Re: [IAC#RG] Migrant labour - suffering in present corona virus pandemic

God has now taken over, try your best, Coronavirus will do the rest.
Have you ever seen snowing on 14th May, in last decades ?
Three idiots in the center & three idiots in the States are responsible for the present situations in India. Since these idiots had were under the impression that the are the Gods, in the planet. One idiot came from US to sell the dolls, another idiots wanted to buy & show the might, third idiot was busy to invent Coronavirus.

Now the situation in the whole planet is 56" has ordered to go all intellectuals in the cage, except God fearing are enjoying their life, they are taken care off. They are still not worried and are ready for any challenge. Only bribe takers, looters, fudgers, fixers, Traitors/touts are scared/frightened.

All I am saying is I had been alarming everyone since 1978 to be a human first, no one cared, now pay the price ?

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On May 15, 2020 00:55, "ravindra malhotra" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

In this forum there has been endless discussion on irrelevant issues, personal allegations and rebukes, while the issues at present killing a chunk of population is forgotten. 

We have been reading in papers and listening in news heartrending stories of plight of migrant labour in India - walking hundreds of miles or trying to walk with their meagre belongings on their head, children and women including pregnant women in toe, hungry and exhausted. Some perished  on the way. This inspite of arrangement for their stay and food having been ordered by the centre and the state governments.  While millions availed of hospitality of state, thousands kept on trying to flee or actually fled on foot. Even today the highways are teeming with these miserable people walking,some pulling their children on carts, some spending all their savings in payment to truck drivers, but still unsuccessful in reaching their destination. 

What went wrong? I have the following take -

Our bureaucracy have no category of 'migrant labour' in their books. They have SC's, ST's, OBC'c, BPL's, ultra Bpl's in their books but no migrant labour as a category. It resulted in the fact that they were forgotten when the lock down was imposed, and  their  existence and problems were realised only when they started collecting at inter state borders in thousands all over India. 

Same is the status of politicians vis-a-vis migrant labour..  Migrant labour is no voter for any one, as he works in the state or constituency where he does not have voting rights. At the time of elections, he is not in the constituency for which he has voting rights, as a migrant labour he is working elsewhere and does not have the money and time to go to his home only for voting. No political personnel or political party is therefore interested in them and their welfare is left to some NGO's with limited resources. They have no advocates for them out of  public representatives in state or central govt. The attitude of bureaucracy is also probably in large extent due to this fact of political apathy. 

The Central Govt has , after their initial forgetfulness about this category of people, ha announced many measures including their sheltering and feeding. Implementation has evidently not been that sincere. It is the public representatives, who advise their people about what the Govt is doing for them and also take their grievances to the governments. This was lacking due to reasons given above, leaving the labour un satisfied and dis satisfied resulting in their clamour to go back to their states. Some states have now been giving them calls to stay back as large scale exodus from the state of their work has started now with ease of restrictions, while their presence is now required to restart the economic activity. 

Centre has announced a monetary assistance to migrant labour..But how are these people moving on the highways, collected outside railway stations, living/resting on pavements to know? Political parties and their support organisation that claim to be NGO's could have helped if their volunteers, who are deputed for convassing during elections, are deputed to guide correctly these pitiable people. But of course these people are not voters - so who cares!

   

If anyone has a view on the issues of migrant labour, it will be interesting to know.

R.N.Malhotra

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[IAC#RG] Migrant labour - suffering in present corona virus pandemic

In this forum there has been endless discussion on irrelevant issues, personal allegations and rebukes, while the issues at present killing a chunk of population is forgotten. 

We have been reading in papers and listening in news heartrending stories of plight of migrant labour in India - walking hundreds of miles or trying to walk with their meagre belongings on their head, children and women including pregnant women in toe, hungry and exhausted. Some perished  on the way. This inspite of arrangement for their stay and food having been ordered by the centre and the state governments.  While millions availed of hospitality of state, thousands kept on trying to flee or actually fled on foot. Even today the highways are teeming with these miserable people walking,some pulling their children on carts, some spending all their savings in payment to truck drivers, but still unsuccessful in reaching their destination. 

What went wrong? I have the following take -

Our bureaucracy have no category of 'migrant labour' in their books. They have SC's, ST's, OBC'c, BPL's, ultra Bpl's in their books but no migrant labour as a category. It resulted in the fact that they were forgotten when the lock down was imposed, and  their  existence and problems were realised only when they started collecting at inter state borders in thousands all over India. 

Same is the status of politicians vis-a-vis migrant labour..  Migrant labour is no voter for any one, as he works in the state or constituency where he does not have voting rights. At the time of elections, he is not in the constituency for which he has voting rights, as a migrant labour he is working elsewhere and does not have the money and time to go to his home only for voting. No political personnel or political party is therefore interested in them and their welfare is left to some NGO's with limited resources. They have no advocates for them out of  public representatives in state or central govt. The attitude of bureaucracy is also probably in large extent due to this fact of political apathy. 

The Central Govt has , after their initial forgetfulness about this category of people, ha announced many measures including their sheltering and feeding. Implementation has evidently not been that sincere. It is the public representatives, who advise their people about what the Govt is doing for them and also take their grievances to the governments. This was lacking due to reasons given above, leaving the labour un satisfied and dis satisfied resulting in their clamour to go back to their states. Some states have now been giving them calls to stay back as large scale exodus from the state of their work has started now with ease of restrictions, while their presence is now required to restart the economic activity. 

Centre has announced a monetary assistance to migrant labour..But how are these people moving on the highways, collected outside railway stations, living/resting on pavements to know? Political parties and their support organisation that claim to be NGO's could have helped if their volunteers, who are deputed for convassing during elections, are deputed to guide correctly these pitiable people. But of course these people are not voters - so who cares!

   

If anyone has a view on the issues of migrant labour, it will be interesting to know.

R.N.Malhotra

[IAC#RG] Fwd: Lockdowns have totally failed to achieve their objective

To:

Lt. Col Rajinder Dalvi

Administrator - IAC#RG mailing list

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Sir

Sub: Lockdowns have totally failed to achieve their objective

With due respect to all the members of this list, many of whom seem to have a political axe to grind, I am setting out some graphs being circulated in scientific community so that IAC/HRA members can make informed decisions about their actions/lives.

I would be highly obliged if these were distributed to your mailing list's membership for their comments and feedback considering the subject matter and the high academic standards of your list membership.

NB: For sake of convenience the starting date has been taken as 01-March-2020.

These graphs are in public domain so please circulate widely

Graph #1 :
R0 Index for India is a raw estimation by IIM Ahmedabad www.iimahmedabad.in

with data source being John Hopkins CSE open sourced based on cited sources.

"R0" is a value which estimates how many persons contract the disease from an infected person

A R0 value of 2 indicates 1 infected person has infected 2 others.

It can be observed that R0 value has been increasing in India despite 3 lockdowns

CONCLUSION : All LOCKDOWNS 1 to 3 have failed to bring down R0

Graph #2 : Graph released by Govt of India on 24-April-2020 at Vigyan Bhawan Press Briefing

Source: https://caravanmagazine.in/health/surge-in-covid-cases-proves-centre-wrong-pandemic-response-marked-by-theatrics-not-science

Source: https://youtu.be/wav3cA8n5XE?t=1710

This graph  (created by a RSS paediatrician Dr. S Ramji who self admittedly has no expertise in epidemiology) had the Vice Chairman of NITI Ayog (India's central planning authority) foolishly claiming that India will be COVID free by May 16 2020, enabling Lockdown-3.0 to end on 17 May 2020

The serious error in this graph is the discredited and erroneous projections based on moving average of "doubling period/rate" of 3 days.

CONCLUSION :

The NITI AYOG is headed by RSS morons who know only Vedic mathematics

Graph #3 : Trend Lines for Corona Infections in India

Source: by Institution of Indian Mathematicians (Ahmedabad)

NB: This graph was created on May 8 when there were 56,000 cases, today after 5 days there are 78,000 cases.

Conclusions:

1) The disease cannot be said to have peaked in India.

2) Any conclusions or projections being made on "Doubling rate" are

fallacious and misleading

3) The disease is likely to continue for at least another 45 days at this level

4) India will overtake China in number of infections within next 2 days

5) This Govt seems to be doing everything possible to increase the number

of CORONA cases in India. Every step being taken by Ministry of Home

Affairs (MHA) or the Ministry of Health (MoHFW) is deliberately

designed to increase the number of cases and distribute this disease

widely throughout India. The government is simply not listening to experts

and has fallen back to achieving the alleged "herd immunity".

[IAC#RG] TRAINS FROM DELHI COULD BE DISASTROUS TO GOA

Despite an alarming continued spurt in the number of new COVID-19 cases across the country, it is a matter of great concern that regular trains have been allowed to come from Delhi's red Zone into Goa which is currently in the Green Zone. Five trains a week will be arriving from the national capital which could be catastrophic. Goa may currently be virus free but there can be no room for complacency as we are battling an unknown vicious enemy that has devastated the entire mankind across the globe.

Over the last few weeks this unprecedented lock-down caused a lot of hardship and inconvenience to all which the brave people endured in the bigger battle against the raging virus. Let us only hope that all this effort does not go in vain while the looming global pandemic shows no signs of tapering down. Allowing trains into Goa at this juncture is a very skewed decision. Government has an obligation and duty to protect its people. Yes, the economy is important, but the wellbeing of the people has to be a priority.  

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Re: [IAC#RG] Of Lying IAS rascals, and IIT-ian Prostitutes i

Dear former Justice K Nath

If the best you can contribute is to hand down mysterious Biblical proverbs (which incidentally Shakespeare plagiarised) without any context, then we wonder what kind of judge you were before you were that former judge, former Vice Chairman, former Up-Lokayukta etc?

What HRA files do show about you is that you were the Chairman in India of Transparency International - an NGO well known for being a proxy for corrupt corporations and massively funded by them. TI's notoriety starts with TI's headquarters in Germany where they received massive funding from Siemens at the time Siemens was exposed in a massive bribery scandal for securing govt orders in 3rd world countries for which they were slapped a US$ 1.5 billion penalty.

TI is also notorious in USA for being funded by some of the biggest companies involved in corruption  payoffs. In your own case you were propped up by Transparency International and the RSS to get the Lokpal implemented in India along with Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Swami Agnivesh, Baba Ramdev, SriSri RT of Living  etc at the instance of Transparency International USA which is actually  run by a group of corporate lawyers who defend US corporates like Enron and Bechtel against bribery investigations in 3rd world countries (which is banned in US law). HRA files indicate you were almost certainly made the UP LokAyukta of Karnataka because of the presence of so many US corporations based there.

HRA files also indicate that usually only corrupt judges take on so many assignments after retirement (there may be few exceptions)..The files also show your daughter mysteriously rose to the post of Chief Accountant  of Indian Railways (file notings say less said about the IRAS and how she cleared IRAS the better) after being only a M.A. in English Literature and having no professional accounting qualifications whatsoever till the date she retired sometime around early 2015..

Remember "Every action has an equal an opposite reaction"

With best regards

Ravi

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 8:16 PM Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Remember: "Pride goes before a fall".

         KN

 

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Address	:	`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
Phone(s)	:	Landline : +91-522-2789033. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 

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Professor Natarajan

A spade must be called a spade and not a shovel.

You may have missed it, but we are a group of highly educated scientific researchers and medical professionals from the private sector. We are not at all like boot-licking man-worshipping mediocre retired government employees you are used to.

From the earliest days of Lockdown we were deeply concerned when the official COVID-19 statistics began diverging from our scientific predictive models. The causes are by now very well known - GROSS UNDER TESTING and DELIBERATE UNDER-REPORTING. It is all being organised by a gaggle of shameless ex-IITians who are now IAS officers and who are no better than prostitutes. At the Centre it is Lav Aggarwal. In Delhi it is Chef Secretary .S.D Sharma and Sanjeiv Khirwar. You can easily identify similar IAS rascals in your state (Karnataka / Tamil Nadu)

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/mismatch-between-coronavirus-death-toll-of-delhi-govt-hospital-data-6400968/

So kindly stop posting these idiotic messages to the list when you have nothing of value to contribute.

Ravi

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 7:44 AM Natarajan <natarajan218@yahoo.com> wrote:

I request the administrator to censor abuses and filthy language used by gentlemen using this forum. This lowers the dignity of this platform. Kindly ask them to be tolerant of other views. That will ensure that all the views on corruption are freely expressed, which is the aim of the forum. The intemperate language in the public forum only throws light on the background and upbringing of the author and not the person abused.

Re: [IAC#RG] Of Lying IAS rascals, and IIT-ian Prostitutes in Government

The demonetization of 2016 was a fiasco, as per the opinion of many economists. I hope Mr. Modi will one day accept it as one.

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Was the demonetization fiasco part of the 90% right things Modi Sarkar did? Did it bring back black money? Did it make the country and its people economically safer? Weren't those carefully timed opening of Jan Dhan accounts not used as a conduit for money laundering,. particularly in Gujarat? Did not containers of used soiled demonitized notes land up in the ports of UAE to be laundered as expatriate Indians' money there which created a scandal in those countries? And did it stop terror funding? 

Was the amnesty given to all the biggest NPA holders and waiving of their loans a good thing in this time of crisis? 

Wasn't the lockdown imposed on an unprepared public and unconsulted state governments without ever thinking of the millions of migrant workers far away from home who were summarily thrown out of their jobs and tenements in India's richest cities a sign of the heartlessness of this government?

When WHO declared the Covid19 pandemic on January 31, was it right for this government to spend the whole of the next month, February, planning, executing and congratulating itself over the ill-timed visit of Donald Trump to Gujarat, which may in fact have brought many infected asymptomatic carriers in his retinue (and the crowds that were brought in to the stadium for his reception) to hitherto unaffected areas of India? 

Is the silence of the top men of this Sarkar on the continuing persecution of Muslims by their Godi media and militant youth wings a 'good' thing?

Please list at least two 'good' things this Sarkar has done for Indians. 

(Smt.) Joya Roy

On Fri, 8 May 2020, 14:11 Gopalkrishnan iyer, <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

It appears there are many paid agents knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still believing the lies!

If Indians who are loyal to the country and want it to attain a developed stage at the earliest they should believe, even against accrued pull otherwise, in the present government led by Mr. Modi we all should support the government in all decisions, even if some could be wrong eventually! We have a doer in Modi, that too doing best based on management principles, almost 90% right all the time over the last 6 years! What best we can do, irrespective of compulsions otherwise, is to give Mr. Modi and his team constructive work and tire them! If we hold on steadfast at least to next 10 years we would have an India comparable with almost all the developed contries besides resetting our immense values! Modi at 70 is entitled to be a senior citizen, notwithstanding 25 years' working 18x7x365x25, running around like a 25 year old asking for more and more productive and useful work for the betterment of the country! I was born before independence and have a fair idea of all Indian leaders and Modi is distinctly  different one who toil for the country and its people! Being a democracy the government and leaders could change, may not be before the next 10 years, and it should be the responsibility of each of us to give him a helping hand to reach India to a peak point from where it won't slip back!! Let us not use our differences in a destructive path! Let us also not discourage/brainwash innocent people against the country's interest!

On Friday, 8 May, 2020, 04:20:26 am IST, ravi kapoor <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:

When a Mukesh Ambani owned news media calls out the Modi government for lying you know that something is very seriously wrong.

India isn't flattening the COVID-19 curve; Health ministry must stop making this claim

When the opposition friendly "The Wire"  (owned by CIA stooge and US citizen Siddhartha Varadajan) attacks the BJP friendly Telangana Govt, you know that something is very seriously wrong with the govt's COVID-19 numbers.

Now, Telangana Government Accused of Underreporting COVID-19 Cases

When the Modi Govt wants to brink back thousands of Indians from COVID19 hotspots abroad, after knowing full well what happened in March 2020, somebody has to ask,

IS MODI GOVT PART OF THE WORLDWIDE CONSPIRACY TO DELIBERATELY INFECT 1 MILLION INNOCENT INDIANS WITH THE DEADLY "MADE-IN-USA" VIRUS ?

A picture, as always, is worth 1,000 words to those who can understand it. (otherwise you can believe Lying IAS rascals, and IIT-ian Prostitutes, in Government like LAV AGARWAL a Joint Secretary in Modi's Health Ministry who seem to be reading their graphs upside-down or sideways to please Modi).

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Re: [IAC#RG] Of Lying IAS rascals, and IIT-ian Prostitutes i

 

Remember: "Pride goes before a fall".

         KN

 

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath

Former	:	Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ), Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
Address	:	`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
Phone(s)	:	Landline : +91-522-2789033. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 

 

 

 

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Professor Natarajan

A spade must be called a spade and not a shovel.

You may have missed it, but we are a group of highly educated scientific researchers and medical professionals from the private sector. We are not at all like boot-licking man-worshipping mediocre retired government employees you are used to.

From the earliest days of Lockdown we were deeply concerned when the official COVID-19 statistics began diverging from our scientific predictive models. The causes are by now very well known - GROSS UNDER TESTING and DELIBERATE UNDER-REPORTING. It is all being organised by a gaggle of shameless ex-IITians who are now IAS officers and who are no better than prostitutes. At the Centre it is Lav Aggarwal. In Delhi it is Chef Secretary .S.D Sharma and Sanjeiv Khirwar. You can easily identify similar IAS rascals in your state (Karnataka / Tamil Nadu)

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/mismatch-between-coronavirus-death-toll-of-delhi-govt-hospital-data-6400968/

So kindly stop posting these idiotic messages to the list when you have nothing of value to contribute.

Ravi

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 7:44 AM Natarajan <natarajan218@yahoo.com> wrote:

I request the administrator to censor abuses and filthy language used by gentlemen using this forum. This lowers the dignity of this platform. Kindly ask them to be tolerant of other views. That will ensure that all the views on corruption are freely expressed, which is the aim of the forum. The intemperate language in the public forum only throws light on the background and upbringing of the author and not the person abused.

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