Thursday, December 30, 2010

[HumJanenge] Statement on the Saxena Committee Report on the Forest Rights Act


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From: Campaign for Survival and Dignity <forestcampaignnews@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Subject: Statement on the Saxena Committee Report on the Forest Rights Act
To: forestcampaign@gmail.com


Friends,

The controversial Saxena Committee on the Forest Rights Act has submitted its report, which has finally been made public. We know that this report will be projected as pro-people and pro-rights. But this report will be most useful to those who set it up – a Ministry and a forest bureaucracy1that wants more power, while presenting a facade of being sensitive and pro-people. Here are some reasons why.

Regarding the implementation of the Act, the Committee has endorsed what we and others have been pointing out for a long time. It points out the problems in rights recognition, recommends action against illegal evictions, and calls for recognition of community rights, coming to the same conclusions as the Council for Social Development report and what the movements have been saying. It identifies the forest bureaucracy as a major problem. In itself, this is welcome. But when it comes to what should be done about these problems, and especially about MoEF and the forest bureaucracy, the report falls apart.


On the Environment Ministry: The Committee's recommendations target everyone except the Environment Ministry, the Central agency most responsible for policies in violation of the Act. Out of eleven pages of findings in chapter 11, MoEF's actions are covered in half a page. The most dangerous of these actions (click here to know more) - illegal forest diversion for corporate projects; rapidly expanding afforestation and "conservation" programs with enormous potential for land grabbing and conflict; and the huge sums of money being deployed for this - are barely touched in the recommendations. The chapter on development projects admits "some clearances" were illegal. But there has not been a single case where the Ministry has complied with the law on diversion, and the Committee neither recommends cancellation of illegal clearances nor justice for those whose rights have been illegally violated. There are no recommendations on afforestation, except for vague statements that policies should be "reviewed" and should "respect the FRA." Whose job is it to review these illegal actions, if not this Committee?


On Joint Forest Management: The Ministry's current favorite program - Joint Forest Management (click here to know more) – is being expanded across the country and is a major tool in the Forest Department's efforts to block communities from managing forests or exercising rights. It is condemned in the first half of chapter 8 of the report and in one part of the recommendations; but other parts say it should continue in most areas and even that it has "advantages." Then, the "alternative recommendations" (signed by half the members of the Committee) condemn it again. Thus the Ministry can do pretty much anything on JFM and still claim the Committee's endorsement.


On "redefining forest governance": On this issue – which was said to be the Committee's raison d'etre - the report says that the status quo of Joint Forest Management and Forest Department supervision should continue in the vast majority of forest areas (those where communities do not file formal claims for community forest resource rights). The "alternative recommendations" say there should be changes, but agree that there is no legal requirement for them (they would need "a new statute or amendment of existing statutes"). This is the escape clause the forest authorities have been looking for. After the structure of the Forest Department has been identified as being the single biggest reason for the failure to respect the law, when even the Home Secretary has attacked their zamindari attitude and abuse of power, the committee legitimises the status quo until there is a "new statute or amendment of existing statutes". This is a total misreading of the law and a backpedaling on the most crucial issue in forest areas today.

Riddled with other contradictions: On non-timber forest produce, crucial to people's livelihoods, the report identifies many problems, but then only says free sale should be permitted – while advocating continuation of other existing structures, which numerous government reports have condemned (the "alternative recommendations" disagree). Satellite imagery (currently a major tool for rejections) is endorsed and celebrated as a mode for verifying rights in one section, which however also contains one sentence admitting it "cannot verify the existence of any right under the Act" (p. 66). On whether or not people should be removed from wildlife habitats, the report advocates two diametrically opposed views in the same paragraph (p. 131), one of which is called "dissenting" - but is in the main text. After describing critical tiger habitat notifications as "in violation of the Act", once again it only recommends a "review" (p. 217).

In sum, the report is a mishmash that permits the Environment Ministry to do what it pleases, and still to claim the mantle of being pro-people. Indeed, almost any point raised in favour of people can be contradicted by citing some other part of the report.

When the Campaign was invited to join this Committee, we declined for precisely this reason. It is not the findings of government committees that matter, but whether and how they can be used by the powers that be. The nature and constitution of this committee, as reflected in its report, lent themselves to precisely such manipulation. We can be sure that all the ambiguities and contradictions in this report will be exploited to the fullest extent, even as the positive points it raises will be quietly discarded except where they serve the establishment's interests.

The struggle in forest areas is today reaching a pitch where the Central government is on the back foot. Whether in Vedanta and POSCO, or in the hellholes of Operation Green Hunt, or in the anti-dam movements of the Northeast, we see people resisting a brutal machine that respects neither law nor life. The forest bureaucracy is one crucial cog in that machine. Let us not permit it to clothe itself in the language of rights and hide its true face.

Campaign for Survival and Dignity

9873657844, www.forestrightsact.com

1 The fiction of a "joint committee" does not require much attention. This "joint committee" includes six forest officers, one of whom is co-chair, as against one Tribal Ministry representative. Meanwhile, as the report itself describes, this "joint committee" was first notified by the Environment Ministry alone, which then roped in the Tribal Ministry after criticism. In August, the Tribal Minister chose to write to the Environment Minister to complain about the Committee's functioning, not to the chair, showing who actually controls the Committee. Finally, the report itself declares that the Tribal Ministry member "hardly attended the meetings of the Committee, nor sent his representative." The "joint committee" fiction was just the result of pressure from the Environment Ministry on an apathetic and weak Tribal Ministry, in order to escape the charge of exceeding its mandate.






[HumJanenge] Re: APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

Dear Guptaji

From where did you form the opinion (or receive information) that the committee of 12(3) is a SELECTION committee.

Your entire request is founded on the false premise that it is a selection committee.

Sarbajit


On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

For context, copy of RTI application (I have deleted my Residential address and phone number). 

 

The Central Public Information Officer,

C/o. Secretary,

Deptt. of Personal and Training,

New Delhi.

6.10.2010.

Sub: Information under RTI Act, 2005 – Selection of Chief Information Commissioner.

 

Respected Sir,

 

Kindly provide the following information on the selection of Chief Information Commissioner under RTI Act, 2005:

1.                 Names of the members who attended the meeting of the Selection Committee.

2.                 Date, time and venue of the meeting.

3.                 Names of the short-listed candidates considered for the post.

4.                 Whether the short listing and selection criteria would be made public by putting the same on the Deptt. website or by any other means.

5.                 Kindly provide a copy of the proceedings/minutes of the Selection Committee   Meeting.

B.       If some part of the solicited information does not belong to your Department, I request you to transfer that part to the concerned Public Authority u.s. 6(3) of the Act.

C.       I am enclosing a postal order for Rs. 10/- numbering 88E 389218 dated 30.9.2010 issued from the Dwarka Post Office.

Yours faithfully,

 

 

(Mahendra Kumar Gupta)

 

 




From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 30 December, 2010 8:39:33 AM

Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

Dear WEDS

1) The specific point you are making is?
2) In what context ?

Sarbajit

PS: So far none of what you have said can be applied to Mr Gupta's case.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:59 AM, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear M.K.Gupta & others,
 
Please read section 4(c&d) of RTI Act 2005.
 

(c)

 publish all relevant facts while formulating important policies or announcing the decisions which affect public;

(d)

provide reasons for its administrative or quasi-judicial decisions to affected persons.

& remember,
 

PREFACE

 

Constitution is a living document, an instrument which makes the government system work
Premble,

WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly

resolved to constitute India into a 1[SOVEREIGN

SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC] and

to secure to all its citizens:

JUSTICE, social, economic and political;

LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and

worship;

EQUALITY of status and of opportunity;

and to promote among them all

FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual

and the 2[unity and integrity of the Nation];

IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twentysixth

day of November, 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT,

ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS

CONSTITUTION.

 

RTI Act 2005, Section 8(i), ultimate line reads as follows:

 

Provided that the information which cannot be denied to the Parliament or a State Legislature shall not be denied to any person.

 

1.    From this you would agree that the People of India have installed the Constitution of India & the Government therewithin to themselves & to govern them. Hence, in Democracy, the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF THE PEOPLE & FOR THE PEOPLE.

 

2.    Hence, the Government & all its functionaries are accountable & answerable to the People of India. Hence, the People of India have a right to question the Government that they have installed within the framework of the Constitution on its acts & omissions. This is otherwise known as the Right to Information.

 

3.    This Right to Information of the People of India is inalienable, axiomatic, fundamental as well as human right . This has been reaffirmed by the Supreme Court of India as a fundamental right forming a facet of Art. 19 (1)(a) of the Constitution of India. Read 6 above.

 

4.    To access, seek, receive & impart information is a Human Right (HR), as per Article 19 of The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) that was adopted by the General Assembly of The United Nations on the 16th December 1966, as cardinal principles of Human Right, embodied in The Protection of Human Rights Act 1993 section 2(d) & (f) forming a facet of Art. 21 Part III, Fundamental Right (FR) i.e. Right to life & Liberty, of the Constitution of India.

5.    Freedom of Information lies at the root of the rights discourse. Failure of the State to provide access to information or State suppression of information can lead to the most egregious forms of human rights violations. The Right to Information (RTI) is fundamental to the realisation of rights as well as effective democracy, which requires informed participation by all.

 

 

Regards,

WEDS



From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 29 December, 2010 13:23:21
Subject: [rti4empowerment] APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

By filing an RTI, I asked from the DoPT names of short-listed candidates considered for the post of Chief Information Commissioner and whether the short listing and selection criteria would be made public.

 

On filing the first appeal, Shri Anuradha S. Chagti, Dy. Secy. & First Appellate Authority has informed that no documents are available on these points and an appeal against this order of FAA can be made to the CIC.

 

It seems that only one name was considered at the time of appointing Shri A N Tiwari as CCIC or the DoPT has taken a decision to appoint the Senior Most IC as CIC and / or only one name was considered.

 

What next?  Views of activists are request whether second appeal is desirable on the two aforesaid issues.







Re: [rti4empowerment] APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

Dear Guptaji

From where did you form the opinion (or receive information) that the committee of 12(3) is a SELECTION committee.

Your entire request is founded on the false premise that it is a selection committee.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

For context, copy of RTI application (I have deleted my Residential address and phone number). 

 

The Central Public Information Officer,

C/o. Secretary,

Deptt. of Personal and Training,

New Delhi.

6.10.2010.

Sub: Information under RTI Act, 2005 – Selection of Chief Information Commissioner.

 

Respected Sir,

 

Kindly provide the following information on the selection of Chief Information Commissioner under RTI Act, 2005:

1.                 Names of the members who attended the meeting of the Selection Committee.

2.                 Date, time and venue of the meeting.

3.                 Names of the short-listed candidates considered for the post.

4.                 Whether the short listing and selection criteria would be made public by putting the same on the Deptt. website or by any other means.

5.                 Kindly provide a copy of the proceedings/minutes of the Selection Committee   Meeting.

B.       If some part of the solicited information does not belong to your Department, I request you to transfer that part to the concerned Public Authority u.s. 6(3) of the Act.

C.       I am enclosing a postal order for Rs. 10/- numbering 88E 389218 dated 30.9.2010 issued from the Dwarka Post Office.

Yours faithfully,

 

 

(Mahendra Kumar Gupta)

 

 




From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 30 December, 2010 8:39:33 AM

Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

Dear WEDS

1) The specific point you are making is?
2) In what context ?

Sarbajit

PS: So far none of what you have said can be applied to Mr Gupta's case.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 3:59 AM, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear M.K.Gupta & others,
 
Please read section 4(c&d) of RTI Act 2005.
 

(c)

 publish all relevant facts while formulating important policies or announcing the decisions which affect public;

(d)

provide reasons for its administrative or quasi-judicial decisions to affected persons.

& remember,
 

PREFACE

 

Constitution is a living document, an instrument which makes the government system work
Premble,

WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA, having solemnly

resolved to constitute India into a 1[SOVEREIGN

SOCIALIST SECULAR DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC] and

to secure to all its citizens:

JUSTICE, social, economic and political;

LIBERTY of thought, expression, belief, faith and

worship;

EQUALITY of status and of opportunity;

and to promote among them all

FRATERNITY assuring the dignity of the individual

and the 2[unity and integrity of the Nation];

IN OUR CONSTITUENT ASSEMBLY this twentysixth

day of November, 1949, do HEREBY ADOPT,

ENACT AND GIVE TO OURSELVES THIS

CONSTITUTION.

 

RTI Act 2005, Section 8(i), ultimate line reads as follows:

 

Provided that the information which cannot be denied to the Parliament or a State Legislature shall not be denied to any person.

 

1.    From this you would agree that the People of India have installed the Constitution of India & the Government therewithin to themselves & to govern them. Hence, in Democracy, the Government is defined as A GOVERNMENT BY A PEOPLE; OF THE PEOPLE & FOR THE PEOPLE.

 

2.    Hence, the Government & all its functionaries are accountable & answerable to the People of India. Hence, the People of India have a right to question the Government that they have installed within the framework of the Constitution on its acts & omissions. This is otherwise known as the Right to Information.

 

3.    This Right to Information of the People of India is inalienable, axiomatic, fundamental as well as human right . This has been reaffirmed by the Supreme Court of India as a fundamental right forming a facet of Art. 19 (1)(a) of the Constitution of India. Read 6 above.

 

4.    To access, seek, receive & impart information is a Human Right (HR), as per Article 19 of The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) that was adopted by the General Assembly of The United Nations on the 16th December 1966, as cardinal principles of Human Right, embodied in The Protection of Human Rights Act 1993 section 2(d) & (f) forming a facet of Art. 21 Part III, Fundamental Right (FR) i.e. Right to life & Liberty, of the Constitution of India.

5.    Freedom of Information lies at the root of the rights discourse. Failure of the State to provide access to information or State suppression of information can lead to the most egregious forms of human rights violations. The Right to Information (RTI) is fundamental to the realisation of rights as well as effective democracy, which requires informed participation by all.

 

 

Regards,

WEDS



From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 29 December, 2010 13:23:21
Subject: [rti4empowerment] APPOINTMENT OF CCIC

By filing an RTI, I asked from the DoPT names of short-listed candidates considered for the post of Chief Information Commissioner and whether the short listing and selection criteria would be made public.

 

On filing the first appeal, Shri Anuradha S. Chagti, Dy. Secy. & First Appellate Authority has informed that no documents are available on these points and an appeal against this order of FAA can be made to the CIC.

 

It seems that only one name was considered at the time of appointing Shri A N Tiwari as CCIC or the DoPT has taken a decision to appoint the Senior Most IC as CIC and / or only one name was considered.

 

What next?  Views of activists are request whether second appeal is desirable on the two aforesaid issues.






Re: [HumJanenge] reg sedition

I could not but agree with you that "Transparency International" is a most corrupt institution.

best wishes

Sarbajit

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 10:06 PM, K N Jagadesh kumar <jkgroup999@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear sarbjit Roy
The below statement is 100%
"Transparency International the police and judiciary are the most corrupt institutions in this country which in turn is one of the most corrupt in the whole world. "
Now
"its shame to talk-Crime to express"
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dwarakanath /group

I dont know in what context this definition has been uploaded, perhaps it refers to PMK's warnings in Binayak' Sens' discussions

I surmise that PMK is concerned about members like Major Ravi who were similarly jailed for their utterances and now go about posting pro-Maoist comments on various unmoderated blogs and RTI groups purporting to be written to Constitutional Officers. To illustrate such utterances
http://iesmorg.blogspot.com/2010/06/views-of-maj-pm-ravindran.html

"This letter is a deliberate effort in that direction. The only other option available to me is to pray that the naxalites and maoists chose their targets correctly whenever they decide to strike because the other options- approaching the police or the judiciary- is beyond the pale of ordinary mortals in this country. It is pertinent to recall that as per the survey results of Transparency International the police and judiciary are the most corrupt institutions in this country which in turn is one of the most corrupt in the whole world. "

We don't need a police officer like Amitabh Thakur, IPS to see that such statements would otherwise directly fall under definition of sedition you have uploaded except for the fig-leaf of its purportedly being written to a Chief Minister,

Sarbajit


On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends, I reproduce below the definition of 'sedition' under the Indian Penal Code. for information:
  124-A:   Sedition – whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by signs or by visible representation, or otherwise, brings or attempts to bring into hatred or contempt, or excites or attempts to excite disaffection towards, the Government established by law in India, shall be punished with imprisonment for Life, to which fine may be added, or with imprisonment which may extend to three years, to which fine may be added, or with fine.  [explanation-1- The expression "disaffection" includes disloyalty and all feelings of enmity, Explanation 2- Comments expressing disapprobation of the measures   of the Government with a view to obtain their alteration by lawful means, without exciting or attempting to excite hatred, contempt or disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.  Explanation 3- Comments expressing disapprobation of the administrative or other action of the Government without exciting or attempting to excite hatred, contempt or disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.




--
K N Jagadesh Kumar
9845500932
jkgroup999@gmail.com


Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: Rx for “Lost file” excuse by Government departments: Public Records Act

Dear Victor

1) Kindly do not cross-post messages. After 24 hours the group management will be terminating members who cross post.

2) Krishnaraj Rao does not possess a true copy of the PR Act. The "real" version can be found here (published by the National Archives u/s 4)
http://nationalarchives.nic.in/writereaddata/html_en_files/html/public_records93.html

3) Section 9 of the Act in this version (not 10 as he claims) reads as follows:

"Whoever contravenes any of the provisions of section 4 or section 8 shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years or with fine which may extend to ten thousand rupees or with both. "

Section 4 deals with taking records out of India without permission
Section 8 deals with destruction or disposal of records.
(Rule 9(4) specifies that destruction is to take place by burning / shredding in the presence of the records office,  "disposal" has not been prescribed)
www.sdobishnupur.in/Acts%20and%20Rules/Dictionery/1654.pdf

The case of "lost" records is therefore not covered under this penal clause at all.
Furthermore nowhere in the Act is it specified that the offences are "cognisable" and that a FIR can be registered or how/who has to register it.

Lastly I may mention, that this scheme of FIR under Public Records Act was repeatedly used by a corrupt IC, but on my formal complaint to the CCIC (not Mr Habibullah) the corrupt practice of issuing FIRs for cash seems to have stopped.

THE MORE RTI EGROUPS LIKE OURS ARE ALLOWED TO BE MISUSED BY THE LIKES OF KRISHNARAJ RAO, THE MORE THE CORRUPT ICS WILL BE EMBOLDENED TO PERPETUATE THEIR CORRUPTION.

Sarbajit


On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote:


--- On Thu, 12/30/10, Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>
Subject: [rti4empowerment] "Lost file" excuse? Get FIR against Records Officer using these sections of Public Records Act
To: rti-forum-for-instant-information-@googlegroups.com, rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com, rtikerala@yahoogroups.co.in, "Dr Mohd Naved Khan RTIgroup" <mohdnavedkhan@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 1:34 AM

 

Dear RTI activists,

 

Just as we have the Public Information Officer (PIO) in every public authority, there is a Records Officer (RO) in almost every government department who can be fined Rs 10,000 or imprisoned for five years if documents are lost or tampered.

 

FOR CENTRAL GOVT DOCUMENTS, read Sec 10 of "Public Records Act 1993": http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords1

 

FOR MAHARASHTRA GOVT DOCUMENTS, read Sec 9 of "Maharashtra Act No 4 of 2006": http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords3

 

Quite often, we are denied information due to our own ignorance of these laws. No government employee can blandly say, "File lost" to an information seeker. There are clear-cut laws providing for who is to be held responsible and what is to be done in case documents or files are lost, misplaced or stolen. Therefore, under RTI, "File lost" can only be given as a reason for DELAY in providing information, but not as a reason for DENIAL of information.

 

If a file is lost, there is a clear-cut procedure that the officer designated as "Records Officer" has to follow. This may be summarized as "SRF" i.e.

a) SEARCH

b) RECONSTRUCT the file

c) Register FIR.

 

UNDERSTAND THESE KEY SECTIONS OF PUBLIC RECORDS ACT 1993:

SECTION 6:

  1. Every records creating agency shall nominate one of its officers as records officer to discharge the functions under this Act.

 

  1. Every records creating agency may set up such number of record rooms in such places as it deems fit and shall place each record room under the charge of a records officer.

 

SECTION 8:

  1. The records officer shall, in the event of any unauthorised removal, destruction, defacement or alteration of any public records under his charge, forthwith take appropriate action for the recovery or restoration of such public records.

 

  1. The records officer shall submit a report in writing to the Director General or as the case may be, the head of the Archives without any delay on any information about any unauthorised removal, destruction, defacement or alteration of any public record under his charge and about the action initiated by him and shall take action as he may deem necessary, subject to the directions, if any, given by Director General or, as the case may be, head of the Archives.

 

  1. The records officer may seek assistance from any government officer or any other person for the purpose of recovery or restoration of public records and such officer or person shall render all assistance to the records officer.

 

SECTION 10: Whoever contravenes any of the provisions of section 4 or section 8 shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years or with fine which may extend to ten thousand rupees or with both.

 

MAHARASHTRA ACTIVISTS: The corresponding sections of the State Act are 5, 7 & 9.

 

Exactly how, when and where must public records be classified, preserved, withdrawn or destroyed? Study Public Records RULES 1997: http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords2

(These rules apply to Central Govt documents, but there must be similar rules for State Govt.)

 

Especially read the forms given at the bottom of the Rules, particularly Form 8, which enables citizens to enroll as "Research Scholars" and study the documents at National Archives of India. Many hidden treasures may lie in these archives, waiting to be discovered by you!

 

Warm Regards,

Krish

98215 88114

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[HumJanenge] Fw: Rx for “Lost file” excuse by Government departments: Public Records Act



--- On Thu, 12/30/10, Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Krishnaraj Rao <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>
Subject: [rti4empowerment] "Lost file" excuse? Get FIR against Records Officer using these sections of Public Records Act
To: rti-forum-for-instant-information-@googlegroups.com, rti4empowerment@yahoogroups.com, rtikerala@yahoogroups.co.in, "Dr Mohd Naved Khan RTIgroup" <mohdnavedkhan@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 1:34 AM

 

Dear RTI activists,

 

Just as we have the Public Information Officer (PIO) in every public authority, there is a Records Officer (RO) in almost every government department who can be fined Rs 10,000 or imprisoned for five years if documents are lost or tampered.

 

FOR CENTRAL GOVT DOCUMENTS, read Sec 10 of "Public Records Act 1993": http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords1

 

FOR MAHARASHTRA GOVT DOCUMENTS, read Sec 9 of "Maharashtra Act No 4 of 2006": http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords3

 

Quite often, we are denied information due to our own ignorance of these laws. No government employee can blandly say, "File lost" to an information seeker. There are clear-cut laws providing for who is to be held responsible and what is to be done in case documents or files are lost, misplaced or stolen. Therefore, under RTI, "File lost" can only be given as a reason for DELAY in providing information, but not as a reason for DENIAL of information.

 

If a file is lost, there is a clear-cut procedure that the officer designated as "Records Officer" has to follow. This may be summarized as "SRF" i.e.

a) SEARCH

b) RECONSTRUCT the file

c) Register FIR.

 

UNDERSTAND THESE KEY SECTIONS OF PUBLIC RECORDS ACT 1993:

SECTION 6:

  1. Every records creating agency shall nominate one of its officers as records officer to discharge the functions under this Act.

 

  1. Every records creating agency may set up such number of record rooms in such places as it deems fit and shall place each record room under the charge of a records officer.

 

SECTION 8:

  1. The records officer shall, in the event of any unauthorised removal, destruction, defacement or alteration of any public records under his charge, forthwith take appropriate action for the recovery or restoration of such public records.

 

  1. The records officer shall submit a report in writing to the Director General or as the case may be, the head of the Archives without any delay on any information about any unauthorised removal, destruction, defacement or alteration of any public record under his charge and about the action initiated by him and shall take action as he may deem necessary, subject to the directions, if any, given by Director General or, as the case may be, head of the Archives.

 

  1. The records officer may seek assistance from any government officer or any other person for the purpose of recovery or restoration of public records and such officer or person shall render all assistance to the records officer.

 

SECTION 10: Whoever contravenes any of the provisions of section 4 or section 8 shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years or with fine which may extend to ten thousand rupees or with both.

 

MAHARASHTRA ACTIVISTS: The corresponding sections of the State Act are 5, 7 & 9.

 

Exactly how, when and where must public records be classified, preserved, withdrawn or destroyed? Study Public Records RULES 1997: http://tinyurl.com/PublicRecords2

(These rules apply to Central Govt documents, but there must be similar rules for State Govt.)

 

Especially read the forms given at the bottom of the Rules, particularly Form 8, which enables citizens to enroll as "Research Scholars" and study the documents at National Archives of India. Many hidden treasures may lie in these archives, waiting to be discovered by you!

 

Warm Regards,

Krish

98215 88114

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Re: [HumJanenge] reg sedition

Dear sarbjit Roy
The below statement is 100%
"Transparency International the police and judiciary are the most corrupt institutions in this country which in turn is one of the most corrupt in the whole world. "
Now
"its shame to talk-Crime to express"
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dwarakanath /group

I dont know in what context this definition has been uploaded, perhaps it refers to PMK's warnings in Binayak' Sens' discussions

I surmise that PMK is concerned about members like Major Ravi who were similarly jailed for their utterances and now go about posting pro-Maoist comments on various unmoderated blogs and RTI groups purporting to be written to Constitutional Officers. To illustrate such utterances
http://iesmorg.blogspot.com/2010/06/views-of-maj-pm-ravindran.html

"This letter is a deliberate effort in that direction. The only other option available to me is to pray that the naxalites and maoists chose their targets correctly whenever they decide to strike because the other options- approaching the police or the judiciary- is beyond the pale of ordinary mortals in this country. It is pertinent to recall that as per the survey results of Transparency International the police and judiciary are the most corrupt institutions in this country which in turn is one of the most corrupt in the whole world. "

We don't need a police officer like Amitabh Thakur, IPS to see that such statements would otherwise directly fall under definition of sedition you have uploaded except for the fig-leaf of its purportedly being written to a Chief Minister,

Sarbajit


On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends, I reproduce below the definition of 'sedition' under the Indian Penal Code. for information:
  124-A:   Sedition – whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by signs or by visible representation, or otherwise, brings or attempts to bring into hatred or contempt, or excites or attempts to excite disaffection towards, the Government established by law in India, shall be punished with imprisonment for Life, to which fine may be added, or with imprisonment which may extend to three years, to which fine may be added, or with fine.  [explanation-1- The expression "disaffection" includes disloyalty and all feelings of enmity, Explanation 2- Comments expressing disapprobation of the measures   of the Government with a view to obtain their alteration by lawful means, without exciting or attempting to excite hatred, contempt or disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.  Explanation 3- Comments expressing disapprobation of the administrative or other action of the Government without exciting or attempting to excite hatred, contempt or disaffection, do not constitute an offence under this section.




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