Shakspeare said, at times going to law is losing a cow for sake of a cat--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 11/1/17, MG Kapoor <mgkapoor.1962@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Wednesday, 11 January, 2017, 1:02 PM
I feel
filing a writ petition in the High Court may be,
perhaps, the best answer. Your case appears very genuine.
You may implead Governor RBI and the Union of India (through
the Secretary, Ministry of Finance) as the parties. The writ
application should be from your wife who should support the
averments on affidavit, giving details as to how she came to
be in possession of the money. It is a known fact that wives
do save money from the household expenses given to them by
their husbands, gifts from parents, brothers etc. And they
do keep such money in such places as cannot be detected by
anyone, including the husband, or be stolen. And at times
wives do forget where they kept the money.
But
unfortunately litigation is expensive. It may be a case of
the monkey gaining from the fight between two cats - I mean
lawyer may gain by way of fee.
The
strongest ground could be "The promise that the RBI
Governor has made to pay on demand". Such promise
cannot be revoked at the instance of the third Party
(Govt).
Another
sound ground being that Mr Modi had earlier promised that
after 31 Dec 2016 one could deposit the old currency with
the RBI till 31 March 2017.
High Court
has the power and in an appropriate case may issue
writ.
I wish you
success.
MG
Sent from my iPhone
On 11-Jan-2017, at 2:43 AM, Colonel Srikant <colonelsrikant@gmail.com>
wrote:
While packing to move house, in
Bangalore, my wife and I discovered, yesterday, one lakh
rupees in demonetised notes in our steel cupboard, which we
had kept aside for medical and other emergencies (we are
both well above 60 years and retired from government
service- army and banking), and overlooked to deposit by Dec
30. Can anyone, under the unexpected
circumstances, suggest the best possible solution to help us
out and whom to contact for same?
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Re: [IAC#RG] Scams in Anna Hazare's NGO leads to compulsory audit of 30 Lakh NGOs
Dear Mr. Mathur
IAC does not leak to the media. In any case the (bought off) media is not favourably disposed to us since we don't pander / leak to them, nor do we create "events" for them.However, we have sent emails to Mr. Anna Hazare's office and also spoken to many people in his organisation sharing our deep concern that Mr. Hazare is cheapening the anti-corruption movement by his poor choice of associates and sponsors.
Sarbajit
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Sant Mathur <santmathur@gmail.com> wrote:
Has material,considered adverse to Mr Hazare been shared with the entire media?Let them come up with their own investigative journalism or sting ops.Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] Scams in Anna Hazare's NGO leads to compulsory audit of 30 Lakh NGOs
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> Although Anna Hazare regularly gets all kinds of awards in his personal capacity from unregulated entities for services rendered it is not clear where he accounts for these considering the multiplicity of trusts he is involved in but whose accounts are not up-to-date or filed. His main trust the Bhrastachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas (BVJA) was in serious trouble and most of its trustees have disassociated from him and the Jt. Charity Commissioner Pune had even stopped the trust and was on point of appointing an administrator and had frozen its name. After this happened a desperate and penniless Anna Hazare (who had previously repeatedly stated on national television that he was in no way connected to India Against Corruption) even tried to start using IAC's name after his Biopic flopped badly and he was recently reduced to acting for meat / beef exporters and hawala agents for peanuts.The SC PIL by SC Advocate M.L.Sharma exposing the scandals in Anna Hazare's NGO Hind Swaraj Trust which was probed by Justice P.B.Sawant Commission of Inquiry has finally resulted in the SC Bench directing (on 10.Jan.2017) the concerned Govts to ensure audits of Anna 's trusts along with all 30 Lakh NGOs in the country.India Against Corruption has been regulary cautioning about deceivers like Anna Hazare who act coy and simple in public but whose operstions seem to be functioning on oceans of unaccounted black money in private.How low can such people stoop is the question ? Is it the time near that Anna Haazre will again start recommending politicians like Chauthala to the voters against under the table payoffs made to his close associates in Ralegan Siddhi?Sarbajitfor INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION jan andolan"
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[IAC#RG] Fwd: Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
''
I feel in this case the party can directly approach the reserve bank branch to deposit the amount giving proper explanation. That way they can save money from spending as lawyer's fee. If one is not corrupt he/
she
can boldly give the explanation (even an affidavit) at the time of depositing the money in RBI. If the money that i
s hidden run
s
into crores then there is reason to suspect the party.Probably the number of cases where they forget the hidden money may be
a
few and may run into a maximum of one or two lakhs in each case.''
D.S.Ranga Rao
8379813275
9969 069 144
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From: Prabhakara Rao <prabhakara50@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
To: Ranga Rao <dsrangarao@gmail.com>
From: Prabhakara Rao <prabhakara50@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
To: Ranga Rao <dsrangarao@gmail.com>
I feel in this case the party can directly approach the reserve bank branch to deposit the amount giving proper explanation. That way they can save money from spending as lawyer's fee. If one is not corrupt he can boldly give the explanation (even an affidavit) at the time of depositing the money in RBI. If the money that was hidden running into crores then there is reason to suspect the party.
Probably the number of cases where they forget the hidden money may be few and may run into a maximum of one or two lakhs in each case.
Regards,
Prabhakara Rao
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Ranga Rao <dsrangarao@gmail.com> wrote:
Regards,
D.S.Ranga Rao
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From: MG Kapoor <mgkapoor.1962@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.netI feel filing a writ petition in the High Court may be, perhaps, the best answer. Your case appears very genuine. You may implead Governor RBI and the Union of India (through the Secretary, Ministry of Finance) as the parties. The writ application should be from your wife who should support the averments on affidavit, giving details as to how she came to be in possession of the money. It is a known fact that wives do save money from the household expenses given to them by their husbands, gifts from parents, brothers etc. And they do keep such money in such places as cannot be detected by anyone, including the husband, or be stolen. And at times wives do forget where they kept the money.But unfortunately litigation is expensive. It may be a case of the monkey gaining from the fight between two cats - I mean lawyer may gain by way of fee.The strongest ground could be "The promise that the RBI Governor has made to pay on demand". Such promise cannot be revoked at the instance of the third Party (Govt).Another sound ground being that Mr Modi had earlier promised that after 31 Dec 2016 one could deposit the old currency with the RBI till 31 March 2017.High Court has the power and in an appropriate case may issue writ.I wish you success.MG
Sent from my iPhoneWhile packing to move house, in Bangalore, my wife and I discovered, yesterday, one lakh rupees in demonetised notes in our steel cupboard, which we had kept aside for medical and other emergencies (we are both well above 60 years and retired from government service- army and banking), and overlooked to deposit by Dec 30.Can anyone, under the unexpected circumstances, suggest the best possible solution to help us out and whom to contact for same?
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[IAC#RG] Where is Jai Jawan Jai Kisan
Whether every Army personnel present here is only retired officer and no lower grade personnel is present.
I was only going to highlight such a issue in my last 2 mails which were unpublished. When the personnel who is getting food direct from government and in that food there is no governance no trust. Then building trust on cashless economy by general public who has no wire / wireless connection of voice which can reach to justice. And where justice is always delayed.
Focussing again on the video issue first the jawan was going to get punishment but due to media he got transferred. The case seems to be the same case of IAS Ashok Khemka.
When justice will be delivered.
Let Judiciary be active. Let justice delivery be on time. Otherwise it is always denied.
Ankit Khetan
India
Re: [IAC#RG] DELHI GOVERNANCE GO FOR A TOSS
Shri Venkataraman's comment on AAP's neglect of SWM in Delhi, is leg Pulling by failed activist ... disappointed ...
On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Prodipto Roy <prodipto.r@gmail.com> wrote:
're Shri Venkataraman's comment on AAP's neglect of SWM in Delhi, the Municipality is completely controlled by the BJP, the salary arrears/upgrades problem has been festering for months leading to two major strikes, and it is probably the most corrupt municipality in the country given the population it is meant to serve, the finances it collects from property taxes and its legendary muster rolls of ghost workers and lists of corrupt contractors (and JEs, AEs ) over three decades.
However, when I was enquiring about house mutation issues two years ago, other petitioners overheard me complaining and said it wasn't going to require any bribes as AAP (at least then) had put the screws on its functioning such that no officers were demanding bribes of ordinary citizens. My experience corroborates that - absolutely no bribes were even hinted at in my dealings with the property mutation matter.Solid waste management problems exist in all Indian cities due to venal municipal councillors and officers.
Joya Roy
On 9 Jan 2017 21:24, "Venkatraman Ns" <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:ToIndia Against CorruptionDELHI GOVERNANCE GO FOR A TOSSIt is highly disturbing to read that garbage is not being removed in Delhi with accumulation of dirt and filth on the streets ,as the municipal workers have not been paid salary. This would cause spread of contagious disease and pollution which will affect the health of the poor people living in unsafe conditions.It appears that AAP government in Delhi is more interested in disruptive politics and winning election in Goa and Punjab by hoodwinking the voters with their false claim of fighting against corruption .. Obviously, Delhi governance is of least priority to the AAP leaders.A careful review of the performance of AAP rule in Delhi would highlight the fact that very little worthwhile work has been done. In such circumstance, the poll prediction that AAP will do well in Punjab is causing concern. Hope the voters in Punjab will be more alert than the voters in Delhi.N.S..Venkataraman
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Re: [IAC#RG] Scams in Anna Hazare's NGO leads to compulsory audit of 30 Lakh NGOs
Has material,considered adverse to Mr Hazare been shared with the entire media?
Let them come up with their own investigative journalism or sting ops.
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Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] Scams in Anna Hazare's NGO leads to compulsory audit of 30 Lakh NGOs
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Although Anna Hazare regularly gets all kinds of awards in his personal capacity from unregulated entities for services rendered it is not clear where he accounts for these considering the multiplicity of trusts he is involved in but whose accounts are not up-to-date or filed. His main trust the Bhrastachar Virodhi Jan Andolan Nyas (BVJA) was in serious trouble and most of its trustees have disassociated from him and the Jt. Charity Commissioner Pune had even stopped the trust and was on point of appointing an administrator and had frozen its name. After this happened a desperate and penniless Anna Hazare (who had previously repeatedly stated on national television that he was in no way connected to India Against Corruption) even tried to start using IAC's name after his Biopic flopped badly and he was recently reduced to acting for meat / beef exporters and hawala agents for peanuts.
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From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:53 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] Scams in Anna Hazare's NGO leads to compulsory audit of 30 Lakh NGOs
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
The SC PIL by SC Advocate M.L.Sharma exposing the scandals in Anna Hazare's NGO Hind Swaraj Trust which was probed by Justice P.B.Sawant Commission of Inquiry has finally resulted in the SC Bench directing (on 10.Jan.2017) the concerned Govts to ensure audits of Anna 's trusts along with all 30 Lakh NGOs in the country.
India Against Corruption has been regulary cautioning about deceivers like Anna Hazare who act coy and simple in public but whose operstions seem to be functioning on oceans of unaccounted black money in private.How low can such people stoop is the question ? Is it the time near that Anna Haazre will again start recommending politicians like Chauthala to the voters against under the table payoffs made to his close associates in Ralegan Siddhi?
Sarbajit
for INDIA AGAINST CORRUPTION jan andolan
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Re: [IAC#RG] Suggestions Invited: Accidental Discovery of demonetised currency at home post Dec 30 Deadline
A visiting NRI could possibly help!
The actual legal position may have to be checked up.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Of course as National Convenor IAC I have been regularly complaining to RBI and Govt about their failures to comply with section 39. The Bombay High Court Judgement in D'Souza's case [link] is unchallenged and binding that even demonetised notes are to be exchanged for value. You can remind RBI that I was protesting on your behalf also since all our emails are with you. I can share the videos of the massive queues we recorded outside RBI's offices till 30th Dec 2016 which prevented most note holders from entering.I clearly recall that I, you, and all similarly placed members of IAC holding old nates, had been regularly visiting the designated RBI offices to EXCHANGE these old notes (u/s 39 RBI Act 1934) but there was a tremendous shortage of coin and low denomination notes or other legal tender and the RBI could not comply with its statutory obligations. (NB: In the absence of coin from the Govt the RBI cannot issue new notes, since new notes can only be issued against replacement or acknowledgment of future Govt debt).Dear Col. SrikantRead this carefully.By an ordinance the Govt has unilaterally repudiated its sovereign debt contained in the notes you hold thereby releiving the RBI from its obligations to exchange old notes for coin u/s 39 RBI Act.
Ask RBI ("governor@rbi.org.in") pointedly how they will comply with their section 39 obligations to EXCHANGE old notes at their offices for legal tender considering that they did not hold sufficient legal tender notes on those dates in their issue dept to satisfy you and were ratioining notes at a miserly Rs. 2,000 per person.Remember Govt can only extenguish the legal tender characteristic of notes, it cannot extinguish RBI's obligations to EXCHANGE notes on demand at RBI's office without an amendment to the RBI Act. The ordinance issued by the President has set aside the law of Parliament since Parliament is not in session (view ordinance here).
http://www.livelaw.in/president-approves-specified- bank-notes-cessation- liabilities-ordinance-2016/
Of course once Parliament resumes the ordinance lapses in the normal course.SarbajitOn Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Colonel Srikant <colonelsrikant@gmail.com> wrote:While packing to move house, in Bangalore, my wife and I discovered, yesterday, one lakh rupees in demonetised notes in our steel cupboard, which we had kept aside for medical and other emergencies (we are both well above 60 years and retired from government service- army and banking), and overlooked to deposit by Dec 30.Can anyone, under the unexpected circumstances, suggest the best possible solution to help us out and whom to contact for same?
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