Sunday, September 25, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

Let us separate two issues- corruption and governance. Kejrival fought election on corruption and has miserably failed on governance. And whatever Mr. S. Roy say or defend himself it is the India against corruption Jan andolan which gave a public face to kejrival otherwise who knew him before.  S. Roy' claim that he had disassociated himself from that andolan does not change the subsequent development leading to kejrival , landslide victory and miserable failure in governance. Doling out subsidity on water and electricity is no substute for financial health.
It is also fact that s.roy' s language is aciditic in extreme when it comes to attacking any person or country whether is modi or united states. He is equally so when some people find fault with his judgements or pronouncement. That is certainly not a hallmark of a democrat.
For the p.m less said is better. But no one deny he is doing his best considering the political economic and strategic environment prevailing today.
I have always found Mr. Venkteraman  very responsible in his comments. Location has no meaning. Then we start questioning the wisdom leaders from south the list of which is very long.

On 26 Sep 2016 10:08, "R. Dua" <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Respected Sirs,
We all read both your write-ups very regularly and avidly, if i may say so.
Sir, the facts from the posts are very insightful.
Only one thing which bothers us is to call personal names to an office of The PM is quite unwanted.
Our PM is doing ten persons work alone.Anyone can see that.
Institutionally our Respected PM is trying to take maximum initiative in diplomatic as well as development issues.
We have never seen files move so fast ever in India.

Keeping the Indian demographics in mind we don't think matters unresolved can be solved any better.
Yes, certain areas do need constant diligence which we can see IAC covering regularly.
Sir, we all know that all of us want our India to progress and not regress to 60s and 70s.
Thanks for keeping us posted.


On 25 Sep 2016 21:10, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Venkatraman

I shall address all the points in your email. If I have left out any, inadvertently, please flag them

Firstly, let me say that I am not a stranger to weapons technologies. For eg. in my early days as an engineer I worked on aspects of firing control systems for a navy ship, and later hydraulics of the Arjun Main Battle Tank then worked on reverse engineering Russian spare parts for MiGs.

2) Since you are from Chennai, I cite the Hindu dt. Sep. 25, 2016
"Rafale deal welcome but fleet small: Experts"

Their "experts" agree that the deal "seems to have been guided more by "political prudence than operational requirements."

Decoded this represents the 'bania' bean counting approach from PMO / MoD babus which has strangled the operational capabilities of our armed forces.

Since IAC stands, unequivocally, for India's territorial integrity and for a LARGER INDIA ('Akhand Bharat') I was shocked at the PM's public statements that henceforth war with Pakistan would be fought economically through better schools and health and not through a fitting military response at the appropriate time / place of our army's choosing. IAC is not at all like Kejriwal or Prashant Bhushan asking for referendums in J&K after forces are withdrawn and I am shocked you are clubbing us with them.

If anyone is apeing Kejriwal it is Mr. Modi and not IAC. Mr. Modi is a politician appealing to vote banks. IAC has no such considerations when we write. It is the limited SUCCESS of AAP in Delhi on schools and health and water delivery which is causing Mr. Modi's party so much angst in crucial border states like Punjab at poll time.

In any case, if there is any controversy on who propped up Kejriwal, let me say unequivocally, that it was Mr. Ajit Doval and friends since at least 2010 and they continue to control him.

Doval's rogue network  (although in retrospect 'network of rogues' is a better descriptor) comprises also a vast network of so-called Hindu militant / pseudo-nationalist fringe persons and failed police officers ultimately owing loyalty to the United States of America. Their gameplan is to convert India into a partner in the USA's war on terror, in other words, India is to replace Pakistan in the USA's scheme of things.

IAC also stands unequivocally for INDIA FIRST. IAC shall always oppose India's being a puppet state of any imperialist power.

It is crystal clear that the Government of India will engage in a war, limited or unlimited, with Pakistan in the near future - and certainly within Mr. Modi's present term. IAC has therefore publicly questioned the KNEE JERK reaction of MoD in desperately contacting foreign arms suppliers asking for vast off-the-shelf purchases in great haste recently. As per my sources, which are as good as Mr. Doval's, Rosoboronexport is inundated with inquiries in last week. Same goes for all the former Soviet states which have manufacturing capacity.

So let IAC ask 1 question, and I dare you Mr. Venkatraman to answer it.

Who was the corrupt US sponsored CIA puppet in Modi sarkar cabinet who effectively imposed CUSTOMS DUTY on ARMAMENT IMPORTS by Govt. wef 2015-16 by withdrawing vital customs duty exemptions ?

Previously, MoD / Forces did not have to pay Customs duty on their imports. After these CBEC changes, contracted armaments started arriving at docks and were standing in the open for months because no corresponding budgetary provision had been made for payment of the customs duty. The situation became so grave that shipments were being turned back on the high seas. All this happened between Feb 2016 and May 2016. Do you wish to dispute this Mr. Venkatraman ? Should I name the Minister ? Because I stand by this statement, and what is known to me (a common citizen) is obviously known also to Pakis who were quick to exploit the situation and our lack of operational readiness, I am alleging corruption.

Several loopholes still exist, for eg. Supplier A ships arms, 10% of which are defective and need to be replaced. Because of this new customs duty situation, supplier A will not easly accept the defective goods back to replace it because they will not bear double customs duty. There was a fierce tussle going on over this (unreported), but Mr. Parrikar unfortunately is a lightweight and ultimately our forces are bleeding because of such nonsense.

There is also apparently a fundamental principle known as "vicarious liability" which the BJP spokesperson Mr. Sambit Patra explained when I appeared with him on Arnab's show on 15th Sept.  Simply put this means if there is any corrupt decision by the BJP cabinet then Mr. Modi is responsible for it.

Now to the facts of the RAFAEL deal.

As the Hindu says, the French Airforce purchased their planes at 55 million Euros each. In comparison ours are to cost Euro 225 million each. ie. about 4.1x times more. Do the maths yourself. So either I am wrong or 'The Hindu' is wrong with their figures.

So kindly explain, Mr. Venkatraman how I am wrong when I say that India is buying the Rafaels at 4 times the cost to their own French airforce.

If you want I can decode for you Air Marshal Matheswaran's observations about customisations and tweaks. BUT, I am sure that the 6,000 IESM's on this channel can do it better for you.

So, let us put the nation first and politics last, and focus on our mission to fight corruption by exposing such scandals irrespective of which party has committed them,.Thre is no abusive word being used.,We are very careful when we write.

Sarbajit


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
It is disgusting to receive such write ups  where abusive and vituperative language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been freely used., without responsible journalism. .

Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided suddenly.   It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with it in this country today.

With person  like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim that they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language but substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.

N.S.Venkataraman



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)




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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

Nepal-India Relation: BJP, Narendra Modi & Constitutional Monarchy and
Hindu Kingdom in Nepal

Nepal and India are only the two pious Hindu countries in the world.
These Hindu countries are bordered in between Kailash-Mansarowar in
north and Hinda-Mahasagar in south, which is popularly known as the
original place of Hindu and Hinduism. A nation is not only a specified
geography but is a beautiful home of diverse people who are bonded by
a common philosophy and culture. However common civilisations with
common beliefs of life and identical socio-cultural traditions often
extend beyond the boarder of countries. Nepal and India are not only
spatially co-located neighbors but are also two pious lands following
the greatest philosophy of the universe-

'Hinduism.' probably only we, two are Hindu countries in the world. I
want to focus obviously is on conservation of our common identity that
is Hinduism and a sustainable cordiality between our two countries.
Hinduism and its cultural traditions have a long history spanning over
a period of thousands and thousands of years and developed over
several eras. It is understood that human civilization started to
advance since the Vedic age. Among all religions of the world,
Vedic-Hindu religion is considered as an ancient religion that is
recognized as the foundation of civilization and as the most liberal
democratic way of life. Hinduism is the mother of all religions. Hindu
religion is the most personally expansive and psychologically
empowering religion on earth.

Hinduism is our identity, Hinduism is our dignity, Hinduism is our
life. It is the pride that we are part of it. The essences of Nepalese
nationalism are- Hinduism, constitutional monarchy and Nepali
language. These three are typical identifying symbols of Nepal.
Nepalese royal institution basically was known for national unity and
patriotism. Nepal's sovereignty, integrity and national pride were
addressed by monarchy. Nepal is not only an ancient sovereign country
but also a Hindu Kingdom in the world. The small and pious Hindu and
Buddha country, Nepal always seeks a permanent, loyal and respected
permanent institution–the monarchy. Any student of political science
should agree with me that the strategic and geo-socio-political
situation of Nepal mandatorily demands the existence of monarchical
institution in the country. The monarchy and Hindu Kingdom both are
inter-related identified symbols of Nepal. Our concern is national
stability, unity and complete democracy.

Since 2006, Nepal's situation has been gradually deteriorated. This is
because our basic foundations are violated; consequently national
unity and sustainable peace has not been achieved. The constitution is
non-functional with the annulment of the constitution of 1990 that was
suddenly suspended without any reason. The country has been
unconstitutionally declared so called republic and secular state. This
is in fact, foremost cause of the deteriorative situation of the
country. Now, we are facing the most terrible crisis. Probably we are
experiencing the darkest period of our entire history. Who is
responsible for this deterioration? Let me try to explain. I think
basically there are two reasons. The first is internal reason that is
corrupted, visionless and politically incapable party leaders. Second
reason is vested interest of some foreign powers and their notorious
interference. Due to the eccentric corrupt characters of the party
leaders in Nepal, the political, social and economic disintegration is
continuing all over these days. They failed to understand the reality
the country and desire of our people. They are traitors. The parties
are choosing the ethnic lines to operate themselves to break Nepalese
unity. This is tantamount to ping for a suicidal path.

In fact, Americans and the Christian Europeans want to turn Nepal into
a Christian nation. The vested interest of foreigners is to watch and
spy India and China. They know Hinduism philosophy is one of the major
tools for India to emerge as world power. They believe India can be
weakened attacking Hinduism. Both Americans and Europeans want to
unrest China through free Tibet politics. They think by this, they may
reduce the influence of Buddhism in Tibet and China. As they are
planned to exploit Nepal as base station, they want a control over the
Nepalese administration. They think religion is best medium to
penetrate. This is what they have already practiced and succeeded in
Africa. The Nepalese monarchy of course, was major obstacle for them.
Meanwhile in India, Sonia Gandhi (who is Christian and always against
to Nepalese monarch) led congress regime came in power. With the
common agenda, Americans, Europeans and then Indian Congress led
government's intelligence acted upon Nepal. For this, they used some
Nepalese party leaders as their puppets. And the game plan was
implemented in the name of peoples' movement.

India has witnessed the historical victory of nationalist patriotic
power as a democratic practice of world's largest democracy. We
heartily congratulate Prime minister Sri Narendra Modi, a visionary
leader. We believe Indo-Nepal relations will find new dimensions with
new government of India. We are against any interference. But we
always seek positive support and developmental cooperation. At this
time, we are in crisis. All Nepali people want India be supportive in
reinstating our lost pride-Hinduism and constitutional monarch. The
Nepalese monarch always has goodwill with India. The fact is that the
Nepalese monarchs held special right for carrying out ritualistic
worship in many Hindu shrines and temples in India. Then, India's
Hindutwa also can be dignified.

It is highly appreciable that current Indian leaders have made
statements for our side. Here I want to quote some statements. Senior
leader of B.J.P Lalkrishna Advani had said: 'The framework for
constitutional monarchy in Nepal should be consolidated because
monarchy is the symbol of Nepal's identity and sovereignty. Nepal
should have an active and dynamic multi-party democracy'. Present Home
minister and the BJP leader Rajnath Singh said- 'We used to feel proud
that Nepal was the only Hindu kingdom in the world,' Singh said. 'I
will be happy when Nepal is a Hindu state again. 'We used to feel
proud that Nepal was the only Hindu kingdom in the world. 'I will be
happy when Nepal is a Hindu state again. No one is appealing to the
Islamic states of Pakistan and Bangladesh to become secular. But it
was done in Nepal.' - 2010-3-22, in Nepal. Foreign Relations
Department Chief of BJP Vijay Jolly said-' I am a Hindu who follows
Hinduism. I am much upset as a decision on such an important topic was
taken without taking people's opinion' July 4th 2014 Kathmandu.

Here I would like put forward some suggestions for Indian leadership
in the issues of Nepal. The first thing is strengthening the cordial
bilateral relation at peoples' level. Secondly, in order to conserve
Hinduism in Nepal and India and to maintain harmonious relation with
Nepal, Bharatiya Janta Party should support to restore the only Hindu
Kingdom in the world with constitutional monarchy. Thirdly, BJP Govt.
must reconstruct the Hindu temples and Dhams and have to inform the
world about the glory of Hindu religion. Fourth, Nepal and India
should have to organize a High class Commission to solve the existing
and rising problems of the temples, Dams and pilgrimages for the
harmonious relation among the Nepalese and Indian visitors and
pilgrimages.

In conclusion, Nepal has cordially sustainable relationship with
India. Being identity and survival essence, Nepal must reinstate Hindu
Kingdom and constitutional monarch. India should positive and
supportive role.
Thank you
Dirgha Raj Prasai
Kathmandu


On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:19 AM, R. Dua <r.dua1234@gmail.com> wrote:
> Respected Sirs,
> We all read both your write-ups very regularly and avidly, if i may say so.
> Sir, the facts from the posts are very insightful.
> Only one thing which bothers us is to call personal names to an office of
> The PM is quite unwanted.
> Our PM is doing ten persons work alone.Anyone can see that.
> Institutionally our Respected PM is trying to take maximum initiative in
> diplomatic as well as development issues.
> We have never seen files move so fast ever in India.
>
> Keeping the Indian demographics in mind we don't think matters unresolved
> can be solved any better.
> Yes, certain areas do need constant diligence which we can see IAC covering
> regularly.
> Sir, we all know that all of us want our India to progress and not regress
> to 60s and 70s.
> Thanks for keeping us posted.
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2016 21:10, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mr. Venkatraman
>>
>> I shall address all the points in your email. If I have left out any,
>> inadvertently, please flag them
>>
>> Firstly, let me say that I am not a stranger to weapons technologies. For
>> eg. in my early days as an engineer I worked on aspects of firing control
>> systems for a navy ship, and later hydraulics of the Arjun Main Battle Tank
>> then worked on reverse engineering Russian spare parts for MiGs.
>>
>> 2) Since you are from Chennai, I cite the Hindu dt. Sep. 25, 2016
>> "Rafale deal welcome but fleet small: Experts"
>>
>> Their "experts" agree that the deal "seems to have been guided more by
>> "political prudence than operational requirements."
>>
>> Decoded this represents the 'bania' bean counting approach from PMO / MoD
>> babus which has strangled the operational capabilities of our armed forces.
>>
>> Since IAC stands, unequivocally, for India's territorial integrity and for
>> a LARGER INDIA ('Akhand Bharat') I was shocked at the PM's public statements
>> that henceforth war with Pakistan would be fought economically through
>> better schools and health and not through a fitting military response at the
>> appropriate time / place of our army's choosing. IAC is not at all like
>> Kejriwal or Prashant Bhushan asking for referendums in J&K after forces are
>> withdrawn and I am shocked you are clubbing us with them.
>>
>> If anyone is apeing Kejriwal it is Mr. Modi and not IAC. Mr. Modi is a
>> politician appealing to vote banks. IAC has no such considerations when we
>> write. It is the limited SUCCESS of AAP in Delhi on schools and health and
>> water delivery which is causing Mr. Modi's party so much angst in crucial
>> border states like Punjab at poll time.
>>
>> In any case, if there is any controversy on who propped up Kejriwal, let
>> me say unequivocally, that it was Mr. Ajit Doval and friends since at least
>> 2010 and they continue to control him.
>>
>> Doval's rogue network (although in retrospect 'network of rogues' is a
>> better descriptor) comprises also a vast network of so-called Hindu militant
>> / pseudo-nationalist fringe persons and failed police officers ultimately
>> owing loyalty to the United States of America. Their gameplan is to convert
>> India into a partner in the USA's war on terror, in other words, India is to
>> replace Pakistan in the USA's scheme of things.
>>
>> IAC also stands unequivocally for INDIA FIRST. IAC shall always oppose
>> India's being a puppet state of any imperialist power.
>>
>> It is crystal clear that the Government of India will engage in a war,
>> limited or unlimited, with Pakistan in the near future - and certainly
>> within Mr. Modi's present term. IAC has therefore publicly questioned the
>> KNEE JERK reaction of MoD in desperately contacting foreign arms suppliers
>> asking for vast off-the-shelf purchases in great haste recently. As per my
>> sources, which are as good as Mr. Doval's, Rosoboronexport is inundated with
>> inquiries in last week. Same goes for all the former Soviet states which
>> have manufacturing capacity.
>>
>> So let IAC ask 1 question, and I dare you Mr. Venkatraman to answer it.
>>
>> Who was the corrupt US sponsored CIA puppet in Modi sarkar cabinet who
>> effectively imposed CUSTOMS DUTY on ARMAMENT IMPORTS by Govt. wef 2015-16 by
>> withdrawing vital customs duty exemptions ?
>>
>> Previously, MoD / Forces did not have to pay Customs duty on their
>> imports. After these CBEC changes, contracted armaments started arriving at
>> docks and were standing in the open for months because no corresponding
>> budgetary provision had been made for payment of the customs duty. The
>> situation became so grave that shipments were being turned back on the high
>> seas. All this happened between Feb 2016 and May 2016. Do you wish to
>> dispute this Mr. Venkatraman ? Should I name the Minister ? Because I stand
>> by this statement, and what is known to me (a common citizen) is obviously
>> known also to Pakis who were quick to exploit the situation and our lack of
>> operational readiness, I am alleging corruption.
>>
>> Several loopholes still exist, for eg. Supplier A ships arms, 10% of which
>> are defective and need to be replaced. Because of this new customs duty
>> situation, supplier A will not easly accept the defective goods back to
>> replace it because they will not bear double customs duty. There was a
>> fierce tussle going on over this (unreported), but Mr. Parrikar
>> unfortunately is a lightweight and ultimately our forces are bleeding
>> because of such nonsense.
>>
>> There is also apparently a fundamental principle known as "vicarious
>> liability" which the BJP spokesperson Mr. Sambit Patra explained when I
>> appeared with him on Arnab's show on 15th Sept. Simply put this means if
>> there is any corrupt decision by the BJP cabinet then Mr. Modi is
>> responsible for it.
>>
>> Now to the facts of the RAFAEL deal.
>>
>> As the Hindu says, the French Airforce purchased their planes at 55
>> million Euros each. In comparison ours are to cost Euro 225 million each.
>> ie. about 4.1x times more. Do the maths yourself. So either I am wrong or
>> 'The Hindu' is wrong with their figures.
>>
>> So kindly explain, Mr. Venkatraman how I am wrong when I say that India is
>> buying the Rafaels at 4 times the cost to their own French airforce.
>>
>> If you want I can decode for you Air Marshal Matheswaran's observations
>> about customisations and tweaks. BUT, I am sure that the 6,000 IESM's on
>> this channel can do it better for you.
>>
>> So, let us put the nation first and politics last, and focus on our
>> mission to fight corruption by exposing such scandals irrespective of which
>> party has committed them,.Thre is no abusive word being used.,We are very
>> careful when we write.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Venkatraman Ns
>> <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is disgusting to receive such write ups where abusive and
>>> vituperative language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been
>>> freely used., without responsible journalism. .
>>>
>>> Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided
>>> suddenly. It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with it
>>> in this country today.
>>>
>>> With person like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing
>>> faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim that
>>> they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language but
>>> substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they
>>> would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.
>>>
>>> N.S.Venkataraman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the
>>>> 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit
>>>> impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose
>>>> and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

Respected Sirs,
We all read both your write-ups very regularly and avidly, if i may say so.
Sir, the facts from the posts are very insightful.
Only one thing which bothers us is to call personal names to an office of The PM is quite unwanted.
Our PM is doing ten persons work alone.Anyone can see that.
Institutionally our Respected PM is trying to take maximum initiative in diplomatic as well as development issues.
We have never seen files move so fast ever in India.

Keeping the Indian demographics in mind we don't think matters unresolved can be solved any better.
Yes, certain areas do need constant diligence which we can see IAC covering regularly.
Sir, we all know that all of us want our India to progress and not regress to 60s and 70s.
Thanks for keeping us posted.


On 25 Sep 2016 21:10, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Venkatraman

I shall address all the points in your email. If I have left out any, inadvertently, please flag them

Firstly, let me say that I am not a stranger to weapons technologies. For eg. in my early days as an engineer I worked on aspects of firing control systems for a navy ship, and later hydraulics of the Arjun Main Battle Tank then worked on reverse engineering Russian spare parts for MiGs.

2) Since you are from Chennai, I cite the Hindu dt. Sep. 25, 2016
"Rafale deal welcome but fleet small: Experts"

Their "experts" agree that the deal "seems to have been guided more by "political prudence than operational requirements."

Decoded this represents the 'bania' bean counting approach from PMO / MoD babus which has strangled the operational capabilities of our armed forces.

Since IAC stands, unequivocally, for India's territorial integrity and for a LARGER INDIA ('Akhand Bharat') I was shocked at the PM's public statements that henceforth war with Pakistan would be fought economically through better schools and health and not through a fitting military response at the appropriate time / place of our army's choosing. IAC is not at all like Kejriwal or Prashant Bhushan asking for referendums in J&K after forces are withdrawn and I am shocked you are clubbing us with them.

If anyone is apeing Kejriwal it is Mr. Modi and not IAC. Mr. Modi is a politician appealing to vote banks. IAC has no such considerations when we write. It is the limited SUCCESS of AAP in Delhi on schools and health and water delivery which is causing Mr. Modi's party so much angst in crucial border states like Punjab at poll time.

In any case, if there is any controversy on who propped up Kejriwal, let me say unequivocally, that it was Mr. Ajit Doval and friends since at least 2010 and they continue to control him.

Doval's rogue network  (although in retrospect 'network of rogues' is a better descriptor) comprises also a vast network of so-called Hindu militant / pseudo-nationalist fringe persons and failed police officers ultimately owing loyalty to the United States of America. Their gameplan is to convert India into a partner in the USA's war on terror, in other words, India is to replace Pakistan in the USA's scheme of things.

IAC also stands unequivocally for INDIA FIRST. IAC shall always oppose India's being a puppet state of any imperialist power.

It is crystal clear that the Government of India will engage in a war, limited or unlimited, with Pakistan in the near future - and certainly within Mr. Modi's present term. IAC has therefore publicly questioned the KNEE JERK reaction of MoD in desperately contacting foreign arms suppliers asking for vast off-the-shelf purchases in great haste recently. As per my sources, which are as good as Mr. Doval's, Rosoboronexport is inundated with inquiries in last week. Same goes for all the former Soviet states which have manufacturing capacity.

So let IAC ask 1 question, and I dare you Mr. Venkatraman to answer it.

Who was the corrupt US sponsored CIA puppet in Modi sarkar cabinet who effectively imposed CUSTOMS DUTY on ARMAMENT IMPORTS by Govt. wef 2015-16 by withdrawing vital customs duty exemptions ?

Previously, MoD / Forces did not have to pay Customs duty on their imports. After these CBEC changes, contracted armaments started arriving at docks and were standing in the open for months because no corresponding budgetary provision had been made for payment of the customs duty. The situation became so grave that shipments were being turned back on the high seas. All this happened between Feb 2016 and May 2016. Do you wish to dispute this Mr. Venkatraman ? Should I name the Minister ? Because I stand by this statement, and what is known to me (a common citizen) is obviously known also to Pakis who were quick to exploit the situation and our lack of operational readiness, I am alleging corruption.

Several loopholes still exist, for eg. Supplier A ships arms, 10% of which are defective and need to be replaced. Because of this new customs duty situation, supplier A will not easly accept the defective goods back to replace it because they will not bear double customs duty. There was a fierce tussle going on over this (unreported), but Mr. Parrikar unfortunately is a lightweight and ultimately our forces are bleeding because of such nonsense.

There is also apparently a fundamental principle known as "vicarious liability" which the BJP spokesperson Mr. Sambit Patra explained when I appeared with him on Arnab's show on 15th Sept.  Simply put this means if there is any corrupt decision by the BJP cabinet then Mr. Modi is responsible for it.

Now to the facts of the RAFAEL deal.

As the Hindu says, the French Airforce purchased their planes at 55 million Euros each. In comparison ours are to cost Euro 225 million each. ie. about 4.1x times more. Do the maths yourself. So either I am wrong or 'The Hindu' is wrong with their figures.

So kindly explain, Mr. Venkatraman how I am wrong when I say that India is buying the Rafaels at 4 times the cost to their own French airforce.

If you want I can decode for you Air Marshal Matheswaran's observations about customisations and tweaks. BUT, I am sure that the 6,000 IESM's on this channel can do it better for you.

So, let us put the nation first and politics last, and focus on our mission to fight corruption by exposing such scandals irrespective of which party has committed them,.Thre is no abusive word being used.,We are very careful when we write.

Sarbajit


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
It is disgusting to receive such write ups  where abusive and vituperative language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been freely used., without responsible journalism. .

Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided suddenly.   It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with it in this country today.

With person  like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim that they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language but substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.

N.S.Venkataraman



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)




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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

It's a befitting answer with facts empowering those all who are silent
vigilantes.
:)


On 9/25/16, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Venkatraman
>
> I shall address all the points in your email. If I have left out any,
> inadvertently, please flag them
>
> Firstly, let me say that I am not a stranger to weapons technologies. For
> eg. in my early days as an engineer I worked on aspects of firing control
> systems for a navy ship, and later hydraulics of the Arjun Main Battle Tank
> then worked on reverse engineering Russian spare parts for MiGs.
>
> 2) Since you are from Chennai, I cite the Hindu dt. Sep. 25, 2016
> "*Rafale deal welcome but fleet small: Experts*
> <http://www.thehindu.com/news/rafale-deal-welcome-but-fleet-small-experts/article9144910.ece>
> "
>
> Their "experts" agree that the deal "*seems to have been guided more by
> "political prudence than operational requirements.*"
>
> Decoded this represents the '*bania*' bean counting approach from PMO / MoD
> babus which has strangled the operational capabilities of our armed forces.
>
> Since IAC stands, unequivocally, for India's territorial integrity and for
> a LARGER INDIA ('*Akhand Bharat*') I was shocked at the PM's public
> statements that henceforth war with Pakistan would be fought economically
> through better schools and health and not through a fitting military
> response at the appropriate time / place of our army's choosing. IAC is not
> at all like Kejriwal or Prashant Bhushan asking for referendums in J&K
> after forces are withdrawn and I am shocked you are clubbing us with them.
>
> If anyone is apeing Kejriwal it is Mr. Modi and not IAC. Mr. Modi is a
> politician appealing to vote banks. IAC has no such considerations when we
> write. It is the limited SUCCESS of AAP in Delhi on schools and health and
> water delivery which is causing Mr. Modi's party so much angst in crucial
> border states like Punjab at poll time.
>
> In any case, if there is any controversy on who propped up Kejriwal, let me
> say unequivocally, that it was Mr. Ajit Doval and friends since at least
> 2010 and *they continue to control him*.
>
> Doval's rogue network (although in retrospect 'network of rogues' is a
> better descriptor) comprises also a vast network of so-called Hindu
> militant / pseudo-nationalist fringe persons and failed police officers
> ultimately owing loyalty to the United States of America. Their gameplan is
> to convert India into a partner in the USA's war on terror, in other words,
> India is to replace Pakistan in the USA's scheme of things.
>
> IAC also stands unequivocally for INDIA FIRST. IAC shall always oppose
> India's being a puppet state of any imperialist power.
>
> It is crystal clear that the Government of India will engage in a war,
> limited or unlimited, with Pakistan in the near future - and certainly
> within Mr. Modi's present term. IAC has therefore publicly questioned the
> KNEE JERK reaction of MoD in desperately contacting foreign arms suppliers
> asking for vast off-the-shelf purchases in great haste recently. As per my
> sources, which are as good as Mr. Doval's, *Rosoboronexport* is inundated
> with inquiries in last week. Same goes for all the former Soviet states
> which have manufacturing capacity.
>
> So let IAC ask 1 question, and I dare you Mr. Venkatraman to answer it.
>
>
> *Who was the corrupt US sponsored CIA puppet in Modi sarkar cabinet who
> effectively imposed CUSTOMS DUTY on ARMAMENT IMPORTS by Govt. wef 2015-16
> by withdrawing vital customs duty exemptions ?*
> Previously, MoD / Forces did not have to pay Customs duty on their imports.
> After these CBEC changes, contracted armaments started arriving at docks
> and were standing in the open for months because no corresponding budgetary
> provision had been made for payment of the customs duty. The situation
> became so grave that shipments were being turned back on the high seas. All
> this happened between Feb 2016 and May 2016. *Do you wish to dispute this
> Mr. Venkatraman* ? Should I name the Minister ? Because I stand by this
> statement, and what is known to me (a common citizen) is obviously known
> also to Pakis who were quick to exploit the situation and our lack of
> operational readiness, I am alleging corruption.
>
> Several loopholes still exist, for eg. Supplier A ships arms, 10% of which
> are defective and need to be replaced. Because of this new customs duty
> situation, supplier A will not easly accept the defective goods back to
> replace it because they will not bear double customs duty. There was a
> fierce tussle going on over this (unreported), but Mr. Parrikar
> unfortunately is a lightweight and ultimately our forces are bleeding
> because of such nonsense.
>
> There is also apparently a fundamental principle known as "vicarious
> liability" which the BJP spokesperson Mr. Sambit Patra explained when I
> appeared with him on Arnab's show on 15th Sept. Simply put this means if
> there is any corrupt decision by the BJP cabinet then Mr. Modi is
> responsible for it.
>
> Now to the facts of the RAFAEL deal.
>
> As the Hindu says, the French Airforce purchased their planes at 55 million
> Euros each. In comparison ours are to cost Euro 225 million each. ie. about
> 4.1x times more. Do the maths yourself. So either I am wrong or 'The Hindu'
> is wrong with their figures.
>
> So kindly explain, Mr. Venkatraman how I am wrong when I say that India is
> buying the Rafaels at 4 times the cost to their own French airforce.
>
> If you want I can decode for you Air Marshal Matheswaran's observations
> about customisations and tweaks. BUT, I am sure that the 6,000 IESM's on
> this channel can do it better for you.
>
> So, let us put the nation first and politics last, and focus on our mission
> to fight corruption by exposing such scandals irrespective of which party
> has committed them,.Thre is no abusive word being used.,We are very careful
> when we write.
>
> Sarbajit
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It is disgusting to receive such write ups where abusive and
>> vituperative
>> language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been freely
>> used.,
>> without responsible journalism. .
>>
>> Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided
>> suddenly. It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with
>> it
>> in this country today.
>>
>> With person like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing
>> faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim
>> that
>> they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language
>> but
>> substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they
>> would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.
>>
>> N.S.Venkataraman
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the
>>> 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared
>>> <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053084/>' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit
>>> impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to
>>> lose
>>> and get foreign aid. [trailer
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7L7WLFBYR4>], and I am not referring
>>> to Pakistan :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>


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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

Dear Mr. Venkatraman

I shall address all the points in your email. If I have left out any, inadvertently, please flag them

Firstly, let me say that I am not a stranger to weapons technologies. For eg. in my early days as an engineer I worked on aspects of firing control systems for a navy ship, and later hydraulics of the Arjun Main Battle Tank then worked on reverse engineering Russian spare parts for MiGs.

2) Since you are from Chennai, I cite the Hindu dt. Sep. 25, 2016
"Rafale deal welcome but fleet small: Experts"

Their "experts" agree that the deal "seems to have been guided more by "political prudence than operational requirements."

Decoded this represents the 'bania' bean counting approach from PMO / MoD babus which has strangled the operational capabilities of our armed forces.

Since IAC stands, unequivocally, for India's territorial integrity and for a LARGER INDIA ('Akhand Bharat') I was shocked at the PM's public statements that henceforth war with Pakistan would be fought economically through better schools and health and not through a fitting military response at the appropriate time / place of our army's choosing. IAC is not at all like Kejriwal or Prashant Bhushan asking for referendums in J&K after forces are withdrawn and I am shocked you are clubbing us with them.

If anyone is apeing Kejriwal it is Mr. Modi and not IAC. Mr. Modi is a politician appealing to vote banks. IAC has no such considerations when we write. It is the limited SUCCESS of AAP in Delhi on schools and health and water delivery which is causing Mr. Modi's party so much angst in crucial border states like Punjab at poll time.

In any case, if there is any controversy on who propped up Kejriwal, let me say unequivocally, that it was Mr. Ajit Doval and friends since at least 2010 and they continue to control him.

Doval's rogue network  (although in retrospect 'network of rogues' is a better descriptor) comprises also a vast network of so-called Hindu militant / pseudo-nationalist fringe persons and failed police officers ultimately owing loyalty to the United States of America. Their gameplan is to convert India into a partner in the USA's war on terror, in other words, India is to replace Pakistan in the USA's scheme of things.

IAC also stands unequivocally for INDIA FIRST. IAC shall always oppose India's being a puppet state of any imperialist power.

It is crystal clear that the Government of India will engage in a war, limited or unlimited, with Pakistan in the near future - and certainly within Mr. Modi's present term. IAC has therefore publicly questioned the KNEE JERK reaction of MoD in desperately contacting foreign arms suppliers asking for vast off-the-shelf purchases in great haste recently. As per my sources, which are as good as Mr. Doval's, Rosoboronexport is inundated with inquiries in last week. Same goes for all the former Soviet states which have manufacturing capacity.

So let IAC ask 1 question, and I dare you Mr. Venkatraman to answer it.

Who was the corrupt US sponsored CIA puppet in Modi sarkar cabinet who effectively imposed CUSTOMS DUTY on ARMAMENT IMPORTS by Govt. wef 2015-16 by withdrawing vital customs duty exemptions ?

Previously, MoD / Forces did not have to pay Customs duty on their imports. After these CBEC changes, contracted armaments started arriving at docks and were standing in the open for months because no corresponding budgetary provision had been made for payment of the customs duty. The situation became so grave that shipments were being turned back on the high seas. All this happened between Feb 2016 and May 2016. Do you wish to dispute this Mr. Venkatraman ? Should I name the Minister ? Because I stand by this statement, and what is known to me (a common citizen) is obviously known also to Pakis who were quick to exploit the situation and our lack of operational readiness, I am alleging corruption.

Several loopholes still exist, for eg. Supplier A ships arms, 10% of which are defective and need to be replaced. Because of this new customs duty situation, supplier A will not easly accept the defective goods back to replace it because they will not bear double customs duty. There was a fierce tussle going on over this (unreported), but Mr. Parrikar unfortunately is a lightweight and ultimately our forces are bleeding because of such nonsense.

There is also apparently a fundamental principle known as "vicarious liability" which the BJP spokesperson Mr. Sambit Patra explained when I appeared with him on Arnab's show on 15th Sept.  Simply put this means if there is any corrupt decision by the BJP cabinet then Mr. Modi is responsible for it.

Now to the facts of the RAFAEL deal.

As the Hindu says, the French Airforce purchased their planes at 55 million Euros each. In comparison ours are to cost Euro 225 million each. ie. about 4.1x times more. Do the maths yourself. So either I am wrong or 'The Hindu' is wrong with their figures.

So kindly explain, Mr. Venkatraman how I am wrong when I say that India is buying the Rafaels at 4 times the cost to their own French airforce.

If you want I can decode for you Air Marshal Matheswaran's observations about customisations and tweaks. BUT, I am sure that the 6,000 IESM's on this channel can do it better for you.

So, let us put the nation first and politics last, and focus on our mission to fight corruption by exposing such scandals irrespective of which party has committed them,.Thre is no abusive word being used.,We are very careful when we write.

Sarbajit


On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
It is disgusting to receive such write ups  where abusive and vituperative language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been freely used., without responsible journalism. .

Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided suddenly.   It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with it in this country today.

With person  like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim that they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language but substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.

N.S.Venkataraman



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)



[IAC#RG] AND NOW EVEN RAJDEEP SARDESAI EXPOSES AAP

AAP AT THE CROSSROADS

By Rajdeep Sardesai

With AAP falling off its high moral perch, a certain middle class disillusionment has set in: Kejriwal is no longer the icon of the class that embraced him during the Anna movement.

Writing obituaries of political parties can be a hazardous business. In July 2014, an international publication invited me to write an article on the political demise of AAP. This was a few weeks after Narendra Modi had stormed to victory in the general elections and AAP looked like a start-up, which had run out of steam. I was writing a book at the time, so declined the offer. Just as well because a little over six months later, AAP scored a stunning win in the Delhi elections. The doomsday pundits had been proven wrong.

Now, in the monsoon of 2016, the epitaph of AAP is being written. The last few months have given the impression that the AAP experiment is unraveling and the party is struggling to take the great leap forward. A minister has been caught in a sex CD, making him the third minister in the Delhi government who has been forced to resign. Twenty one AAP MLAs are facing possible disqualification under the office of profit rules. The party's Punjab convener has been sacked after being accused of asking for money in a sting that smacks of inner party feuds. The Delhi high court has ruled that Lieutenant-Governor Najeeb Jung is the supreme authority in the city-state, reducing the state administration to a marginal role. And cricketer-politician Navjot Singh Sidhu has backed out from supporting AAP in Punjab, choosing instead to form a fourth front.

Even Arvind Kejriwal, the party's pre-eminent face, now finds his style of functioning under scrutiny. When Sidhu chose to go public with his decision, he lashed out at Kejriwal, accusing him of being an 'insecure' dictator. Sidhu's rants maybe those of a political maverick who has been denied a larger slice of the power cake, but they echo the accusations made by the likes of party co-founders Prashant Bhushan and Yogendra Yadav when they were shown the door. The charge of a high command culture and a coterie around Kejriwal appear similar to those which the party has made against its rivals. To that extent, while claiming to be a party with a difference, AAP has been unable to rise above the prevailing political culture that is marked by faction fighting and the "supremo" cult.

The supporters of AAP claim that their leadership has been targeted by a hostile ruling establishment and even a section of the media, which is aligned to the political-corporate duopoly. Some of the claims are justified: The government in Delhi has found itself in the crosshairs of the Centre too often for it to be dismissed as a coincidence. And yet, AAP must also realise that the politics of accusation, which it unleashed against the ruling class in 2011 as part of the Anna Hazare anti-corruption movement, has now created a political atmosphere where there is a growing public revulsion against netas. If you point one finger at others, they will do the same to you. The media, which initially propelled AAP's rise, is also a double-edged sword: The disproportionate publicity the party received initially is now matched by exaggerated criticism.
Clearly, the party's idealism that often appeared to treat politics like a moral science lesson is now behind it: Many of its members suffer from the same weaknesses as the other parties. The party may well claim that it has acted against the errant MLAs and ministers, but a post-facto action begs the question of the manner in which tickets were distributed. With AAP falling off its high moral perch, a certain middle class disillusionment has set in: Kejriwal is no longer the icon of the class that embraced him during the Anna movement.

The romantic allure of a 'people's party' is over and the spirit of voluntarism has been replaced by realpolitik where winning elections matters more than creating an organisational and ideological cohesiveness, one reason perhaps why AAP has been unable to attract a wider pool of talent.

And yet, there is a class which goes beyond India A+ and India A (for argument's sake, India A+ is those earning more than a lakh a month while India A are those earning more than ₹40,000 per month) for whom Kejriwal and AAP still symbolise hope for a more equitable share in resources. It is in India B, C and beyond (many of whom live on the margins) where the idea of AAP still resonates powerfully. This vast socio-economic group has received no tangible benefits despite the Modi government's promise of 'acche din': Their frustrations make them an attractive catchment area for AAP, especially in states with large urban populations.

The fact that Kejriwal has been courageous enough to raise issues that no other political leader dares to touch has somewhat preserved his original image as an anti-establishment crusader. As long as Kejriwal remains the 'outsider', he still has a chance of expanding his base. But AAP 2.0 cannot win elections only by being in a state of permanent conflict with the 'big, bad' Goliaths: The party will have to offer wholesome governance alternative that goes beyond anti-corruption slogans.

How about starting with tackling dengue and chikungunya in Delhi on a war footing rather than get into a no-win battle with the L-G?

Post-script: Kejriwal has taken to Twitter to attack journalists who have been critical of his government as middle-men and Modi spokespersons. He maybe angry with media biases but when anger turns into paranoia, then it is a potential route to self-destruction.

(The veteran journalist Rajdeep Sardesai has been a known AAP fan and was even recently rumored to be AAP's Chief Ministerial candidate for Goa)


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Re: [IAC#RG] Narendra Modi is the corrupt mouse that roars !!

It is disgusting to receive such write ups  where abusive and vituperative language such as corrupt mouse, rogue network etc. have been freely used., without responsible journalism. .

Rafael deal has been under negotiation for several years and not decided suddenly.   It appears that anyone can write anything and get away with it in this country today.

With person  like Kejriwal being in the scene, people are already losing faith in the so called anti corruption crusaders. Let those who claim that they are fighting against corruption stop using simply abusive language but substantiate their allegations in responsible manner. . Otherwise, they would be doing great disservice to anti corruption movement.

N.S.Venkataraman



On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
After viewing Modi's speech to his party cadres, I was reminded of the 1960's satirical movie 'The Mouse that Roared' (Peter Sellers) about a 2 bit impoverished nation which declares war on the United States hoping to lose and get foreign aid. [trailer], and I am not referring to Pakistan :-)

Frankly, Modi at Kozikhode looked like an 80-Year-old Amitabh Bachhan trying to reprise his Zanjeer days. Those same tired recycled Salim Javed dialogues interspersed with twits from Hindustan ki Kasam and Haqeeqat have fooled nobody outside the BJP, and least of all IAC, no matter how Modi's paid news channels hail his 'strategic restraint'.

Simply put, strategic restraint means that previous BJP disasters like Operation Parakram cannot be repeated, and Modi has wisely avoided that trap due to his compulsions, However, the world knows, even if irresponsible BJP cadres don't, that India's capacity to fight has been severely eroded under successive Congi and NDA govts. Our ordnances, armouries and reserves are severely depleted and troops and police exhausted by side duties and poor inputs.

As I write, frantic calls are being made from MoD offices to all the arms dealers everywhere essentially saying 'Tell us what you have available for delivery right now'. This is a golden opportunity for the world to dump all their expired stocks on us at any price they demand. The nation is being looted through this war hysteria fabricated by Doval and his rogue network - which unfortunately contains many misguided retired forces chiefs and other Großer Generalstab (traitors) in it.

For instance, why the great hurry for signing this 36 plane Rafael deal, a roundly criticised classic case of too little too late for the IAF, at this time ? Why is India buying these planes at 4 times the cost they are sold to the French Airforce ? Normally in the arms business it is common to export at below price to outsiders to keep domestic production going. This clearly shows that there are still kickbacks of at least 500% in this deal.

Mark our words Mr. Modi : This BJP Govt is shaping up to be even more corrupt than the Congress was, and all the fake jingoism and manufactured Bharat Mata ki Jai crap to your BJP cadres, and hiding behind national secrecy, is not going to stop our saying so.

PS: Everyday Doval remains is reaffirmation that Modi & Co. are corrupt.

Sarbajit

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