My fellow IAC-ians
Tens of Thousands of Americans are queueing up at Amazon to buy a product which they think is the best thing since sliced bread was invented. Its priced at US$ 4.88 shipping included (thats about Rs. 250) for something which we in India can buy for under Rs. 20.
Americans though are not bothered about the price because of the function this little thing does (read through to the end to find out what).
IAC HIGHLY RECOMMENDS this product and suggests that we should legislate it into law for use on all corrupt politicians.
WARNING: As people in the US have choked to death while reading this link (make sure your mouth isn't full) while reading it.
NB: This is a genuine product being brought by real people and the reviews are also real.
Here's the link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047E0EII
Sarbajit
National Convenor,
India Against Corruption., Jan Andolan.
Saturday, December 15, 2012
Re: [IAC++] No "High Commands" in IAC
Dear Mr Sundaresan
Thank you for your inputs.
1) IAC's Ombudsman Mr. Babubhai Vaghela retired as Senior Manager IOCL Ahmedabad.
http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/1364-hi-i-am-babubhai-vaghela-ahmedabad.html
I am quite surprised by your statement that he is not in IOCL retirees list. Babubhai has always represented that he is from IOCL all the way from P&G Ministry to PMO to Cabsec to Rashtrapathi Bhawan to Supreme Court. The gentleman seems to be slipperier than Charles Sobhraj in getting big shots to swallow his stories.
2) I think we should take up OMC issues one by one. We have 50% of all IOCL Retired Officers on this list to help us, and 25% of BPCL's.
3) I always believe in starting off with the small things. For instance the weekly high stakes card sessions a PNG Minister used to hold with the heads of the OMCs (some of whom didn't even know ABC of playing cards). or the 2 wives and 3 mistresses of a former OMC chief and how he used all his official frequent flier miles on different airlines to shuttle them all over the countryside with him (in the name of his wife).
Take care and stick around.
Thank you for your inputs.
1) IAC's Ombudsman Mr. Babubhai Vaghela retired as Senior Manager IOCL Ahmedabad.
http://www.rtiindia.org/forum/1364-hi-i-am-babubhai-vaghela-ahmedabad.html
I am quite surprised by your statement that he is not in IOCL retirees list. Babubhai has always represented that he is from IOCL all the way from P&G Ministry to PMO to Cabsec to Rashtrapathi Bhawan to Supreme Court. The gentleman seems to be slipperier than Charles Sobhraj in getting big shots to swallow his stories.
2) I think we should take up OMC issues one by one. We have 50% of all IOCL Retired Officers on this list to help us, and 25% of BPCL's.
3) I always believe in starting off with the small things. For instance the weekly high stakes card sessions a PNG Minister used to hold with the heads of the OMCs (some of whom didn't even know ABC of playing cards). or the 2 wives and 3 mistresses of a former OMC chief and how he used all his official frequent flier miles on different airlines to shuttle them all over the countryside with him (in the name of his wife).
Take care and stick around.
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Mr Sarbajit Roy,
Thank you for your immediate response and advice. I have not met Mr. Vaghela nor do I find his name in the Retired IOCL Officers' list.
There were and are lot of wrong policies initiated and implemented by both UPA and NDA Govts. on Exploration, Drilling, Production, Refining, Transporting and Marketing Petroleum Products. viz.,
1. Pricing of Petroleum Products viz., Petrol, Diesel, Kerosene and LPG.
2. Constructing Oil Refineries in the Country.
3. Exploration of Crude Oil in the Country.
4. Appointment of Petrol/Diesel Dealers and LPG Distributors (Appointing Politicians, their close kith and kin and their Binamies through Discretionary Quota through a so called Oil Selection Board (OSB) or Dealer Selection Board.(DSB) These Selection Boards are headed by the retired Judges who are very loyal to the Ruling Party with clear instructions to select only Candidates of close kith and kin of Politicians, Central and State Ministers and Bureaucrats (CVC, ED, CBI, IAS etc., etc) The so called selection processes are all farce.
5. During NDA Regime, SC struck down 100s of appointment of Petrol/Diesel Dealers and LPG Distributors due to open glaring favouritism observed in the selection by the Oil Selection Board at the instance of the NDA Regime.
6. UPA I & II are no exception. Similar favouritism in the selection and appointment of Dealers and Distributors are going on. It is not coming to light, since nobody is taking up these cases as questioned by various people between 2000 and 2004. If you look into the credentials of the Dealers and Distributors appointed most of them would be the kith and kin of the Ministers, MPs, MLAs, Political Parties' Presidents, Secretaries, CBI, ED, IAS, IPS, RTOs Commissioner of IT, Central Excise, Custom etc., etc. Those who are not connected with the above, cannot even dream of becoming a Dealer or Distributor.
7. While running the Dealership or Distributorship, they would indulge in all malpractices viz., Adulteration of Petrol and Diesel, short delivery at Nozzle end, Diversion of highly subsidized Domestic Cylinders, overcharging the customers by way of documentation, attending to leak, replacement of leaky cylinders/Pressure Regulators, under weight cylinders, demanding high tips ranging from Rs.15 to 20/- (Delivery charge of Rs.8/ per cylinder is built in, in the RSP fixed by Govt/OMCs. This delivery charge is meant for the Delivery Men to deliver the cylinder at the Customers' premises. But the Distributor will not pass on this to the Delivery Men. They pocket it and pay peanut to the Delivery Men who toil whether it is shining or raining. They pay the Del. Men the Minimum Wage of Rs.1300/- per month fixed in the Labour Act. So the Del. Men demand extra money (tips) from the customers. Not satisfied with the tips collected from the customers, each and every Del. Men divert 1-2 cylinders to Eateries big and small, Caterers, welding and cutting shops for a premium of Rs.250 to 300/- per cyl. daily. Recently, the Govt. increased the Commission to the Distributors by Rs.15/ per cyl which was immediately passed on to the customers.. The total Commission to the Distributors now is Rs.43/ - per cylinder plus Rs.8/- Del. Charge which is also pocketed by the Distributors.
Similarly, in the Petrol/Diesel Pumps (called as "Retail Outlets") also, short filling and adulteration are taking place. Here also, the Pump Boys are very poorly paid and hence, they indulge in all kinds of malpractices in connivance with he Dealers.
WHO IS GOING TO BELL THE CAT IN ARRESTING ALL THESE MALPRACTICES?
Why I narrate all these, is to highlight the wrong policies adopted by the Govts. which ultimately generate corruption in this sector. The gullible customers are taken for granted /ride for all the wrong policies and decisions of the Govt.
THE IAC SHOULD LOOK INTO ALL THESE ASPECTS ALSO, IF IT IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ROOTING OUT CORRUPTION IN THE COUNTRY.
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
Re: [IAC++] No "High Commands" in IAC
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This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (sroy.mb@gmail.com) Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy
Hi Mr Raman
Thanks for correcting me (again)
Sometimes I do tend to get carried away by my emotions. (sorry)
A Hindu is (any-and-every)one who is beyond religion.
Hindustan is any land where people are secular/Hindus(as defined above).
Sarbajit
Thanks for correcting me (again)
Sometimes I do tend to get carried away by my emotions. (sorry)
A Hindu is (any-and-every)one who is beyond religion.
Hindustan is any land where people are secular/Hindus(as defined above).
Sarbajit
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 9:42 PM, J Raman <events@southasianoutlook.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Roy:You are doing great work including responding to all kinds of messages in details.As pointed out earlier in one of my email – in response to your email on use of Army – here in also you are using words that include F***, HARAMIS etc.I don't think that it behoves an organisation and a person of your stature.Please feel free to respond to let the Group know why this 'unparliamentary', gutter and 'uncivic' language is being used – at least second time in two weeks.I am sure you can use better words to express your strong feelings.On another note, does India only include Hindus (your emphasis on the word Hindustan)?Best wishes.J RamanGlobalomMedia.comSouthAsianOutlook.com
Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy
Dear Mr Roy:
You are doing great work including responding to all kinds of messages in details.
As pointed out earlier in one of my email – in response to your email on use of Army – here in also you are using words that include F***, HARAMIS etc.
I don't think that it behoves an organisation and a person of your stature.
Please feel free to respond to let the Group know why this 'unparliamentary', gutter and 'uncivic' language is being used – at least second time in two weeks.
I am sure you can use better words to express your strong feelings.
On another note, does India only include Hindus (your emphasis on the word Hindustan)?
Best wishes.
J Raman
GlobalomMedia.com
SouthAsianOutlook.com
From: Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 4:06 AM
To: iac
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy
Dear Mr. Navnith
This is "India Against Corruption". The keyword is INDIA. The "India" that is not your warped idea of "Bharat-matatvata".
This list is for nationalists and patriots who are fed up with the corruption in India (
which is not Bharat - but is really Hindustan !!).This is "India Against Corruption". The keyword is INDIA. The "India" that is not your warped idea of "Bharat-matatvata".
This list is for nationalists and patriots who are fed up with the corruption in India (
If you cannot understand such basic and elementary things you are most welcome to leave (also known as F***ing Off) the IAC and hie off to nakli forums for hijdas like the AAP. Every message from this group instructs pseudo-secularists how to do so at the very bottom.
It is a fact that Anna is massively foreign financed I don't say so, he himself says on on his website.
Please understand very clearly that PATRIOTS like us will never accept dubious arguments from HARAMIS (possibly like you) that its all very well to take foreign funds to do "good" work in India (also known as conversion of Dalits to Christianity or Islam) . This is the height of nonsense and stupidity. HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE. .. translated in Hindi .. 'naach meri bulbul tujhe paise milega'
Let me also tell you this.
Certain depts of the Govt were investigating Robert Vadra and tapping his phones and investigating his deals for a long time. They were doing this on the direct instructions of Sonia Gandhi herself who was very concerned about her son-in-law and his political ambitions through "Priyanka- now-not-a-Ghandhi" (who is the natural counter-point in Congress to the crown prince Rahul who has no charisma at all.)
The entire Robert-Vadra-DLF so-called expose was a Congress stunt using Kejriwal who is still controlled by Christian Sonia through Christian Aruna Roy (forgot what Christian Diggy says in public - that is only a nautanki) to cut Christian Priyanaka and Christian Robert down to size so that super-Christian Rahul can do "son-shine" as Christian General Secretary in Christian AICC with Christian Anthony and Christian Ambika and Christian YSR and Hindu Francois Gautier and Jean Dreze and so on .
The entire IAC act of Anna, Arvind, Kiran Bedi, Bhushans is scripted between the Congress and RSS who have formed an axis against the BJPand the Left.
"National Convenor'
PS: We are as well aware of corruption/rot in the Armed forces as you are (if not better informed).
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Navnith Krishnan <navkris@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear National Convener,
I do agree with Mr.Malhotra.
I feel Indira Gandhi's ghost has caught up with you in your seeing foreign hand every where.You have nothing else to write other than negatives about every body.Only a man like you can accuse a person like Anna being controlled by foreign funds. Calling Anna a parasite is the height of stupidity.What ever the faults of Anna,Kejriwal and others,next to Subrahmaniam Swamy,they are the people who have done yeoman service in breinging to public attention the loot being carried out by the Italian led Congress and their henchmen.
You should abstain from commenting on people like Gen.V.K.Singh whom you do not know.I write this as an Ex-Army Officer.You are unaware of the level of corruption in the Army. The 'syndicate' started functioning from Gen.JJ Singh's time and continued with Gen Deepak Kapoor. They did not want any body other than from their syndicate to become the Chief to safe guard their interests .Gen.V.K.Singh was an eyesore for trhem.They tried to remove him from the hierarchial list forcing him to agree 1950 as his YOB(another brilliant officer who was much younger and a Sword of Honour winner was superceded to pave way for the present chief).VK is a third generation soldier.Born to a Lt.Col and born in an Army Hospital ,how can there be a controversy about his YOB?The unfortunate part is that he did not get support from ;St.Antony',the so called incorruptible Defence Minister.People did not kbow that Antony is only bothered about his reputation and what his subordinates do is not his concern.He was one of the weakest CMs Kerala has ever seen.During his tenureship as CM,Kerala,he completely surrendered to the communal Muslim League and Christian Kerala Congress.In the ensuing elections Congress lost every parliament seat.Sonia took him to Delhi because of his religion,his cleverly manipulated image of honesty and his mask of lack of ambition.
The army shortages did not start with VK.It was there when JJ was there as well as Kapoor.Your calling Ex-Admirals dubious characters shows your immaturity.
I am getting a torrent of condemnable messages from you. By your irresponsible comments you are doing a great disservice to the fight against corruption.
I would like to delink my self from this mail list.If you can do it kindly do it.
navnith
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Re: [IAC++] No "High Commands" in IAC
dear friends
one thing we should start from begining a new party ticket should be given to who so ever win the internal election of party on popularity basis. no nomination or allotment of seats let there be democracy with in the party irst then we can give democracy to public.
umesh rashmi rohatgi
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one thing we should start from begining a new party ticket should be given to who so ever win the internal election of party on popularity basis. no nomination or allotment of seats let there be democracy with in the party irst then we can give democracy to public.
umesh rashmi rohatgi
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC++] No "High Commands" in IAC
Dear Mr Kalyanam
Certainly we are interested. We agree This entire LPG racket and OMC rackets deserve to be exposed. BUT, you will have to change your approach if you want to work with us.,
1) Our mailing list has no time for long rants.
(please keep your emails short and focused)
2) Focus on the facts.
3) This is not the old IAC of Anna and Kejriwal. We dont know them now, nor do we want to know them.
4) This IAC is not at all interested in Lokpals and Jan Lokpals. These are all fraudie devices to fool the gullible masses.
5) Now there is only 1 IAC group. This one. Our internal watchdog is Mr. Babubvhai Vaghela - formerly with IOCL - Sr Mgr Marketing. You may know of him.
6) This IAC plans to expose the LPG cylinder "subsidy" fraudie mathematics. Inputs of OMC specialists on our list are humbly solicited and shall be respectfully discussed.
Sarbajit
National Convenor - IAC
Certainly we are interested. We agree This entire LPG racket and OMC rackets deserve to be exposed. BUT, you will have to change your approach if you want to work with us.,
1) Our mailing list has no time for long rants.
(please keep your emails short and focused)
2) Focus on the facts.
3) This is not the old IAC of Anna and Kejriwal. We dont know them now, nor do we want to know them.
4) This IAC is not at all interested in Lokpals and Jan Lokpals. These are all fraudie devices to fool the gullible masses.
5) Now there is only 1 IAC group. This one. Our internal watchdog is Mr. Babubvhai Vaghela - formerly with IOCL - Sr Mgr Marketing. You may know of him.
6) This IAC plans to expose the LPG cylinder "subsidy" fraudie mathematics. Inputs of OMC specialists on our list are humbly solicited and shall be respectfully discussed.
Sarbajit
National Convenor - IAC
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:14 AM, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Mr. Baig, I am A.S. KALYANAM, retired from a Public Sector Oil Company. During later part of my Service, I worked as a Manager (LPG Sales) primarily to look after ensuring uninterrupted supply of most essential domestic fuel the LPG. Ensuring uninterrupted supply of highly subsidized Domestic LPG is very difficult due to wide gap in Supply and Demand. The Domestic LPG is very cheap compared to other fuels, due to high subsidy. There will be large scale diversion by unscrupulous/unsocial elements including Domestic Customers who pretend to be genuine. We conduct regular raids mostly the Eateries big and small, most improvised illegal filling units to seize the Domestic cylinders (they illegally procure highly subsidized Domestic LPG cylinders from unscrupulous LPG Distributors and customers and transfer the LPG into Commercial NON-Subsidized cylinders by improvised highly risky/unsafe methods/units) and make huge illegal profits. When we seize the cylinders and file FIR with the Inspector, Civil Supplies (Vigilance) the illegal operators would try to bribe the Officers to Bribe us and if we don't bulge, we will be threatened with dare consequences. Most of us won't bulge to the pressure and file FIR. Similarly, so many customers will approach us for getting new Gas connections(at that time, it was in great demand) additional cylinder i.e. second cylinder, transfer of gas connections in their name purchased illegally, getting re-connection obtained from North Eastern States/Jammu and Kashmir/Hill Stations/Army Canteens (These Canteens are not expected to give new gas connections to Civilians) where it is available "Across the Counter" throughout the year, (These connections cannot be transferred within a year unless it is an official transfer) Fake/Bogus Vouchers, Fake Cylinders/Pressure Regulators. Fake/Bogus MP Coupons/MOP&NG Priority Vouchers etc., etc., approach us for favours. For all these illegal cases, we will have to take serious action against such offenders. The customers will try to Bribe to get their illegal action considered favourably. Normally, we won't bulge and succumb to pressures. Most of the LPG Distributors are politicians or their kith and kin or Binamies. There will be lot of pressure to clear the illegal cases. But we don't succumb to pressures. Similarly, lot of illegal activities going on adulteration of highly subsidized Kerosene with Petrol and Diesel. We used to take lot of action to unearth such clandestine operations risking our life. Take the case of late Shri Manjunath, a very sincere and committed Officer who was killed by Goons/illegal Operators for taking action on adulteration of Petrol. There are so many sincere and committed Officers like Mr. Manjunath risking their life. We can only file FIR against the illegal operators. But, somehow, they get out of the cases by bribing DROs, DSOs, Civil Supplies (Vigilance).Why I narrate all these, even though there were so many opportunities for corruption, but none of us will go with the illegal operators taking Bribe.I am not trying to boost. You may laugh on reading this. But it is a fact. Most of us never demand, receive or give Bribe.We have been witnessing for a quite long time, corruption in each and every departments of Govt. and Private Sector also. In recent times, we are witnessing lakhs of People participate in the IAC Fast and Meetings. Most of them may be working in the Govt. departments or Private Sector. LET ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF IAC ( NOW THERE ARE TOO MANY IAC GROUPS) AND ARVIND KEJRIVAL'S AAP, TAKE A SOLEMN VOW THAT THEY WILL NEITHER DEMAND NOR GIVE BRIBE WHILE DISCHARGING THEIR DUTIES IN THE OFFICE. LET THEM NOT GIVE BRIBE TO GET THEIR PERSONAL JOBS DONE IN ANY DEPARTMENT OF THE GOVT. LET THEM WEAR A VERY CONSPICUOUS BATCH IN THEIR SHIRT DEPICTING THAT THEY ARE AGAINST CORRUPTION. LET THEM PUT A BOARD IN THEIR WORKING TABLE IN THE OFFICE THAT THEY ARE AGAINST CORRUPTION. LET THEM WAIT TILL THEIR TURN COME TO GET THEIR JOB DONE INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING SHORT CIRCUIT METHOD BY BRIBING THE STAFF OR OFFICIALS. IF ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF IAC OR AAP FOLLOW "NEITHER GIVE NOR TAKE BRIBE POLICY" CERTAINLY SIZABLE PERCENTAGE OF CORRUPTION WILL COME DOWN. IF THIS IS FOLLOWED, THERE WILL BE A CONSIDERABLE RELIEF TO THE COMMON MAN. WHILE VOTING IN THE ELECTIONS WHETHER IT IS PANCHAYAT, MUNICIPAL, CORPORATION, ASSEMBLY OR PARLIAMENT, LET THEM NOT VOTE TO THE POLITICIANS WHO DEMAND BRIBE. LET THE IAC FOLLOWERS STOP TAKING BRIBE IN CASH OR KIND, FROM THE CONTESTANTS ON THE EVE OF ELECTIONS. STOPPING CORRUPTION IS IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE.
THE IAC TEAM TRIED THEIR LEVEL BEST TO ENACT JAN LOKPAL BILL. THE RULING UPA DID LOT OF MANOEUVRE NOT TO PASS THE BILL AND EQUALLY THE OPPN. ALSO TRIED TO STALL THE BILL. SO, IT IS A MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, WHEN A STRONG LOKPAL BILL WILL BE PASSED. THE ONLY OPTION IS THAT THE PARLIAMENT SHOULD BE REPRESENTED BY ONLY MPs WHO WANT THAT A STRONG LOKPAL BILL IS PASSED. UNLESS THE IAC IS A POLITICAL PARTY IT CANNOT CONTEST ELECTIONS AND GET ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE PARLIAMENT TO PASS THE LOKPAL BILL. SO, THE DECISION OF ARVIND KEJRIVAL IN FORMING A POLITICAL PARTY TO FIGHT THE CORRUPTION IS THE CORRECT DECISION. ANNA HAZARE AND KIRAN BEDI, SANTHOSH HEGDE AND OTHER IAC MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE AGREED WITH THE ARVIND KEJRIVAL's PROPOSAL OF FORMING A POLITICAL PARTY TO FIGHT THE CORRUPTION WHICH IS THE ONLY OPTION TO REPRESENT THE PARLIAMENT AND GET THE LOKPAL BILL PASSED AS BOTH RULING UPA AND THE OPPN. IS NOT SERIOUSLY INTERESTED TO PASS THE LOKPAL BILL.THE RULING UPA HAS ACHIEVED ITS GOAL OF BREAKING THE IAC MOVEMENT VERY CLEVERLY BY CRATING DIFFERENCES WITHIN THE IAC CADRE. THE UPA IS VERY CLEVERLY FOLLOWING THE BRITISH IDEOLOGY OF 'DIVIDE AND RULE" . BRITISH CAME TO INDIA AS EAST INDIA COMPANY FOR TRADING. CLOSELY OBSERVING THE DIVISIONS IN THE INDIAN PRINCELY STATES, ONE BY ONE THEY BROUGHT THEM UNDER THEIR CONTROL AND MADE INDIA AS BRITISH COLONY. WITH SO MANY DIVISIONS IN INDIA NOW, IT MAY NOT BE SURPRISING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, INDIA MAY AGAIN BECOME A COLONY OF SOME FOREIGN POWER FUELED WITH THE PASSING OF FDI IN RETAIL AND MORE FDI TO FOLLOW AS PER THE POLICIES OF UPA.IF INDIA TO REMAIN AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY, ALL INDIANS SHOULD STOP HATING OTHER RELIGIONS AND BECOME REAL SECULAR NOT BY MERE WORDS, BUT BY DEEDS. RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR. CORRUPT POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO CONTEST ELECTIONS. ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES/MINISTERS INCLUDING PM, PRESIDENT, VP, GOVERNORS, CMs WHO ARE SUSPECTED TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY CORRUPTION CASES, SHOULD BE RECALLED IMMEDIATELY, AND ONLY AFTER THEY ARE CLEARED OF ALL CHARGES, ALLOWED TO REPRESENT THE PANCHAYAT, MUNICIPAL, CORPORATION, ASSEMBLY AND PARLIAMENT. CONSTITUTION SHOULD BE AMENDED TO BAR CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND THEIR KITH AND KIN CONTESTING ELECTIONS. ALL CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND THEIR KITH AND KIN BARRED FOR THEIR LIFE TIME CONTESTING ELECTIONS. ALL THE LIKE MINDED ENLIGHTENED CITIZENS INTERESTED TO ROOT OUT CORRUPTION, SHOULD JOIN HANDS AND WORK TOGETHER INSTEAD OF CREATING RIFT IN THE RANK AND FILE OF THE ANTI CORRUPTION MOVEMENT WHICH WILL ONLY HELP THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS TO DEFECT THE ANTI CORRUPTION MOVEMENT.MORE TO FOLLOW IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM
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Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy
Dear Mr. Navnith
This is "India Against Corruption". The keyword is INDIA. The "India" that is not your warped idea of "Bharat-matatvata".
This list is for nationalists and patriots who are fed up with the corruption in India (
which is not Bharat - but is really Hindustan !!).This is "India Against Corruption". The keyword is INDIA. The "India" that is not your warped idea of "Bharat-matatvata".
This list is for nationalists and patriots who are fed up with the corruption in India (
If you cannot understand such basic and elementary things you are most welcome to leave (also known as F***ing Off) the IAC and hie off to nakli forums for hijdas like the AAP. Every message from this group instructs pseudo-secularists how to do so at the very bottom.
It is a fact that Anna is massively foreign financed I don't say so, he himself says on on his website.
Please understand very clearly that PATRIOTS like us will never accept dubious arguments from HARAMIS (possibly like you) that its all very well to take foreign funds to do "good" work in India (also known as conversion of Dalits to Christianity or Islam) . This is the height of nonsense and stupidity. HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE. .. translated in Hindi .. 'naach meri bulbul tujhe paise milega'
Let me also tell you this.
Certain depts of the Govt were investigating Robert Vadra and tapping his phones and investigating his deals for a long time. They were doing this on the direct instructions of Sonia Gandhi herself who was very concerned about her son-in-law and his political ambitions through "Priyanka- now-not-a-Ghandhi" (who is the natural counter-point in Congress to the crown prince Rahul who has no charisma at all.)
The entire Robert-Vadra-DLF so-called expose was a Congress stunt using Kejriwal who is still controlled by Christian Sonia through Christian Aruna Roy (forgot what Christian Diggy says in public - that is only a nautanki) to cut Christian Priyanaka and Christian Robert down to size so that super-Christian Rahul can do "son-shine" as Christian General Secretary in Christian AICC with Christian Anthony and Christian Ambika and Christian YSR and Hindu Francois Gautier and Jean Dreze and so on .
The entire IAC act of Anna, Arvind, Kiran Bedi, Bhushans is scripted between the Congress and RSS who have formed an axis against the BJPand the Left.
"National Convenor'
PS: We are as well aware of corruption/rot in the Armed forces as you are (if not better informed).
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Navnith Krishnan <navkris@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear National Convener,
I do agree with Mr.Malhotra.
I feel Indira Gandhi's ghost has caught up with you in your seeing foreign hand every where.You have nothing else to write other than negatives about every body.Only a man like you can accuse a person like Anna being controlled by foreign funds. Calling Anna a parasite is the height of stupidity.What ever the faults of Anna,Kejriwal and others,next to Subrahmaniam Swamy,they are the people who have done yeoman service in breinging to public attention the loot being carried out by the Italian led Congress and their henchmen.
You should abstain from commenting on people like Gen.V.K.Singh whom you do not know.I write this as an Ex-Army Officer.You are unaware of the level of corruption in the Army. The 'syndicate' started functioning from Gen.JJ Singh's time and continued with Gen Deepak Kapoor. They did not want any body other than from their syndicate to become the Chief to safe guard their interests .Gen.V.K.Singh was an eyesore for trhem.They tried to remove him from the hierarchial list forcing him to agree 1950 as his YOB(another brilliant officer who was much younger and a Sword of Honour winner was superceded to pave way for the present chief).VK is a third generation soldier.Born to a Lt.Col and born in an Army Hospital ,how can there be a controversy about his YOB?The unfortunate part is that he did not get support from ;St.Antony',the so called incorruptible Defence Minister.People did not kbow that Antony is only bothered about his reputation and what his subordinates do is not his concern.He was one of the weakest CMs Kerala has ever seen.During his tenureship as CM,Kerala,he completely surrendered to the communal Muslim League and Christian Kerala Congress.In the ensuing elections Congress lost every parliament seat.Sonia took him to Delhi because of his religion,his cleverly manipulated image of honesty and his mask of lack of ambition.
The army shortages did not start with VK.It was there when JJ was there as well as Kapoor.Your calling Ex-Admirals dubious characters shows your immaturity.
I am getting a torrent of condemnable messages from you. By your irresponsible comments you are doing a great disservice to the fight against corruption.
I would like to delink my self from this mail list.If you can do it kindly do it.
navnith
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