Re: [IAC#RG] DoPT's new Guidelines on suo-moto disclosure.

Our Constitution, our administration policies are drafted in English language after the commencement of Constitution on 26th January,1950.

The Parliament is under the Total Control of English language.

Late Rajiv Gandhi was able to pursuade to get the Translation of Constitution of India in officially in Hindi.

There was an amendment in the Constitution carried out and Article 394-A was inserted forpublication of Hindi

translation in the year 1987/88.

Our present President , Prime Minister are not able to speak Hindi.

 

 

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From: Prodipto Roy <prodipto.r@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] DoPT's new Guidelines on suo-moto disclosure.

Is it possible to get a Hindi version? English is truly foreign to Bihar-Jharkhand officials.

Joya Roy

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Important:

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[IAC#RG] Work for change

अब ये हमें सोचना है कि  इन जैसे नेताओ को झेलते रहे या फैसला करें की अपने बीच  से ऐसे संवेदनशील, जुझारू और देशभक्त लोगों को खोज कर सत्ता की बागडोर सौंपे जिससे देश के कम से कम मूलभूत  सुविधाओं की कमी महसूस न हो !

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Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

I see many post from well meaning persons trying to give suggestions for taking the nation forward with least amount of conflicts and people living in harmony. IT IS AN UTOPIA. We cannot wish away the sway RELIGION has over the people. Also our society has not yet got over the divides caused by CASTE and CREED Way forward may be evolved by wide discussions among various religious heads instead of only the HINDU's just foregoing their identity without others showing any indication of any matching move.I am proud to be a HINDU following SNAAATAN DHARMA and worshipping IDOLS as physical representation of various devis and devtas .

               I am retd defence officer with 35 years of service during which We practised SARVDHARMA and APOLITICAL working. I have studied various religions wherein I have found many similarities. But in civil life I have seen that pamphlets circulated by some religions advocating superiority of their religion over others.Such ONE UPMANSHIP does not facilitate harmony and peace.Unless all mutually evolve a way forward, nothing worthwhile is going to happen.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

I agree . Let us be called as Indian rather than Hindu, Muslim, etc.

Dr N C Jain

17-4-13

 

From: Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

every time a new topic of discourse begins,it may be prudent to see
how directly(and not through some circuitous manner) is it related to
the core objectives of the forum.Meandering and criss-cross dialogues
could hardly serve a good,much less great purpose of the forum.Every
one is,at the end of the day,back to square one.
    spmathur

On 3/29/13, Vijoy Ambasta <vijoy.ambasta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Fellow countrymen
> Let us all define our Indianness instead of a Hindu, Christian, Muslim or
> Sikh. Let us define how an Indian needs to behave or live amicably across
> the length and breadth of the country. Let us get over parochialism and
> regionalism what is good for India has to be good for all areas. When we
> can use one currency , have one Armed Forces for the country, one national
> anthem, one national flag & emblem why do have any alternatives any where.
> Let us stop talking on the terms of religion or caste which will only cause
> our downfall as we have watched for over 50 years.
> ABOVE ALL LET US ALL TAKE PRIDE IN OUR INDIANNESS.
> Vijoy Ambasta
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Deepak Verma
> <deepakmohan.verma@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I don't get this discussion on Defination of Hindu. Our main motive is
>> to fight against CORRUPTION and we are arguing in definations and
>> reading something like number of children per family. and we called it
>> a IDEOLOGY of IAC, I mean just cut the crap please. If I am not wrong
>> then Our main agenda is to fight against curruption not just finding
>> same defination which ,might, create some religion differences in
>> society.
>>
>> OR If any one can please justify that where is the Corruption thing is
>> coming in this discussion then it would be better to understand.
>>
>>
>> On 3/28/13, Varun Khajuria <khajuria.v@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > For god sake dont term "Bharat" Ram hanuman shiva as mythological if u
>> want
>> > to use these terms for sanatan dharm then use these terms for other
>> beliefs
>> > also dont be a hypocrate
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Varun
>> > On Mar 24, 2013 2:29 PM, "Navnith Krishnan" <navkris@hotmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Sarbajit,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You will agree with me that the word Hindu and India are both derived
>> >> from
>> >> the word Sindhu.The Persians  used to broadly refer to those living
>> >> around the River Sindhu as Hindus.Since the river Sindhu or Indus is
>> >> in
>> >> Pakistan,by your theory is it not a fallacy to call our country as
>> India?
>> >> Ofcourse,Bharath is based on the mythological figure,Bharatha,who was
>> >> a
>> >> great Emperor.But this name is recognized by the Constitution of
>> >> India,perhaps to highlight our great cultural heritage.We have enough
>> >> issues already,so why waste time splitting our hairs about India and
>> >> Bharath.Let both unite us.
>> >>
>> >> With regards to number of children,it is not a question of two
>> >> children
>> >> per man or per woman. Why Muslims are allowed to have a separate
>> personal
>> >> law in a so called cecular democracy..Why should they be allowed to
>> >> practice poligamy.Rajiv Gandhi did the biggwest blunder by getting the
>> >> constitution amended to deny a poor Muslim woman alimony.Her rights as
>> an
>> >> Indian citizen was thus denied.Perhaps BJP is the only party demanding
>> >> common civil code.******
>> >>
>> >> *navnith*
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 18:18:54 +0530
>> >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> >> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Navnith
>> >>
>> >> IAC is extremely focussed on 3 and only 3 words which are "India",
>> >> "Against", and "Corruption".
>> >>
>> >> The BJP and Aam Aadmi Party etc is not at all concerned about "India"
>> >> they
>> >> are only concerrnd about some mythical and non-existent "Bharat". The
>> >> only
>> >> party which makes mention of India is the 'Indian" National Congress
>> (and
>> >> we all know how Indian that party is. So please rest assured that IAC
>> >> will
>> >> eventually define "India" in a UNIFYING way which truly makes every
>> >> one
>> >> who
>> >> shall remain in our movement very happy and proud..
>> >>
>> >> Once everyone in IAC becomes an "Indian" (as agreed and accepted) , we
>> >> shall unleash the power of  AGAINST. because that needs hardly any
>> >> definition.
>> >>
>> >> On population control, a simple question you can assist IAC on:-
>> >>
>> >> If a monogamist Hindu family is ever limited to 2 children by law,
>> should
>> >> the family of a polygamist Muslim with 4 wives be limited to 2
>> >> children
>> >> or
>> >> 8 children ?
>> >> ,
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Navnith Krishnan
>> >> <navkris@hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Sarbajit,
>> >> Good, you are in the process of defining and clarifying IAC's
>> ideological
>> >> issues.Perhaps it may make IAC more focussed rather than making it a
>> >> platform for members to comment on every issue under the sun.
>> >> But do you think 'black money' and 'population control' are divisive
>> >> issues which should be frozen?.Do you think corruption is a
>> 'meaningless'
>> >> issue?It looks more like Congress 'ideology'.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *navnith*
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:02:57 +0530
>> >> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Major Sarwara etc.
>> >>
>> >> IAC is now is the process of defining and clarifying certain
>> >> ideological
>> >> issues, and to see thereby which organisations can work with IAC and
>> vice
>> >> versa.
>> >>
>> >> This is not the old IAC where "all good people"  came together on the
>> >> simplistic (and meaningless) issue of corruption, and which old IAC
>> >> collapsed under the weight of its own ideological and egoistical
>> >> contradictions.
>> >>
>> >> This IAC's platform and agenda  is going to be clear, and its stand on
>> >> various issues , including *religion which is a fountainhead of
>> >> corruption in India and is deeply embedded in our political and
>> >> economic
>> >> culture*, will be consistent.
>> >>
>> >> IAC is determined to get as many of the troublesome and divisive
>> >> issues
>> >> frozen before we move forward with our campaign.  Religion is only one
>> of
>> >> them, "black money" is another, "population control" is a third etc
>> >> etc.
>> >>
>> >> We are also encouraging everyone to leave IAC who is not prepared to
>> >> endure this painful learning process, or who has sympathy for the ways
>> of
>> >> the old IAC and its past leaders.
>> >>
>> >>  I'm sorry to be so blunt, but its better to be disillusioned now than
>> to
>> >> be disillusioned later.
>> >>
>> >> It is also a mark of how seriously HRA takes this process that I am
>> >> personally tasked for answering all queries so that there is as little
>> >> deviation as is possible, and since the time with us is so very short.
>> >>
>> >> Since our public list is open, vario0us outside entities are "pinging"
>> >> apolitical IAC through the maliing list to see what we now are and
>> >> where
>> >> we
>> >> stand and where we are going.
>> >>
>> >> Sarbajit
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <vartika.journalist@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Everybody please pay attention to what Major D S Sarvana Very rightly
>> >> said
>> >> ..
>> >> Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> >> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 08:12:52
>> >> To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> >> Reply-To: sarwara.super@gmail.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"
>> >>
>> >> Uf!what crap going on in IAC,every one is trying to show their
>> >> knowledge
>> >> to others on matters not concerned with IAC platform.Useless sub being
>> >> discussed except corruption.Is deviation planned by  vested
>> >> interests?......Major D S Sarwara
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from !DEA
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>> >> Sender: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:11:46
>> >> To: <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
>> >> Reply-To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
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Re: [IAC#RG] DoPT's new Guidelines on suo-moto disclosure.

Is it possible to get a Hindi version? English is truly foreign to Bihar-Jharkhand officials.

Joya Roy

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Important:

http://ccis.nic.in/WriteReadData/CircularPortal/D2/D02rti/Suo_moto_disclosure-15042013.pdf

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Re: [IAC#RG] ELECTION COMMISSION UNWILLING TO ACT

Dear Sarabjit

Have you got any reply from T.S.Krishnamurthy. As he and Lyngdoh were the original brains behind the rigged EVMs racket it will be interesting to read his exact views on Negative Voting and Neutral Voting and if he has denied that EVMs can be rigged. His Saibaba reply is an evasion. All those madrasis ECs were Saibabaists, but T.N.Seshan was certainly the worst of the lot.

SDS

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Navin

I would like to inform you and our other members that I am presently in an email discussion with Mr  T.S.Krishnamurthy, former CEC concerning electoral reforms in the context of an email sent  by one of our subscribers Mr. S D Sharma referring to the ECI's 5.July.2004 D.O. on electoral reforms.

I had conveyed to Mr. Krishnamurthy the sum and substance of Mr. S D Sharma's email

https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/indiaresists/2013-03/msg00082.html

<excerpt>

"Dear Sarbjit

In 2004 the Election Commission had sent a letter to the PMO listing 8 or 10 points for urgent electoral reform. One of these was Negative/Neutral voting. The Hindustan Republican Association had submitted over 1,200 representations asking for the Negative voting as you have described.

The then CEC T.N Krishnamurthy was a pliable fellow who is great believer in Saibaba philosophy. It was arranged that a Writ Petition was filed in the Supreme Court by the PUCL asking for Neutral voting - ie. the Rule 49 O option. Krishnamurthy then clubbed and obfuscated the Negative Voting and Neutral Voting concepts in his report to make it seem that they are one and the same thing.

The Negative Voting -1 Vote concept has to properly explained to IAC's members so that these operators and fixers like Krishnamurthy, who are still in business, are exposed. "

In response Mr. T.S. Krishnamurthy has replied as follows:-

I am not surprised how misinformation takes place in this country!

I am not T.N Krishnamurthy There were M/s T N Seshan & G V G Krishnamurthy who were ardent Saibaba devotees,not me! I don't how that is relevant to our subject!

It is a pity that we Indians are so gullible & accuse the wrong persons

To which I have responded as follows:-

Could you also address the meat of my  subscriber's grievance (a minor error in initials is not worth quibbling over - for instance Mr S D Sharma did not confuse you with Mr. T.V. Krishnamurthy your co-Director in Victoire Consultants (P) Ltd), namely that in the ECI's D.O. of 5.07.2004 sent to Hon'ble Prime Minister later that month under your signature, at point No. 7 on page 14 the issue of Negative Voting / Right to Reject was brushed aside by referring to a PIL collusively filed by the PUCL, and by confusing it with Neutral Voting or 49-O.

IAC's concerned subscriber apparently takes a keen interest in these matters and had made some further claims about you and Mr. Lyngdoh in a subsequent email about rigging of elections through EVM's. and it would be ideal if the air / miasma  is cleared directly.

And am awaiting Mr. TSK's reply, if any.

Now to your problem,

1) Is the Election Commission bound to take note of your suggestions ? How did you represent to the ECI so that they were compelled to consider your suggestions ?

If I read Mr Venkatraman's email below correctly he clearly refers to UNWRITTEN Powers of ECI purportedly residing / inherent (as per him) in the ECI on a fallacious (as per me) reading of "ensuring free and fair elections".

When read in conjunction with what Mr. T.S.Krishnamurthy sent to the PM on 05.07.2004 at Point #3 "Criminalisation of Politics" or suchlike, it is clear that only the Govt can resolve the problem - either by suitable legislation or by Constitutional amendment(s) and the ECI has no role to play on its own.

Sarbajit

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Navin Pandya <navinpandya1954@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Friends,

Election Commission is not discharging its obligatory duties to strengthen Democracy. It has not responded to my suggestions about Democratic Reforms.

Navin Pandya

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:

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                     ELECTION  COMMISSION  UNWILLING  TO  ACT

In response to a submission made to the Election Commission by  Nandini Voice for The Deprived, a Chennai based NGO (www.nandinivoice.org), suggesting  that the Election Commission should use its residual and inherent powers and ban corrupt persons and criminals against whom charges have been admitted in the court from contesting in the election, in its  detailed reply, Election Commission has said vide its letter No. 4/3/2013/SDR/253  dated 22^nd March,2013  amongst various points, the following.

"  In matters which are covered by law, the Commission cannot issue directions contrary to the provisions of the law. In view of the clear provisions laid down in the Act regarding disqualification on the ground for conviction for criminal offenses, the Commission cannot issue directions under Article 324 as sought in your letter".

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By way of reply, another submission was made by Nandini Voice for The Deprived to Election Commission on 29^th March,2013, stating the following amongst various other points.    

1.        Responsibility  and duty of the Election Commission

In your letter, you have extensively discussed about the terms of the law and interpretation of the law by Supreme Court. But, you have not said anything about your duty and responsibility to ensure free and fair polls as enshrined in the Constitution of India.

As you know, the Election Commission is a permanent Constitutional body and  its status and the people's expectations about the Election Commission are totally different from that of the bureaucracy.  Therefore, the Election Commission has to approach any issue with a far sighted and integrated view , as its  functions and decisions  would have far reaching impact on the destiny of the country.  It should not be satisfied merely by quoting  the provisions of an existing law as interpreted and then refrain from taking any actions  to ensure free and fair elections, pleading helplessness.  This would amount to abdication of responsibility and failing to live upto the expectations of the Constitution makers and citizens.

In short, it can be said that just as the Supreme Court, Election Commission is also the conscience keeper of India.  It has the primary task of fulfilling its responsibility to ensure free and fair elections and it should make utmost efforts to undo any obstacles in the way of fulfilling its responsibility as  enshrined in the Constitution.

2.      Inherent  and residual powers

Given the duty and responsibility entrusted to Election Commission by the Constitution  to ensure free and fair elections, the Election Commission should pass appropriate regulations, which should include  the move to ban corrupt persons and criminals from contesting elections against whom charges have been admitted in the court.   Election Commission would lose its importance   and would not be able to fulfil its responsibility, if it simply thinks that it has been vested  with the  responsibility without authority.

2.        Seek the views of Supreme Court :

If the Election Commission thinks that  it cannot do so due to the earlier interpretation of law and verdict given by the Supreme Court in some other circumstances, then it should straightaway take the matter to the Supreme Court and express its views to it and ask the court to clarify whether the Election Commission can go ahead imposing the ban . Supreme Court would certainly give an opportunity to the Election Commission to explain its view points  and the compelling circumstances.   In all probability, Supreme Court would consider the issue threadbare and give its verdict, according due consideration for the views of the Election Commission , which is a  permanent constitutional body.

4.        What Mahatma Gandhi would have thought ?

Perhaps, Mahatma Gandhi would have thought that the Election Commissioners  should resign  if they would face a situation where they  would  be  unable to  conduct  free and fair polls as enshrined in the Constitution and thus failing in their responsibility, due to reasons beyond their control.

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The reply from Election commission to the above points is still awaited ,with the hope that the Election Commission would show the will to act in the interest of the larger good for the country.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice for the Deprived

Email:- nsvenktchennai@gmail.com

 

 

 

 

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Re: [IAC#RG] CIC reserved orders

It seems the person who is only involved with RTI and using office things and doing his/her office duties then even he can be asked about the status of the work given to him / her. Or the person is really aggrieved by his/ her office on the matters asked in RTI.

The office must look into both the aspects and take appropriate Action to avoid compromise on other activities.

Varsha 

On Apr 19, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Dharmendra Kumar Dewan <dsmcho@gmail.com> wrote:

1. Though i have not been active on this link trail, yet the issue of RTI is one such that i may like to seek clarification from learned group members. Can a government official/ Officer use RTI provision to dig into  official working in his/her own office set up, ostensibly to settle some personal scores?   If the answer is 'yes', then can he/she be using the official functioning time & office stationary/computers etc only in these RTI activities all through the day?. Imagine the establishment getting involved in searching for information from old records of decades, leaving the time bound productive activities which are compromised in the process. 

 The RTI Act as i understand was intended to bring relief to the common man in getting relevant information from government department(s) for the common good of the populace & also of the individual concerned without in any way targeting any governmental functionary in particular. I will stand corrected if that is not the case .

2. Another burning issue in the country is on 'Governance'. C

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Col Sood

I suspect you are referring to the matter before IC O.P.Kejriwal where he directed (on grounds of anti-corruption) that immoveable property asset details of HAL officers would be disclosed to an applicant  masquerading as an RTI activist. If so, your suspicion is correct.

Sarbajit

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:43 PM, gopal krishan sood <gsoodk50@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Nidhi,

What Mr Sarbjit has written much of it is true. I have been a PIO of Def CPSU and been a witness to such practices. In fact in one among many such cases  I was summoned by the office of the CIC and before I could sit the IC started dictating his decision. Even after a lot of persuasion to hear me out, he did listen for 45 mins as a formality, but gave the same pre decided ruling which had wider ramification.

Yet on another count there were serious allegation against the IC, too well known to people in those days. 

Rgrds

COL GK Sood 

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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 13:34:23 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: nidhi2479@gmail.com; indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: [IAC#RG] CIC reserved orders

Dear Nidhi

I'm posting this to a mailing list as you requested

From my own experience I can state as follows:-

CIC decisions are reserved when

a) The IC is incompetent and circulates it to his cronies for advise when he gets stuck.

b)  The IC and the Public Authority have predecided the matter before the hearing, but the appellant throws them off course in the hearing and disrupts their well laid plans so they need to reserve it.

c) Open disagreement between the members of a Bench. This happened to in one of my cases (DDA matter) between Wajahat Habibullah and M.L.Sharma, and Mr. Habibullah ended up drafting a bizarre order which resulted in CIC Management Regulations 2007 being struck down in the High Court for his arrogance.

d) IC needs to seek advise of CIC's Legal dept.

e) IC concerned simply hands it over to the "winning side" to draft. I have personally drafted many orders at CIC which were simply brushed up and delivered by them later.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Nidhi Sharma <nidhi2479@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarbajit

I am working on a story on CIC and would appreciate your help and inputs. I have come across a few cases where CIC hears final arguments and reserves its judgements  for months. I was wondering if you have come across the same problem in your interactions with CIC? Or would it be possible for you to put this question across to your googlegroup and see if there are some responses?

Would appreciate your help

Regards

Nidhi

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Re: [IAC#RG] CIC reserved orders

Hello Mr. Sarabjit,

I am sending my article, which was supposed to be published by Dialogue India but due to their problems could not be so published. Besides the article what it contains, I am of the view why CIC takes so much time to send notice to the parties to come together and meet them and discuss within a month or so but it takes more than six months to send notice to the parties who do not furnish the required information.

One more interesting flaw in practical situation is that the PIO and the FAA are of the  same organisation with the result that there is no relief to the Applicant to get the appropriate reply because PIO is junior to 

FAA and as such PIO furnishes the same information which may come from FAA later one and thus wasting and gaining the time of the aggrieved. My suggestion on this account is also incorporated in the article.

If you know some one in good journal or newspaper you can forward it for publication as I have depended on Dialogue India for its publication so far.

With Best Wishes,

Yours sincerely.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Nidhi

I'm posting this to a mailing list as you requested

From my own experience I can state as follows:-

CIC decisions are reserved when

a) The IC is incompetent and circulates it to his cronies for advise when he gets stuck.

b)  The IC and the Public Authority have predecided the matter before the hearing, but the appellant throws them off course in the hearing and disrupts their well laid plans so they need to reserve it.

c) Open disagreement between the members of a Bench. This happened to in one of my cases (DDA matter) between Wajahat Habibullah and M.L.Sharma, and Mr. Habibullah ended up drafting a bizarre order which resulted in CIC Management Regulations 2007 being struck down in the High Court for his arrogance.

d) IC needs to seek advise of CIC's Legal dept.

e) IC concerned simply hands it over to the "winning side" to draft. I have personally drafted many orders at CIC which were simply brushed up and delivered by them later.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Nidhi Sharma <nidhi2479@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sarbajit

I am working on a story on CIC and would appreciate your help and inputs. I have come across a few cases where CIC hears final arguments and reserves its judgements  for months. I was wondering if you have come across the same problem in your interactions with CIC? Or would it be possible for you to put this question across to your googlegroup and see if there are some responses?

Would appreciate your help

Regards

Nidhi

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