Wednesday, August 30, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] TT

Kashyap Vyas
Did you ever hear any one else besides BJP supporting case against triple talaq
This baba who is now being called BJP baba has followers n support from congress ( z plus category provided by Hooda,his son is MLA with congress ticket in Punjab)far more than he had from BJP.
I am sure you must have read additional security being provided to the CBI judge who delivered the judgment by Haryana government
We all can be more unbiased and see in totality rather than going by the narrative of the media m political parties
Manohar


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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] TT
 
There is no role of BJP in Honorable Supreme Court order. Judiciary would have been adjudicated same ruling irrespective of who is ruling India.

So please don't give credit to BJP 

Kashyap Vyas 

On 31-Aug-2017 6:05 AM, "Rajendra Thacker" <rjthacker57@gmail.com> wrote:
BJP has done justice to Muslim women, It is not Anti Talaq. Muslim personal law is created and enacted by Nehru for vote banking. 

Why such laws are not available in rest of the world where Muslim resides ?

Saudi Arabia even uttered that Muslims in India are Hindu Muslim and Converted Muslim. They do not consider Pakistani and Indian Muslim as Musalman.

Do not argue without justification.

Rajendra Thacker



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Amaresh Misra <misra.amaresh@gmail.com> wrote:
THE HIDDEN AGENDA: BJP's REAL TARGET IN THE TT SAGA IS NEHRU's HINDU CODE BILL...

They say we are living in a post-truth world...wrong...we are living in a post-lie world...

It is not just that lies have become the truth...that they have...it is that lies have acquired the veneer of 'modernity'...lie has become acceptable...even coveted...an objective force that fascists wear proudly on their sleeves...

Today, your greatest enemy will be leading you into battle against the 'enemy'...such are the times...

Lie has brothers, friends, Romans and countrymen...one of its cousins is a chicken-shit called double standards...

Take triple talaq...it is obvious what a non-issue the issue is...Muslim women face so many genuine problems...they are oppressed twice as Muslims and women...when their brothers, husbands, sons, fathers, lovers are lynched, killed, 'fake-encountered', brutalised: what do they go through? 

But no one will talk about this...even anti-RSS liberals will talk of 'we know how BJP will ultimately gain from this issue'...but let's 'celebrate this moment of woman emanicipation'...

'Women emanicipation'? Triple Talaq (TT) and women emanicipation? Are you nuts? Why are you abusing the great legacy of the struggle for women's rights? 

Leave aside the fact that Indian Court has put a ban only on 'instant Talaq' that anyways does not enjoy Koranic sanction...and that too for 6 months...

The fact is that TT is banned in most Muslim countries...if India was serious about a uniform civil code (UCC) it would have implemented it long ago...and yes with the full agreement of Maulavis and religious heads...

Keeping a personal law for Muslim is not right or wrong...it was part of the social contract between the Indian State and Muslims who preferred to stay back in India rather than go to Pakistan...

With the consent of all stakeholders, a social contract can be updated or modernised or anulled...but you cannot renege...you cannot put a gun to the head of a stakeholder and force him to sign...

Have you ever wondered why RSS and BJP are anti-TT? Do they really believe in UCC?

RSS and BJP are anti-TT not just because it is another stick with which they can browbeat Muslims...they are anti-TT because the position gives them the perfect standpoint to do what they always wanted: attack the Hindu Code Bill (HCB)!

In the 1950s, all hues of RSS opposed the Hindu Code Bill...Hindu women today enjoy some level of freedom due to Nehru's HCB...but RSS is a fascist organization...it is initiating a counter revolution in Indian society...it is hell-bent on rolling back whatever reforms and progress Indian society has made in terms of advancement in civil rights, upliftment of weaker sections, and women emancipation...

RSS-BJP are crooked forces...they do things undercover...in a clandestine manner...they did not attack HCB directly...

By attacking TT, BJP first communalised the personal law issue...they gathered massive support among Hindu secular-progressive women and liberals...Muslim women enjoying a modicum of freedom were swayed too...

With this support, and the environs it created, it was only a matter of time before RSS-BJP got in a legal manner what they always wanted: the power to legislate on personal law...

And fascists will use this power not to reform Muslim personal law or bring in a progressive UCC...they are demons in human form...in the name of UCC, they will whittle down/distort the progressive aspects of Nehru's HCB...
 
Forget about the 'upliftment' of Muslim women...Hindu women should get ready to return legally to being housewives...widows should get ready to lose their right to remarry...divorcees should get ready for the humiliation of living as second class citizens with men they hate...and daughter, sisters, wives and mothers should get ready to give up their rights of property...and accept polygamy...

Musalmaan to vaise bhee bhagwaan bharose reh rahen hain...by the time fascists will be through, Hindu women will be 'bombed' back to middle ages...

And they will look at Muslim women and envy the rights enshrined in a religious book compiled in the 7th century...

Amaresh Misra

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Re: [IAC#RG] TT

Dear Kashyapji

I do not think any body has given credit to BJP for the judgement of Hon'ble supreme court. It is a judgement of the Hon'ble court of which we are proud of.

Regards

Dr.M.C.nahata


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To: Rajendra Thacker
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] TT
 
There is no role of BJP in Honorable Supreme Court order. Judiciary would have been adjudicated same ruling irrespective of who is ruling India.

So please don't give credit to BJP 

Kashyap Vyas 

On 31-Aug-2017 6:05 AM, "Rajendra Thacker" <rjthacker57@gmail.com> wrote:
BJP has done justice to Muslim women, It is not Anti Talaq. Muslim personal law is created and enacted by Nehru for vote banking. 

Why such laws are not available in rest of the world where Muslim resides ?

Saudi Arabia even uttered that Muslims in India are Hindu Muslim and Converted Muslim. They do not consider Pakistani and Indian Muslim as Musalman.

Do not argue without justification.

Rajendra Thacker



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Amaresh Misra <misra.amaresh@gmail.com> wrote:
THE HIDDEN AGENDA: BJP's REAL TARGET IN THE TT SAGA IS NEHRU's HINDU CODE BILL...

They say we are living in a post-truth world...wrong...we are living in a post-lie world...

It is not just that lies have become the truth...that they have...it is that lies have acquired the veneer of 'modernity'...lie has become acceptable...even coveted...an objective force that fascists wear proudly on their sleeves...

Today, your greatest enemy will be leading you into battle against the 'enemy'...such are the times...

Lie has brothers, friends, Romans and countrymen...one of its cousins is a chicken-shit called double standards...

Take triple talaq...it is obvious what a non-issue the issue is...Muslim women face so many genuine problems...they are oppressed twice as Muslims and women...when their brothers, husbands, sons, fathers, lovers are lynched, killed, 'fake-encountered', brutalised: what do they go through? 

But no one will talk about this...even anti-RSS liberals will talk of 'we know how BJP will ultimately gain from this issue'...but let's 'celebrate this moment of woman emanicipation'...

'Women emanicipation'? Triple Talaq (TT) and women emanicipation? Are you nuts? Why are you abusing the great legacy of the struggle for women's rights? 

Leave aside the fact that Indian Court has put a ban only on 'instant Talaq' that anyways does not enjoy Koranic sanction...and that too for 6 months...

The fact is that TT is banned in most Muslim countries...if India was serious about a uniform civil code (UCC) it would have implemented it long ago...and yes with the full agreement of Maulavis and religious heads...

Keeping a personal law for Muslim is not right or wrong...it was part of the social contract between the Indian State and Muslims who preferred to stay back in India rather than go to Pakistan...

With the consent of all stakeholders, a social contract can be updated or modernised or anulled...but you cannot renege...you cannot put a gun to the head of a stakeholder and force him to sign...

Have you ever wondered why RSS and BJP are anti-TT? Do they really believe in UCC?

RSS and BJP are anti-TT not just because it is another stick with which they can browbeat Muslims...they are anti-TT because the position gives them the perfect standpoint to do what they always wanted: attack the Hindu Code Bill (HCB)!

In the 1950s, all hues of RSS opposed the Hindu Code Bill...Hindu women today enjoy some level of freedom due to Nehru's HCB...but RSS is a fascist organization...it is initiating a counter revolution in Indian society...it is hell-bent on rolling back whatever reforms and progress Indian society has made in terms of advancement in civil rights, upliftment of weaker sections, and women emancipation...

RSS-BJP are crooked forces...they do things undercover...in a clandestine manner...they did not attack HCB directly...

By attacking TT, BJP first communalised the personal law issue...they gathered massive support among Hindu secular-progressive women and liberals...Muslim women enjoying a modicum of freedom were swayed too...

With this support, and the environs it created, it was only a matter of time before RSS-BJP got in a legal manner what they always wanted: the power to legislate on personal law...

And fascists will use this power not to reform Muslim personal law or bring in a progressive UCC...they are demons in human form...in the name of UCC, they will whittle down/distort the progressive aspects of Nehru's HCB...
 
Forget about the 'upliftment' of Muslim women...Hindu women should get ready to return legally to being housewives...widows should get ready to lose their right to remarry...divorcees should get ready for the humiliation of living as second class citizens with men they hate...and daughter, sisters, wives and mothers should get ready to give up their rights of property...and accept polygamy...

Musalmaan to vaise bhee bhagwaan bharose reh rahen hain...by the time fascists will be through, Hindu women will be 'bombed' back to middle ages...

And they will look at Muslim women and envy the rights enshrined in a religious book compiled in the 7th century...

Amaresh Misra

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[IAC#RG] RBI confesses that demonetisation failed

http://indianexpress.com/article/business/banking-and-finance/demonetisation-99-per-cent-of-demonetised-notes-came-back-rbi-annual-report-4821558/

The Reserve Bank of India (RBI) Wednesday disclosed that almost 99 per cent of Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 currency notes which were withdrawn from circulation on November 8, 2016 has returned to the central bank, confirming what the government's critics had been pointing out about the weak economic rationale for demonetisation. This also raises questions about the overall gains and the impact on the economy, especially the informal sector, because of the disruption it caused.

Nine months after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced demonetisation of Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 notes, the RBI finally revealed in its annual report that notes worth Rs 15.28 lakh crore were deposited by people as on June 30, 2017. This indicates that notes worth only Rs 16,000 crore were not returned since the value of Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 notes in circulation was Rs 15.44 lakh crore on the day demonetisation was announced.

Re: [IAC#RG] TT

There is no role of BJP in Honorable Supreme Court order. Judiciary would have been adjudicated same ruling irrespective of who is ruling India.

So please don't give credit to BJP 

Kashyap Vyas 

On 31-Aug-2017 6:05 AM, "Rajendra Thacker" <rjthacker57@gmail.com> wrote:
BJP has done justice to Muslim women, It is not Anti Talaq. Muslim personal law is created and enacted by Nehru for vote banking. 

Why such laws are not available in rest of the world where Muslim resides ?

Saudi Arabia even uttered that Muslims in India are Hindu Muslim and Converted Muslim. They do not consider Pakistani and Indian Muslim as Musalman.

Do not argue without justification.

Rajendra Thacker



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Amaresh Misra <misra.amaresh@gmail.com> wrote:
THE HIDDEN AGENDA: BJP's REAL TARGET IN THE TT SAGA IS NEHRU's HINDU CODE BILL...

They say we are living in a post-truth world...wrong...we are living in a post-lie world...

It is not just that lies have become the truth...that they have...it is that lies have acquired the veneer of 'modernity'...lie has become acceptable...even coveted...an objective force that fascists wear proudly on their sleeves...

Today, your greatest enemy will be leading you into battle against the 'enemy'...such are the times...

Lie has brothers, friends, Romans and countrymen...one of its cousins is a chicken-shit called double standards...

Take triple talaq...it is obvious what a non-issue the issue is...Muslim women face so many genuine problems...they are oppressed twice as Muslims and women...when their brothers, husbands, sons, fathers, lovers are lynched, killed, 'fake-encountered', brutalised: what do they go through? 

But no one will talk about this...even anti-RSS liberals will talk of 'we know how BJP will ultimately gain from this issue'...but let's 'celebrate this moment of woman emanicipation'...

'Women emanicipation'? Triple Talaq (TT) and women emanicipation? Are you nuts? Why are you abusing the great legacy of the struggle for women's rights? 

Leave aside the fact that Indian Court has put a ban only on 'instant Talaq' that anyways does not enjoy Koranic sanction...and that too for 6 months...

The fact is that TT is banned in most Muslim countries...if India was serious about a uniform civil code (UCC) it would have implemented it long ago...and yes with the full agreement of Maulavis and religious heads...

Keeping a personal law for Muslim is not right or wrong...it was part of the social contract between the Indian State and Muslims who preferred to stay back in India rather than go to Pakistan...

With the consent of all stakeholders, a social contract can be updated or modernised or anulled...but you cannot renege...you cannot put a gun to the head of a stakeholder and force him to sign...

Have you ever wondered why RSS and BJP are anti-TT? Do they really believe in UCC?

RSS and BJP are anti-TT not just because it is another stick with which they can browbeat Muslims...they are anti-TT because the position gives them the perfect standpoint to do what they always wanted: attack the Hindu Code Bill (HCB)!

In the 1950s, all hues of RSS opposed the Hindu Code Bill...Hindu women today enjoy some level of freedom due to Nehru's HCB...but RSS is a fascist organization...it is initiating a counter revolution in Indian society...it is hell-bent on rolling back whatever reforms and progress Indian society has made in terms of advancement in civil rights, upliftment of weaker sections, and women emancipation...

RSS-BJP are crooked forces...they do things undercover...in a clandestine manner...they did not attack HCB directly...

By attacking TT, BJP first communalised the personal law issue...they gathered massive support among Hindu secular-progressive women and liberals...Muslim women enjoying a modicum of freedom were swayed too...

With this support, and the environs it created, it was only a matter of time before RSS-BJP got in a legal manner what they always wanted: the power to legislate on personal law...

And fascists will use this power not to reform Muslim personal law or bring in a progressive UCC...they are demons in human form...in the name of UCC, they will whittle down/distort the progressive aspects of Nehru's HCB...
 
Forget about the 'upliftment' of Muslim women...Hindu women should get ready to return legally to being housewives...widows should get ready to lose their right to remarry...divorcees should get ready for the humiliation of living as second class citizens with men they hate...and daughter, sisters, wives and mothers should get ready to give up their rights of property...and accept polygamy...

Musalmaan to vaise bhee bhagwaan bharose reh rahen hain...by the time fascists will be through, Hindu women will be 'bombed' back to middle ages...

And they will look at Muslim women and envy the rights enshrined in a religious book compiled in the 7th century...

Amaresh Misra

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Re: [IAC#RG] A VERY UNHOLY GOOF UP

Dear Aires

Thanks for highlighting this. It is a CRIMINAL ACT for a male priest
to take this group of minor Catholic girls into a dense forest at
night.What were the parents of these children thinking entrusting th
precious chastity of their daughters to this priest ?

Over the years all manner of fake priests, babas, maulvis, have abused
the innocence of their "flocks" for personal gain. All these Vaticans,
temples, ashrams etc have become power centres based on greed, lust,
debauchery and exploitation.

It is high time that the educated / intelligent people of India (ie.
if there any still left) conbine to wipe out these dens of corruption
and licentiousness and raze them to the ground.

On a side note, last month our great Nobel Laureate Kailash Satyarthi
had invited me to an inter-faith gathering of about 25 religious
leaders, I (on behalf of Hindu Samaj of India) was the only one who
told them to their face and publicly and in writing that they were all
mainly frauds preying on innocent and desperate people who are left
with nowhere to go (corrupt courts / police / babudom) except to pray
for a better 2nd life through all these instittutional religious
rascals. It is unikel that I will be invited again.

I sincerely hope that Kailash Satyarthi respects the Arya Samaj
traditions of his late father-in-law (who I knew many years ago) and
does not seek support of these knd of people to project himself. As it
is the people are starting to get fed up with Mr. Modi and Mr. Amit
Shah (and their rigged voting machines) and the RSS forces are now
starting all sorts of these FAKE morchas and andolans to distract and
divert our foolish public.

I hope that you shall pursue this rogue priest through the criminal
system of India instead of submitting to some Vatican delegate and
sweeping such things under the carpet.

Sarbajit Roy

On 8/30/17, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was a very providential escape for those seven minor girls, four of whom
> are from Ribandar, who went straying on that unauthorized trekking
> expedition into the deep forest of the Mhadei Wildlide Sanctuary. Highly
> irresponsible was the conduct of Melany Pinto who very carelessly misled
> these young girls into that thick forest which is infested with wild
> animals and thus endangered the lives of these minor girls while they
> remained vulnerable in that forest all night.
>
>
> Melany Pinto who is attached to a religious order "Heralds of the Gospel"
> earlier used to assist the Parish Priest of Caranzalem and is now seen at
> the Ribandar Church. His gross misconduct in taking these minor girls on
> that totally reckless expedition needs to be taken very serious note of.
>
>
> Our Ribandar Church over the years has been in the news for all the wrong
> reasons. And that saga seems unending…Its time His Grace the Archbishop of
> Goa Rev. Filipe Neri Ferrao cracks the whip and seeks an immediate
> explanation.
>
>
> http://epaper.heraldgoa.in/Details.aspx?id=30263&boxid=
> 142731227&uid=&dat=8/30/2017
>
>
> Aires Rodrigues
>
> Advocate High Court
>
> C/G-2, Shopping Complex
>
> Ribandar Retreat,
>
> Ribandar – Goa – 403006
>
> Mobile No: 9822684372
>
> Office Tel No: (0832) 2444012
>
> Email: airesrodrigues1@gmail.com
>
> Or
>
> airesrodrigues@yahoo.com
>
> You can also reach me on
>
> Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues
>
> Twitter@rodrigues_aires
>
>
> www.airesrodrigues.com
>

[IAC#RG] A VERY UNHOLY GOOF UP

It was a very providential escape for those seven minor girls, four of whom are from Ribandar, who went straying on that unauthorized trekking expedition into the deep forest of the Mhadei Wildlide Sanctuary. Highly irresponsible was the conduct of Melany Pinto who very carelessly misled these young girls into that thick forest which is infested with wild animals and thus endangered the lives of these minor girls while they remained vulnerable in that forest all night.


Melany Pinto who is attached to a religious order "Heralds of the Gospel" earlier used to assist the Parish Priest of Caranzalem and is now seen at the Ribandar Church. His gross misconduct in taking these minor girls on that totally reckless expedition needs to be taken very serious note of.  


Our Ribandar Church over the years has been in the news for all the wrong reasons. And that saga seems unending…Its time His Grace the Archbishop of Goa Rev. Filipe Neri Ferrao cracks the whip and seeks an immediate explanation. 


http://epaper.heraldgoa.in/Details.aspx?id=30263&boxid=142731227&uid=&dat=8/30/2017



Aires Rodrigues

Advocate High Court

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat,

Ribandar – Goa – 403006


Mobile No: 9822684372


Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigues1@gmail.com

                         Or

           airesrodrigues@yahoo.com


You can also reach me on


Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues


Twitter@rodrigues_aires


www.airesrodrigues.com


Tuesday, August 29, 2017

Re: [IAC#RG] TT

BJP has done justice to Muslim women, It is not Anti Talaq. Muslim personal law is created and enacted by Nehru for vote banking. 

Why such laws are not available in rest of the world where Muslim resides ?

Saudi Arabia even uttered that Muslims in India are Hindu Muslim and Converted Muslim. They do not consider Pakistani and Indian Muslim as Musalman.

Do not argue without justification.

Rajendra Thacker



On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 11:19 PM, Amaresh Misra <misra.amaresh@gmail.com> wrote:
THE HIDDEN AGENDA: BJP's REAL TARGET IN THE TT SAGA IS NEHRU's HINDU CODE BILL...

They say we are living in a post-truth world...wrong...we are living in a post-lie world...

It is not just that lies have become the truth...that they have...it is that lies have acquired the veneer of 'modernity'...lie has become acceptable...even coveted...an objective force that fascists wear proudly on their sleeves...

Today, your greatest enemy will be leading you into battle against the 'enemy'...such are the times...

Lie has brothers, friends, Romans and countrymen...one of its cousins is a chicken-shit called double standards...

Take triple talaq...it is obvious what a non-issue the issue is...Muslim women face so many genuine problems...they are oppressed twice as Muslims and women...when their brothers, husbands, sons, fathers, lovers are lynched, killed, 'fake-encountered', brutalised: what do they go through? 

But no one will talk about this...even anti-RSS liberals will talk of 'we know how BJP will ultimately gain from this issue'...but let's 'celebrate this moment of woman emanicipation'...

'Women emanicipation'? Triple Talaq (TT) and women emanicipation? Are you nuts? Why are you abusing the great legacy of the struggle for women's rights? 

Leave aside the fact that Indian Court has put a ban only on 'instant Talaq' that anyways does not enjoy Koranic sanction...and that too for 6 months...

The fact is that TT is banned in most Muslim countries...if India was serious about a uniform civil code (UCC) it would have implemented it long ago...and yes with the full agreement of Maulavis and religious heads...

Keeping a personal law for Muslim is not right or wrong...it was part of the social contract between the Indian State and Muslims who preferred to stay back in India rather than go to Pakistan...

With the consent of all stakeholders, a social contract can be updated or modernised or anulled...but you cannot renege...you cannot put a gun to the head of a stakeholder and force him to sign...

Have you ever wondered why RSS and BJP are anti-TT? Do they really believe in UCC?

RSS and BJP are anti-TT not just because it is another stick with which they can browbeat Muslims...they are anti-TT because the position gives them the perfect standpoint to do what they always wanted: attack the Hindu Code Bill (HCB)!

In the 1950s, all hues of RSS opposed the Hindu Code Bill...Hindu women today enjoy some level of freedom due to Nehru's HCB...but RSS is a fascist organization...it is initiating a counter revolution in Indian society...it is hell-bent on rolling back whatever reforms and progress Indian society has made in terms of advancement in civil rights, upliftment of weaker sections, and women emancipation...

RSS-BJP are crooked forces...they do things undercover...in a clandestine manner...they did not attack HCB directly...

By attacking TT, BJP first communalised the personal law issue...they gathered massive support among Hindu secular-progressive women and liberals...Muslim women enjoying a modicum of freedom were swayed too...

With this support, and the environs it created, it was only a matter of time before RSS-BJP got in a legal manner what they always wanted: the power to legislate on personal law...

And fascists will use this power not to reform Muslim personal law or bring in a progressive UCC...they are demons in human form...in the name of UCC, they will whittle down/distort the progressive aspects of Nehru's HCB...
 
Forget about the 'upliftment' of Muslim women...Hindu women should get ready to return legally to being housewives...widows should get ready to lose their right to remarry...divorcees should get ready for the humiliation of living as second class citizens with men they hate...and daughter, sisters, wives and mothers should get ready to give up their rights of property...and accept polygamy...

Musalmaan to vaise bhee bhagwaan bharose reh rahen hain...by the time fascists will be through, Hindu women will be 'bombed' back to middle ages...

And they will look at Muslim women and envy the rights enshrined in a religious book compiled in the 7th century...

Amaresh Misra

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