Saturday, February 2, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Hindi SE rashtravaad KA sambandh

The issue is not just one of Hindi and Tamil, but the "identity" issue with Dravidian languages and Indo-Aryan languages. - as I got the feeling from some people with heavy identity issues. There is some of this feeling in Maharashtra as well. And to some extent, it is also far more serious, because the economic capital of Mumbai is rapidly resulting in the marginaization of the Marathi language and native speakers. We see this among the Bangladeshis, who rejected the imposed Urdu so strongly, that it was a large part of their wish for freedom.

Being a Maharashtrian, I can speak some for the decline of Marathi from my knowledge. in 1910, we had US typewriter manufacturer offer a typewriter model for Marathi. A century later, Google translate does not cater to this language - in spite of it being it is the 19th most spoken language in the world. It is the official language of Maharashtra, co-official language in Daman and Diu and Dadara and Nagar Haveli, while being unofficially recognized in Goa. It is fourth most spoken in India, with 27 million speakers as of 2001. 

When google translate does not cater to it, most exclusively Marathi readers, or those more comfortable in Marathi have no access to a lot of information. Searching for anything in Marathi yields precious little anything, which is rarely accurate - since Google doesn't support it, it clubs it with Hindi, which does not work. That is a hell of a lot of Indians without access to the wider world. This also ties in with their increasing marginalization in Mumbai. While the Thackerays and their hooliganism is not an answer, the support they get is from the local humiliation at being seen as "ghati" in the place they were born!

These things are very closely related with the abandonment of language. As people with greater access to knowledge spread their horizons, the ones without occupy increasingly less space and power. It is a cyclic thing. Disempowerment marginalizes language, and lack of support for language disempowers further - which suits capitalist interests in Mumbai very well - they mainly operate in English/Hindi. The people are frustrated and cannon fodder for political interests.

Identity and language are closely entwined, and I think imposing languages is as good as colonization. Agree with Justice Katju, that a recommendation is about the most that is gracefully possibe (or advisable).

I agree to some extent that a common language will be useful, but English does serve the purpose to a great extent with the additional bonus of a far larger reach to knowledge. It is possibly the only common linguistic factor India wide - we were all a British colony and learned to operate in English as a result.

That said, I think a far greater concern is the lack of attention to regional languages, which are increasingly dying in importance. Faster in some places, slower in others, but I am not sure if any are actually thriving at all, in terms of growing literature, etc. Maybe Hindi. You have the usual consumer usage - films, newspapers. Where are the great Tagores and Pu La Deshpandes and so on?

It is one of my keenest beliefs that knowledge accessible in the language one speaks naturally is vital for development and intellectual upliftment of people. India wishes to become a superpower. If you look at other superpowers, they operate in the mother tongues of the people of the land - including the internet. US, England, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, China.... all have massive parts of the internet seamlessly usable in their languages. India, the largest democracy in the world does not.

I believe till we can invest heavily in languages, automatic machie-translation competence and such things, we are not going to get the power of advancement and knowledge to most citizens.

So in my view, we should be looking more at getting communication to reach every citizen rather than getting citizens to standardize to one language. We are techonologically advanced enough for this to be possible.

Vidyut

[IAC#RG] Sh.Prem Sabhlok, about your son Sanjeev Sabhlok

Dear Shri Prem Sabhlok (subscriber IAC),

I am writing this email directly  to you, because you wrote an email to me forwarding Sh.Arvind Kejriwal's allegations against Mr.Mukesh Ambani -  to which I replied - to you, and your son Mr.Sanjeev Sabhlok (ex-IAS and now working for Govt. of Victoria, Australia) thereafter engaged in an email exchange with me concerning the allegations against those persons which he later unilaterally published on a website he runs "sabhlokcity.com" casting various aspersion on me.

I have come to know that your son Sanjeev, who was caused to resign from the IAS after a series of incidents spanning over 3 years, and who emigrated thereafter, is now professionally engaged in promoting sales of certain books written by himself and also by you. One of the modus operandi used by your son to promote the sale of your books is to engage in email correspondence with eminent people, harass them and then publish all manner of defamatory, libelous and abusive blogposts about them. Your son regularly does this, it seems, to extort money from them to delete the offensive material from his website.

One of the persons who you and your son Sanjeev  appears to have used this modus operandi on includes Baba Ramdev. After abusing Baba Ramdev as anti-Indian, anti-Hindu, a coward etc, your son accepted an invitation to speak at the Baba's ashram and changed his tack and overnight became his ardent devotee.

http://sabhlokcity.com/2012/10/my-position-on-baba-ramdev-to-clear-the-air-for-everyone/

I note on the said website you refer fairly often to Swami Dayanand's Satyarth Prakash.

I advise you that I am the direct descendant (my grandfather's grandfather) of Pandit Navin Chandra Roy of Lahore, the famous revolutionary, and Hindi Grammarian/scholar who is very widely acknowledged as Punjab's greatest litterateur of that period, and who wrote much this well very known revolutionary book for the Swami. Since you apparently follow the Arya Samaj's Vedic  school of thought, I am sure you would know that my ancestor who founded the Lahore Arya Samaj also initiated the Lion of the Punjab (Lala Lajpat Rai) - please read Lala's autobiography - and was responsible for Lala's revolutionary motivation. My ancestor was also responsible for and coordinated initially the famous revolutionary trio of Lal-Bal-Pal until his demise.

Upon the brutal attack on Lala Lajpat Rai to which he succumbed, the Hindustan Republican Association took root and escalated our freedom struggle to rid India of corrupt foreigners - by all means including violence. India Against Corruption is, and has always been, an initiative of Hindustan Republican Association, with a continuous and unbroken ideology (jahal matavadi) as distinguished from mavalis (or pseudo-revolutionaries).

As the picture is clear, I would therefore urge you to kindly advise your son to stop using my name to promote the sale of your books on your said website. It is pertinent that your son has published that he will not accept emails from me or correspond with me.

with best wishes

Sarbajit Roy
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RE: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Hindi SE rashtravaad KA sambandh

It will be a Himalayan task to persuade a Tamilian in our villages to learn HINDI/or Hindustani . It is not so bad in the cities of Andhra or even Karnataka. But all villagers in south India prefer to send their children to  English medium schools . They do not mind selling all their wealth to ensure good education with ENGLISH as a medium . We will never be able to change this trend as English is becoming popular all over the world . Just imagine the expertise the sports persons  get by very good training to make long speeches in English irrespective of their country of origin.!!   So let us not start interfering with the present trend . The language to be learnt should be left to the parents .    Seshadri

 

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Instead of Hindi, we can implement English... I am in favor of a international language instead of the Hindi only.

 

Sorry, I strongly believe, we should think of going ahead and have a universal code, which can compass the international levels.

 

Regards,

 

Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar

 

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM, <Shehnaz.Tarapore@in.ey.com> wrote:


Sorry to interrupt but I feel the need of Hindi tooo...

DO we all remember the Mangalore Air crash? A very small article was published in the news papers relating to the rescue operations reaching late... Reason being DIFFERENT MOTHER TONGUES on the check post......

Hindi is spoken every where.. Our Partners & Clients speak & learn Hindi first.

Warm Regards,

Shehnaz

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Wow! Rina, Harpal & Col TT,

Good to hear nice views on the language issue.

Here is what I would like to add.
I have been in the Army for 21 years and traveled all over india. Commanded South indian troops (Madras Sappers) , now settled in US and have traveled to Africa, China, Europe, south America and many other places.

First observation is that we should be proud Indians and have one common language ie Hindi. So that as an Indian we don't feel outsider in south or east india.

Also we must learn English to communicate with the outside world. I can see how in US chinese people feel small due to Indian soft ware experts are good in English. One good thing done be Pt Nehru.

Learn at least one more foreign language eg French/Spanish/German etc to have a better reach in the world.

Local language or mother tounge is naturally learned at home but should be taught as third language so that kids can read and write easily.

More languages learned makes kids well rounded person and create /generate curiosity in them to learn other cultures which will make them smarter.

So cheers! Have fun. Learn more as its never enough.

Major Gurjeet Singh
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Friday, February 1, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Hindi SE rashtravaad KA sambandh

Major Gurjeet Singh has made a very valid and relevant point. However, there is a small amendment I would like to make. Hindi as we see and hear on DD and AIR is still predominantly having a Sanskrit flavour to it. Gandhiji had made a very valid observation in the 1930s-1940s, that to bind the country together in one single fabric it is necessary to have a common language. He suggested Hindustani. To illustrate, Hindustani was the language of 'Hindi' films like Waqt, Kanoon, and a host of Bollywood movies made upto the 1970s. I think we ought to interact more in Hindustani, which often passes of as Hindi.This note is just to make that little distinction.
 
Deepak Tralshawala 

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Sorry to interrupt but I feel the need of Hindi tooo...

DO we all remember the Mangalore Air crash? A very small article was published in the news papers relating to the rescue operations reaching late... Reason being DIFFERENT MOTHER TONGUES on the check post......

Hindi is spoken every where.. Our Partners & Clients speak & learn Hindi first.

Warm Regards,

Shehnaz
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From: majorgurjeet@gmail.com
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Wow! Rina, Harpal & Col TT,

Good to hear nice views on the language issue.

Here is what I would like to add.
I have been in the Army for 21 years and traveled all over india. Commanded South indian troops (Madras Sappers) , now settled in US and have traveled to Africa, China, Europe, south America and many other places.

First observation is that we should be proud Indians and have one common language ie Hindi. So that as an Indian we don't feel outsider in south or east india.

Also we must learn English to communicate with the outside world. I can see how in US chinese people feel small due to Indian soft ware experts are good in English. One good thing done be Pt Nehru.

Learn at least one more foreign language eg French/Spanish/German etc to have a better reach in the world.

Local language or mother tounge is naturally learned at home but should be taught as third language so that kids can read and write easily.

More languages learned makes kids well rounded person and create /generate curiosity in them to learn other cultures which will make them smarter.

So cheers! Have fun. Learn more as its never enough.

Major Gurjeet Singh
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: Hindi SE rashtravaad KA sambandh

Instead of Hindi, we can implement English... I am in favor of a international language instead of the Hindi only.

Sorry, I strongly believe, we should think of going ahead and have a universal code, which can compass the international levels.

Regards,

Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar



On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM, <Shehnaz.Tarapore@in.ey.com> wrote:

Sorry to interrupt but I feel the need of Hindi tooo...

DO we all remember the Mangalore Air crash? A very small article was published in the news papers relating to the rescue operations reaching late... Reason being DIFFERENT MOTHER TONGUES on the check post......

Hindi is spoken every where.. Our Partners & Clients speak & learn Hindi first.

Warm Regards,

Shehnaz

Shehnaz Tarapore | FS - BAS| Secretary to Eric Anklesaria, Partner

 

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Wow! Rina, Harpal & Col TT,

Good to hear nice views on the language issue.

Here is what I would like to add.
I have been in the Army for 21 years and traveled all over india. Commanded South indian troops (Madras Sappers) , now settled in US and have traveled to Africa, China, Europe, south America and many other places.

First observation is that we should be proud Indians and have one common language ie Hindi. So that as an Indian we don't feel outsider in south or east india.

Also we must learn English to communicate with the outside world. I can see how in US chinese people feel small due to Indian soft ware experts are good in English. One good thing done be Pt Nehru.

Learn at least one more foreign language eg French/Spanish/German etc to have a better reach in the world.

Local language or mother tounge is naturally learned at home but should be taught as third language so that kids can read and write easily.

More languages learned makes kids well rounded person and create /generate curiosity in them to learn other cultures which will make them smarter.

So cheers! Have fun. Learn more as its never enough.

Major Gurjeet Singh
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[IAC#RG] On addressing the CIC and ICs : Intimation to take action against Shri Basant Seth's order

Dear Shri Sarbajit Roy,

How "Respected" and "Honourable" are these hand-picked in scandalous manner the rogue bureaucrats who have been working solely to save the skin of corrupt, crook and criminal PM like Dr Manmohan Singh, his Ministers and Bureucrats?

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02-Jan-2013

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Respected Sir

The RTI activists and all forces opposed to corruption in India are still greatly agitated that no action has been taken by your good self on our separate emails to you concerning the non-feasance by Shri Basant Seth in his order dated 15.0.2013 in case no.
CIC/SM/A/2012/900133/BS/1683 dated 15.Jan.2013 titled as "Shri Ishan Chunder versus CPIO/EPFO"

We are all collectively concerned and resolved that we have given sufficient time to the Hon'ble Commission to sort out any  inadvertent oversight by Mr. Basant Seth concerning this atrocious order.  However, the same has not been done and the decision still stands on the website of this Hon'ble Commission as an open invitation to be used/cited by every corrupt Department in India which shall simply instruct its First Appellate Authorities  (orally)  not to pass decisions in difficult matters without fear of penalty on them or the CPIO.

Sir, we are giving you clear notice of our intention that should the Central Information Commission not withdraw this now seemingly corrupt order, we shall all combine to make an example of Mr. Basant Seth so that no RTI First Appellate Authority in India dares to follow in his footsteps by such blatant non-feasance and dereliction of statutory duty.

I may mention in passing that Mr. Basant Seth has had a long innings in the public sector financial institutions  immediately proper to joining the Commission where the bulk of the EPFO's funds are invested.

With warm regards

yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption, jan andolan
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi - 110024
Tel : 011-24334262


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
To:
Shri Satyananada Misra ji
Hon'ble Chief Information Commissioner of India
Central Information Commission at New Delhi
August Kranti Bhawan

21-Jan-2013

Respected Sir

URGENT / BY EMAIL

Sub: Order of Mr. Basant Seth in CIC/SM/A/2012/900133/BS/1683 dated 15.Jan.2013 titled as "Shri Ishan Chunder versus CPIO/EPFO"

I am constrained to inform you that the RTI activists all over the country are greatly agitated by the order/decision of Ld. Information Commissioner Mr.Basant Seth in the above cited matter, which is viewed as a blatant attempt to dilute the statutory powers of the Commission with a view to have the CIC closed down or out-sourced to the retired Judiciary.

The activists who were present at the recent CIC Convention clearly recall your opening speech, alluding to the Namit Sharma judgment, where you had mentioned that the Information Commissioners had always possessed the judicial mind, and we therefore view such orders/decisions as occasional aberrations, unless they are allowed to stand.

Accordingly, I would request you to kindly list/discuss this order (and its attendant issues) tomorrow afternoon at the weekly Tuesday meeting, or to refer this matter to a larger Bench and allow all interested persons to intervene.

We are also given to understand that Ld. Information Commissioner Ms. Sushma Singh is also passing similar orders, and there are apparently oral instructions issued to clear the CIC's humungous backlog pending till April 2012 by such despicable anti-citizen methods so as to befool the Parliament when the CIC's Annual Report is drawn up.

I may also mention that the new CIC Rules cannot be applied retrospectively.

With best wishes for the New Year 2013

yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor - India Against Corruption
B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi - 110024
Tel : 011-24334262