.
Hope and pray we don't fritter away our precious
resources/energies in dealing with trivial issues..
I'm sure the best brains would welcome this idea
and start straight away in hammering out the optimal
solution.s p mathurDGP
(retd)

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RE: [IAC#RG] Request for Information under RTI Act 2005.

Excellent

Pure lies

chauhan

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To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Request for Information under RTI Act 2005.

dear Sarbajit ji

Congratulations

Shaymprasad Mantri

Human Rights Council

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To:
1) The Public Information Officer
(designated u/s 5(1) of Right to Information Act 2005)
Indian National Congress party
24 Akbar Road,
New Delhi

2) Shri Motilal Vora
Administration Office-in-Charge
Indian National Congress party
24 Akbar Road,
New Delhi

Date: 17-July-2013

BY EMAIL

Dear Sirs,

Request for Information under RTI Act.

I am constrained to inform you that despite perusal of AICC website
(aicc.org.in) and also several telephone calls to AICC telephone
numbers (23019080) etc. there is no clarity on who the Public
Information Officer of INC party is.

I could speak to office of Congress Party PR cell-in-charge (Shri.
Ajay Maken MP who is also my MP) who informed that Office of Shri
Motilal Vora (Treasurer INC)is dealing with the subject. On calling
Administration office of AICC (Tel:23017137) it was confirmed to me
that Shri Motilal Vora is seized of the matter but that AICC/INC has
no intention of submitting to RTI Act but that there is no stay order
/ ordinance as yet against direction of Central Information Commission
for INC to appoint its RTI setup by 15-July-2013

Accordingly, since nobody in AICC/INC is prepared to accept my RTI
request for information or to tell me to in whose favour I should make
out the Demand Draft of Rs. 10 application fee, please find below my
RTI query which I hope shall be answered expeditiously or within 30
days in any case.

I am always ready, able and willing to pay the prescribed fees under
RTI whenever called upon to do so.

Information sought:

1) Shri Rahul Gandhi (present Vice President of INC) was widely
reported in reputed newspapers like Times of India and Indian Express
etc as having stated on or about 14 April 2012 "I am a Brahmin...and
general secretary in the party" or suchlike. Kindly therefore inform
me as follows:-

a) If it is true that Shri Rahul Gandhi was General Secretary of the
party on 14.April 2012.

b) If it is true that Shri Rahul Gandhi was a Brahmin on 14.April 2012.

c) Provide me copies of all the supporting documents on basis of which
these claims / statements were made by Shri Rahul Gandhi. In the
alternative, the rejoinder, if any, to the newspapers concerned about
their reportage and its veracity.

d) Provide me the extract(s) from audited Account Books of INC party
to show that Shri Rahul Gandhi (senior office bearer of INC Party) has
been timely in depositing 1% of his annual income as required under
the published Rules/Regulations of the Indian National Congress Party.

Yours faithfully

Er. Sarbajit Roy
Hony. National Convenor
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Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?

Dear Sir, Jai Hind
Please provide a Proof of AK's & his Team's dishonesty if you want to mind-wash the supporters of AAP.
Please also provide the Solution of IAC Forum... in What way it is going to solve this mass issues of Public Interest without making any Platform.
The Ultimate Solution is lying through Parliamentary Process and What are your programs to make it success in that direction.
I am not the suppor of AK but in real an IAC supporter but to support AK is not a insincere act because ultimately if we want to clean the parliamentarians upto some extent then it will enhance our success a little towards Vyavastha Parivartan.
Waiting to your Reply
Girendra Singh
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/18/13, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Arvind Kejriwal, who are you fooling ?
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thursday, July 18, 2013, 8:49 PM

Dear Sant-ji

As they say in the US "read my lips"

The promoters of a) Aam Aadmi Party and b) NCPRI are

(i) ALL
(ii) MASSIVELY FOREIGN-FINANCED

(iii) HARAAMIs

IAC will have nothing to do with them.

IAC is not concerned with "quantity", but is only
interested in "quality" of our members. People who
don't agree with our POV / stringent ethics are strongly
encouraged to leave our forums.

We are also disgusted with weak people who e-mail in to
agree that yes Arvind / AAP etc. "may not" be
clean BUT they are doing "good work" and we should
support them since they are the "best alternative"
from civil society etc. (We get about 5-10 emails like this
everyday) . BULLSHIT. You are either genuine currency
or you are a "nakli" note. There is nothing
in between

Hope this clarifies our position.

Welcome back

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013
at 12:18 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
wrote:

After nearly two months of US trip(for some
intense post-doctoral research work, basically) when I'm
wishing to resume my touch with nationalistic work,I'm
appalled to see our internal bickering amongst virtually
like-minded people/groups on non-core issues(anti-corruption
drive specially).Can't we all decently and
professionally confederate in our struggle against the
anti-national/social elements,who're bent upon wrecking
our socio-economic fabric,and stalling our destined overall
growth?

Can't we list our tasks in some order of priority(like
ABC analysis) and act in a concerted manner? Freedom
fighters,with all their differences,did so in the days of
the yore,with aplomb. Why can't we?
The wicked/evil forces must be musing at our internal
strife.
Is ego coming in the way?I wish an
actual(not virtual) meeting of all leading lights could take
place,in the form of brain storming session,and
a(time-bound) plan of action could be formulated.
Hope and pray we don't fritter away our precious
resources/energies in dealing with trivial issues..
I'm sure the best brains would welcome this idea
and start straight away in hammering out the optimal
solution.s p mathurDGP
(retd)

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