Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: BREAKING NEWS: Delhi Govt. on strike, imminent arrests possible.

Listen to Royji. The reality is the AAP leadership has lost their way and no longer are the activists. Only voices of some very few honest activist who want nothing from AAP can penetrate their thick skulls.

eg. On 14th October AAP says that tax exemption will be given to Anna biopic movie. On 15th Royji writes to Kejriwal objecting, and immediately the tax exemption proposal is dropped  Arvind Kejriwal snubs Anna biopic makers

eg: Today at 12 noon Royji writes that BJP does not represent Hindus and is a 'bania' party driven by greed and ambition. Three hours later Arvind Kejriwal says "The reality is that the BJP is not the party of Hindus but of money and power hungry people."

eg: Today IAC exposes AAP plan to shut down Delhi Government website to suppress and delay inconvenient notifications and orders easily reaching Shunglu Committee. Within 4 hours IAC compelled the website to be restored by AAP.

The AAP is the government in power in Delhi and BJP at Centre, the RTI activists like you should stay away from all the corrupt parties and act as watchdogs of democracy

SWARAJ ABHIYAN (2009)

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Surendra,

AFAIK Mr. Raminder Singh is not a Modi Bhakt and neither he is with any political party..

I can also share / confirm that the GNCTD website was down since Fri evening, but after we strongly pursued with Delhi Govt based on Raminder's email the website was restored by 3 pm today (ie. within 4 hours) to the old version.

So please don't fall into trap of reacting and labeling persons just because we don't agree with the message. Also known as "shoot the messenger"

Warmly

Sarbajit

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Surendera M. Bhanot <bhanot1952@gmail.com> wrote:

Modi worship is not going to take you any further. You may have some short term gains but you are loosing public base and earning long term people's wrath!

On 17-Oct-2016 11:35, "Raminder Singh" <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:

FLASH : (India News co) 17 October 2016, 11:23:02 IST

As per reports reaching from our sources, Delhi government has gone on "strike".

Under investigation by Shunglu Committee and since many files and notifications are available on its website to Shunglu Committee, Delhi's IT minister Manish Sisodia has illegally ordered that the entire Delhi Govt website is shut down under pretext of maintenance. This is the state of affairs after Sisodia was quizzed by ACB for over 3 hours and held a press conference soon afterwards.

​

The public wonders when this anarchy in National Capital of Delhi will be arrested ?
 

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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: BREAKING NEWS: Delhi Govt. on strike, imminent arrests possible.

Dear Surendra,

AFAIK Mr. Raminder Singh is not a Modi Bhakt and neither he is with any political party..

I can also share / confirm that the GNCTD website was down since Fri evening, but after we strongly pursued with Delhi Govt based on Raminder's email the website was restored by 3 pm today (ie. within 4 hours) to the old version.

So please don't fall into trap of reacting and labeling persons just because we don't agree with the message. Also known as "shoot the messenger"

Warmly

Sarbajit

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Surendera M. Bhanot <bhanot1952@gmail.com> wrote:

Modi worship is not going to take you any further. You may have some short term gains but you are loosing public base and earning long term people's wrath!

On 17-Oct-2016 11:35, "Raminder Singh" <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:

FLASH : (India News co) 17 October 2016, 11:23:02 IST

As per reports reaching from our sources, Delhi government has gone on "strike".

Under investigation by Shunglu Committee and since many files and notifications are available on its website to Shunglu Committee, Delhi's IT minister Manish Sisodia has illegally ordered that the entire Delhi Govt website is shut down under pretext of maintenance. This is the state of affairs after Sisodia was quizzed by ACB for over 3 hours and held a press conference soon afterwards.

​

The public wonders when this anarchy in National Capital of Delhi will be arrested ?
 

R.S. Pabbi

Sr. Correspondent

Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: BREAKING NEWS: Delhi Govt. on strike, imminent arrests possible.

Modi worship is not going to take you any further. You may have some short term gains but you are loosing public base and earning long term people's wrath!

On 17-Oct-2016 11:35, "Raminder Singh" <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:

FLASH : (India News co) 17 October 2016, 11:23:02 IST

As per reports reaching from our sources, Delhi government has gone on "strike".

Under investigation by Shunglu Committee and since many files and notifications are available on its website to Shunglu Committee, Delhi's IT minister Manish Sisodia has illegally ordered that the entire Delhi Govt website is shut down under pretext of maintenance. This is the state of affairs after Sisodia was quizzed by ACB for over 3 hours and held a press conference soon afterwards.

​

The public wonders when this anarchy in National Capital of Delhi will be arrested ?
 

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Re: [IAC#RG] Law Commission seeks inputs on UCC

Dear Dr. Elangbam

I thank you for your spirited email asking for UCC which I had forwarded to my seniors. Please see the bolded words below in context.

Since my movement is inclined to oppose UCC I am sharing some inputs for you.

1) My movement is historically (for over 200 years) and publicly in favour of propagation of "HINDUTVA" in India and the world.

2) My movement is historically (for over 200 years) and publicly in favour of Unified India, ie. AKHAND HINDUSTAN stretching from Burma to Afghanistan and from whole of Indian Ocean to Sri Lanka, Tibet and beyond Arunachal Pradesh as a living space for Hindus and Hindu cuture.

3) That we do not support the RSS (Rashtriya Swayam Sewak Sangh) who no doubt posture as defenders of Hinduism, but had sold out their movement to USA sometime in the late 1930s after Dr. Hedgewar's ill heath. The RSS does not at all represent Hindus today but only a tiny section of Hindus called "banias" who are corrupting the nation in name of Hindutva for their personal profit/ gain.

4) That my movement has studied foreign / alien religions for many centuries and know well their devilish ways and tricks to render Hindus impotent.

5) My movement especially views the UCC as a fiendish foreign device (trick) to convert India into a nation of sheep and make us into impotent "peaceniks" ever content to stay confined within some arbitrary drawn territorial borders no Hindu patriot would accept. Islam and Hinduism both had clearly understood why polygamy is an option to be retained in any martial society.

6) That silent majority of Hindus are as equally against UCC being imposed on them as Muslims are.

Sincerely

Sarbajit Roy

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:11 PM, kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All,

We must support UCC and give reasons in absolute terms.

This country will go to dogs, ungovernable in future and the very existence will be at stake.

May we may antagonize a sizable section of the population, never mind,  even amongst them there are a great silent majority, who wish to express their mind and raise their voice but just because of the same fear of the fundamentalist, they are forced to be quite.

Let us rise above politics and all other issues for the sake of the nation; we should submit an unanimous view of approval to establish UCC.

Dr K S Elangbam

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Amitava Sanyal <saamit1@hotmail.com> wrote:

5. Not optional

6. Regulated

Sent from my Samsung device

-------- Original message --------
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Date: 10-13-2016 12:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Law Commission seeks inputs on UCC

5. No

6. Regulated

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

To get a sense of the mood of our subscribers, we are seeking inputs on 2 queries which the Law Commission has posed

http://lawcommissionofindia.nic.in/questionnaire.pdf

5. Should the Uniform Civil Code be optional ?

a) Yes

b) No

6. Should the following practices be banned / regulated ?

a) Polygamy

b) Polyandry
c) Maitri-karar (friendship deed) and similar customary practices

Subscribers may post their views

Sarbajit

On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 11:26 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

If our members wish we can discuss the Law Commission's UCC questionnaire which is accessible here
http://lawcommissionofindia.nic.in/questionnaire.pdf

Sarbajit

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Re: [IAC#RG] Law Commission seeks inputs on UCC

Dear Sir,

Good AN and thanks for your unending initiatives for betterment of the country and fight against corruption.

Well - my belief in your line of action has multiplied many fold when I am seeing Delhi CM and his doings today,whom I supported vehemently during agitation days and you predicted about his real DNA long back. Great Sir.

As far as UCC, I am of the view that opposing it ab intio may not be good. This initiative may not be the best option available but under present eco system - there seems to be no better option either.

Regards.

SR Singh

On Monday 17 October 2016, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Shri Gaur and Ors.

Shri Gaur's and Dr. K S Elangbam emails have been considered at highest levels of HRA since "Hindutva" and "secularism" are IAC's lodestar

At the outset, IAC had received about 800+ emails on this topic, which we were unable to circulate because of our list limitations. Of these the vast majority (>90%) are of the view that UCC be made compulsory and the specified practices be regulated / prohibited.

A similarly widespread exercise was also conducted at grass roots (non-urban intellectual) level among the affected populations, including tribals, by Hindustan Republican Army which presents quite the opposite view.

Since this clearly indicates attempts to polarise the population into "Hindus" versus "others" - elections in some states are not far away - and considering the background of the present Chairman Law Commission who has clearly drafted the questionnaire in a biased and polarising manner, IAC and HRA have jointly decided that to defend the customary way of life, including Hindu caste system of superior Hindus (eg that Brahmins are entitled to 4 wives, Kshatriyas entitled to 3 wives, Vaishyas/Baidyas entitled to 2 wives etc.) and the rights of tribals and indigenous people (who constitute over 30% of India's voting citizens and are not Hindus in law - no matter what ilk of Dr. Sunramaniam Swamy claim) both IAC and HRA are (draft) circulating as follows:-

1) That India Against Corruption opposes the Uniform Civil Code until such time as

a) All personal laws are abolished,

b) Legal definition of "Hindu" (as person not Muslim, Christian, Parsi, Jew etc) contained in the Hindu Code (Hindu codified laws of 1954-1956 era) is deleted from all statute books, (NB: "Hindu" is a foreign term),

c) Any other matters the IAC subscribers propose and resolve

NB: This is only a draft proposal circulated for discussion, and those responding are requested to make reasoned / legalistic / non-emotional arguments with citations.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. S.Roy.
You must participate whole heartily. But in my view we have to be first clear what are the civil rights you want to codify. Civil rights like liberty equality are all covered by the fundamental rights. Here it is basically concerned with religious rights including marriage divorce property rights and all. They have played havoc with Hindu laws in a hurried manner. They recognise spindas and customary laws yet they they refuse it on the ground that they do not form a core of the religion. The same problem will happen whether it is Islam or christiniaty. And the politicians do it without proper consultation with religious and social institutions. It should be much large and long process of consultations. Nehru did it for Hindus because they can be managed and left Muslim fearing backlash. In the name of progess and modernity which are basically western thoughts let us not sacrifice basic core values of our future traditions and way of life and hand over all our civil rights to the govt. And courts from birth to death and thereafter.Regds JK gaur

On 10 Oct 2016 23:51, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

If our members wish we can discuss the Law Commission's UCC questionnaire which is accessible here
http://lawcommissionofindia.nic.in/questionnaire.pdf

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Re: [IAC#RG] Law Commission seeks inputs on UCC

Dear Shri Gaur and Ors.

Shri Gaur's and Dr. K S Elangbam emails have been considered at highest levels of HRA since "Hindutva" and "secularism" are IAC's lodestar

At the outset, IAC had received about 800+ emails on this topic, which we were unable to circulate because of our list limitations. Of these the vast majority (>90%) are of the view that UCC be made compulsory and the specified practices be regulated / prohibited.

A similarly widespread exercise was also conducted at grass roots (non-urban intellectual) level among the affected populations, including tribals, by Hindustan Republican Army which presents quite the opposite view.

Since this clearly indicates attempts to polarise the population into "Hindus" versus "others" - elections in some states are not far away - and considering the background of the present Chairman Law Commission who has clearly drafted the questionnaire in a biased and polarising manner, IAC and HRA have jointly decided that to defend the customary way of life, including Hindu caste system of superior Hindus (eg that Brahmins are entitled to 4 wives, Kshatriyas entitled to 3 wives, Vaishyas/Baidyas entitled to 2 wives etc.) and the rights of tribals and indigenous people (who constitute over 30% of India's voting citizens and are not Hindus in law - no matter what ilk of Dr. Sunramaniam Swamy claim) both IAC and HRA are (draft) circulating as follows:-

1) That India Against Corruption opposes the Uniform Civil Code until such time as

a) All personal laws are abolished,

b) Legal definition of "Hindu" (as person not Muslim, Christian, Parsi, Jew etc) contained in the Hindu Code (Hindu codified laws of 1954-1956 era) is deleted from all statute books, (NB: "Hindu" is a foreign term),

c) Any other matters the IAC subscribers propose and resolve

NB: This is only a draft proposal circulated for discussion, and those responding are requested to make reasoned / legalistic / non-emotional arguments with citations.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. S.Roy.
You must participate whole heartily. But in my view we have to be first clear what are the civil rights you want to codify. Civil rights like liberty equality are all covered by the fundamental rights. Here it is basically concerned with religious rights including marriage divorce property rights and all. They have played havoc with Hindu laws in a hurried manner. They recognise spindas and customary laws yet they they refuse it on the ground that they do not form a core of the religion. The same problem will happen whether it is Islam or christiniaty. And the politicians do it without proper consultation with religious and social institutions. It should be much large and long process of consultations. Nehru did it for Hindus because they can be managed and left Muslim fearing backlash. In the name of progess and modernity which are basically western thoughts let us not sacrifice basic core values of our future traditions and way of life and hand over all our civil rights to the govt. And courts from birth to death and thereafter.Regds JK gaur

On 10 Oct 2016 23:51, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

If our members wish we can discuss the Law Commission's UCC questionnaire which is accessible here
http://lawcommissionofindia.nic.in/questionnaire.pdf

Sarbajit

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[IAC#RG] Fwd: BREAKING NEWS: Delhi Govt. on strike, imminent arrests possible.

FLASH : (India News co) 17 October 2016, 11:23:02 IST

As per reports reaching from our sources, Delhi government has gone on "strike".

Under investigation by Shunglu Committee and since many files and notifications are available on its website to Shunglu Committee, Delhi's IT minister Manish Sisodia has illegally ordered that the entire Delhi Govt website is shut down under pretext of maintenance. This is the state of affairs after Sisodia was quizzed by ACB for over 3 hours and held a press conference soon afterwards.

​

The public wonders when this anarchy in National Capital of Delhi will be arrested ?
 

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