Tuesday, January 17, 2012

[rti4empowerment] Re: Paying the price for seeking info?

Hello Sir,
Thanks for the suggestions.  Well, how many people staying in the same area will come forward and get involved in police hassles, tell me?  I guess that one can form a group from different localities, but not from the same locality.

CHEERS!


On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:16 PM, TANIAPPA VIDYADHAR <tvidya1939@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
I congratulate for the efforts of Prasanna . As a whistle blower he is doing a great job.
One suggestion I have for him is that he should join hands with like minded folks of the area so that the guys also get scared of the united Team. I too was threatened by goondas when I ensured closure of a Hotel in residential area . But the guys know that I have the backing of RWA, Federation etc. Just a suggestion.
T.Vidyadhar 

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Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 7:53 PM
Subject: Paying the price for seeking info?

Paying the price for seeking info?
 
Prasanna has been slapped with two cases for using the RTI Act to know the status of neighbour's property at JP Nagar
 

RTI activists in the national capital are raising their voice against the increasing number of false cases being filed against whistle blowers. And the ugly trend is catching up here too. R V Prasanna, a software consultant from Rajajinagar II block, is facing the wrath of the authorities and fighting court cases apart from living under threat — all for filing an RTI application to unearth the fact that his neighbour had illegally used a residential building for commercial purpose.
  
 After his stint abroad, Prasanna, came down for good to settle in Bangalore and live with his aging parents. All was well till the neighbouring building was sold. The new buyer demolished the structure and constructed a new one for commercial use. It was rented out for offices and huge bill boards were displayed. Fed up with the constant noise and vehicles parked haphazardly by people visiting the neighbouring shops, Prasanna filed an RTI application with the BBMP in 2008-09 to know the nature of the land use. BBMP's reply revealed that the land was meant for residential use.
   
The 38-year old says, "Then began all the problems. Taking note of my RTI application, the BBMP issued a notice to the building. The building owner got furious with me and started harassing me and my parents. Some rowdy elements tried breaking our main door, smashed the window panes and damaged our property. Unable to bear the harassment, my father died. The owner also filed a case against me.''
  
His 53-year old mother Bhagya narrates, "Garbage is thrown into our compound. Eggs are thrown at our walls. I am followed everywhere and our house is always under watch." Then came the worst part. When Prasanna pursued the building case and sought to inspect property tax files, the Karnataka Information Commission ordered the BBMP revenue officer to fulfil the petitioner's request.
   
On October 28, 2011, when Prasanna went to inspect the files and asked for certified copies, Rajajinagar assistant revenue officer L Lakshmamma refused to furnish the copies. This led to arguments. When he began questioning the officials, the ARO filed a harassment case against Prasanna complaining that he abused her and threatened to kidnap her.
   
Prasanna says, "When she refused to give me certified copies, I started arguing with her. The next day, a harassment case was filed against me stating that I threatened to kidnap her."
   
When contacted, Lakshmamma bluntly said: "He was not satisfied with the papers (read documents) that we gave him and kept on asking us to provide more information. So I filed the harassment case and my colleagues are the witnesses. If people come for file inspection and obstruct us at work, we will file a harassment case.''
   
Fighting two cases simultaneously and in between attending KIC hearings and handling the enemies in his backyard, Prasanna still doesn't want to give up. Veteran RTI activist M V K Anilkumar of KRIA Katte says, "Prasanna is being harassed for no fault of his. This is another way of punishing RTI activists. The powerful lobby of builders, officials, local politicians and police, is making it difficult for genuine RTI activists to work. They are being falsely implicated in police cases. "

==
Take care,
Regards,
B.R.V. Prasanna (Bangalore Raju Venkatesh PRASANNA)/ Rakesh;
from Bangalore (Karnataka State)




[rti4empowerment] Paying the price for seeking info?

Paying the price for seeking info?
 
Prasanna has been slapped with two cases for using the RTI Act to know the status of neighbour's property at JP Nagar
 

RTI activists in the national capital are raising their voice against the increasing number of false cases being filed against whistle blowers. And the ugly trend is catching up here too. R V Prasanna, a software consultant from Rajajinagar II block, is facing the wrath of the authorities and fighting court cases apart from living under threat — all for filing an RTI application to unearth the fact that his neighbour had illegally used a residential building for commercial purpose.
  
 After his stint abroad, Prasanna, came down for good to settle in Bangalore and live with his aging parents. All was well till the neighbouring building was sold. The new buyer demolished the structure and constructed a new one for commercial use. It was rented out for offices and huge bill boards were displayed. Fed up with the constant noise and vehicles parked haphazardly by people visiting the neighbouring shops, Prasanna filed an RTI application with the BBMP in 2008-09 to know the nature of the land use. BBMP's reply revealed that the land was meant for residential use.
   
The 38-year old says, "Then began all the problems. Taking note of my RTI application, the BBMP issued a notice to the building. The building owner got furious with me and started harassing me and my parents. Some rowdy elements tried breaking our main door, smashed the window panes and damaged our property. Unable to bear the harassment, my father died. The owner also filed a case against me.''
  
His 53-year old mother Bhagya narrates, "Garbage is thrown into our compound. Eggs are thrown at our walls. I am followed everywhere and our house is always under watch." Then came the worst part. When Prasanna pursued the building case and sought to inspect property tax files, the Karnataka Information Commission ordered the BBMP revenue officer to fulfil the petitioner's request.
   
On October 28, 2011, when Prasanna went to inspect the files and asked for certified copies, Rajajinagar assistant revenue officer L Lakshmamma refused to furnish the copies. This led to arguments. When he began questioning the officials, the ARO filed a harassment case against Prasanna complaining that he abused her and threatened to kidnap her.
   
Prasanna says, "When she refused to give me certified copies, I started arguing with her. The next day, a harassment case was filed against me stating that I threatened to kidnap her."
   
When contacted, Lakshmamma bluntly said: "He was not satisfied with the papers (read documents) that we gave him and kept on asking us to provide more information. So I filed the harassment case and my colleagues are the witnesses. If people come for file inspection and obstruct us at work, we will file a harassment case.''
   
Fighting two cases simultaneously and in between attending KIC hearings and handling the enemies in his backyard, Prasanna still doesn't want to give up. Veteran RTI activist M V K Anilkumar of KRIA Katte says, "Prasanna is being harassed for no fault of his. This is another way of punishing RTI activists. The powerful lobby of builders, officials, local politicians and police, is making it difficult for genuine RTI activists to work. They are being falsely implicated in police cases. "

==
Take care,
Regards,
B.R.V. Prasanna (Bangalore Raju Venkatesh PRASANNA)/ Rakesh;
from Bangalore (Karnataka State)

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Sunday, January 15, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Properties of Political Parties

Some lawyer/tecnocrat could contact me.I'll try to help in addressing the issue well.
s p mathur IPS DGP retd
BE MBA PhD
9841282324 

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:54 PM, <jsdpani@gmail.com> wrote:
Idea is welcome.One should start working on it.
Political parties no more remained as pre independence parties.They are no lesser than large corporate houses and every politician is a buisiness house. The commodity traded is "public service".
Regards
JSD Pani
Karnataka RTI Federation
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Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:54:22 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [HumJanenge] Properties of Political Parties

By now the political parties in India might have  accumulated more wealth by movable and immovable properties. In the name of Trusts etc.,

Will any activists collect the details of this properties in last five years IE the properties in 2000, 2005 and 2010 and 2012., method of collection who is the largest contributor, does any politician or party bought immovable properties abroad in the name of trust, the activities of the trusts owned by the political parties, and these trusts, how it helped the society etc.

Of-course this is a long process and it may take a year or two.

If some one bring the clear picture that will give a opinion about the so called public servants to the innocent public, who hopes that the rulers and would be rulers will do good for them

[HumJanenge] CIC to list all pending cases on website

CIC to list all pending cases on website

NEW DELHI: With complaints of arbitrariness in hearing of cases piling up, the Central Information Commission last week began listing out pending cases before each commissioner on its website. Cases pending before chief information commissioner Satyananda Mishra and information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi have already been uploaded while the other commissioners are likely to follow soon. This is the first time that an information commission has displayed at least a partial list of cases pending before it.

Speaking about the move, Mishra said, "This is an added advantage to the public. Other commissioners will also put up their list of pending cases but we have not set a time frame." CIC has a pendency of 22,000 cases with about 2,500 cases added every month.

The decision was prompted by an RTI application that sought information on the status of a case filed a year ago. Information commissioner Shailesh Gandhi said that in replying to the decision, the commission realized that the case was over a year old and was inadvertently left out of the cause list.

"I realized that if a mistake had been made in one case, it could have been made in some others as well. A careful search of 2010 cases revealed another 110 cases which had been forgotten and missed completely," Gandhi said.

In fact, one of the cases related to the widow of a government employee and her struggle to get pension that only ended 17 years later.

The 'List of pending cases' has been displayed on the CIC website and will be updated every month. Gandhi said, "CIC is only six years old and this will be an opportunity for us to correct mistakes and also reassure citizens that there is fairness in taking up their cases. In most commissions and judicial bodies, citizens suspect arbitrariness and corruption in the listing of cases. The simple act of listing all pending cases publicly will go a long way in restoring citizens' confidence in these institutions, and also act as self- regulating check."

Re: [HumJanenge] Properties of Political Parties

Include Leased Properties for thier offices & trusts which are got at very low Rates as Compared to Prevailing Market rates

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

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From: jsdpani@gmail.com <jsdpani@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Properties of Political Parties
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 15 January, 2012, 11:54 PM

Idea is welcome.One should start working on it.
Political parties no more remained as pre independence parties.They are no lesser than large corporate houses and every politician is a buisiness house. The commodity traded is "public service".
Regards
JSD Pani
Karnataka RTI Federation
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

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Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:54:22 +0530 (IST)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com<humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HumJanenge] Properties of Political Parties

By now the political parties in India might have  accumulated more wealth by movable and immovable properties. In the name of Trusts etc.,

Will any activists collect the details of this properties in last five years IE the properties in 2000, 2005 and 2010 and 2012., method of collection who is the largest contributor, does any politician or party bought immovable properties abroad in the name of trust, the activities of the trusts owned by the political parties, and these trusts, how it helped the society etc.

Of-course this is a long process and it may take a year or two.

If some one bring the clear picture that will give a opinion about the so called public servants to the innocent public, who hopes that the rulers and would be rulers will do good for them