Re:[IAC#RG]

Dear Prof Yadav / Mr. J.K. Gaur

Concerning "Dr." APJ Kalam.

For eg. he was actively involved in the expensive "H bomb" fraud
played on our nation

http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/k-santhanam-ashok-parthasarathi-pokhran-ii-an-h-bomb-disaster-109121100016_1.html

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/apj-abdul-kalam-the-man-behind-pokhran-2-and-indias-nuclear-weaponisation-1026640.html

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/pokhranii-thermonuclear-test-a-failure/article21311.ece

And after that we can revisit the 1994 ISRO spy scandal which scuttled
India's Liquid fuel rocket motors (APJK's team was instead promoting
the solid fuel version as APJK believed he was the reincarnation of
Tipu Sultan).

Sarbajit

On 10/15/15, Pramod Yadava <pkyadava1953@gmail.com> wrote:
> My Dear and Esteemed Fellow Indian Citizens:
>
> I think we must stop playing games of convenience while attributing
> responsibility to groups and individuals. In no situation should we
> encroach upon individual's sovereignty within a larger sovereign state. As
> to the contribution of Dr Kalam to building up Indian Defense system there
> cannot be much argument and those indulging in it are again playing some
> game by their convenience. Ultra-structure visualization does not
> necessarily bring out the most pleasing view of an object though it
> definitely produces a lot of important information. Many of the things on
> news circuits today and the way spokespersons are found accusing others and
> defending themselves, makes one wonder whether we are living in a civilized
> world. Descendants of all the civilizations can be proud of something or
> else in their past but should they overlook contribution of others? We in
> India may find a lot more than many to mention about our glorious past
> simply because our ancestors inhabited such a fertile and naturally blessed
> land. That does not entitle us to look down upon others and be undluly
> proud of ourselves. We cannot do that without undoing our own guiding
> principles like "vasudhaiv kutumbakam".
>
> May good sense prevail
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 14/1015
>>
>> I would say alternatives would be Azam or owaisi on one side and Sania
>> Mirza on other.Why Not? Even Dawood is not hated by majority. It has to
>> be
>> a politician at the one extreme and Dawood till 1993 had nothing against
>> him except a small time don dispensing on the spot justice for a
>> consideration.
>> I don,t agree with one bit of what you have accused Dr. Kalam of. When
>> where does the US influence come? During the 3 months he spent in U.S
>> when
>> sent by the Govt. in one of their institution. In fact he came to realise
>> that nly strength gets respect in Int. relations and tried all the time
>> India be strong , technologically advanced and self sufficient in defense
>> needs.
>> After reading his books- Wings of Fire and India 2020 outlining his
>> vision
>> for the country, I am convinced that there is nothing you can accuse him
>> of?
>> Where does AAp come in the picture?
>> Who conferred Padma Bhusan and Padma Vibhusan on him-congress party under
>> Indira/Rajive Gandhi. So how does he become anti congress?
>> If BJP made him the President, not as a politician or party man as
>> Congress had been doing all-along how does it diminish is stature?
>> It is all by way of digression, as the real issue is communal
>> disharmony,unprovoked violence
>> on religious issues and how to deal with it and prevent recurrence of
>> such
>> events as happened in Dadri.The real culprits are the politicians who fan
>> the communal feeling for vote bank politics through the fanatic fringe.
>> State Govt. of UP and Bihar where such incidents occur from time to time
>> since independence should take the responsibility as law and order and
>> prevention of crimes is a state subject.
>> REgds
>> JKGaur

Re:[IAC#RG]

At the risk of angering a lot of people, and on something of a tangent, I invite you to observe Owaisi for a while before falling for the extremely well promoted slander about him. I am not a supporter, or know him in any manner or follow his speeches or anything, so I may have missed any extreme hatred for India that he conveys. I have been noticing him over the last year, and he makes a lot of sense that is usually attacked with personal attacks labeling him communal or the equivalent of Hindutva fanatics, etc. I have not observed this. Pointing out the obvious - that a selectively poor treatment of Muslims will make them discontent is not a threat - it is a much needed warning in today's times. He has taken several stands that are extremely necessary today and comes across as an extremely practical man. His recent suggestion to scrap Haj subsidy and divert the money for education of Muslim girls is an example.

This is not to say that he is a paragon of virtue (I believe he was among those who had a problem with Taslima Nasreen's extreme anti-Muslim rhetoric, for example - I don't necessarily agree with it, but her right to say it cannot be intimidated), merely pointing out that he says a lot of things that are in national interest that are deliberately sabotaged by the opinion makers of larger parties, because they are not to the advantage of the larger parties. Particularly in today's times, when the zealots have free rein and the more sensible are watching their words and playing safe, he is a politician to watch out for, because he does not get intimidated into silence.

Vidyut

Note: This is not in any way a promotion of Owaisi, it is a heads up on public perception being shaped against public interest. I do not ever promote personality cults of any sort - for anyone.

Re:[IAC#RG]

My Dear and Esteemed Fellow Indian Citizens:

I think we must stop playing games of convenience while attributing responsibility to groups and individuals. In no situation should we encroach upon individual's sovereignty within a larger sovereign state. As to the contribution of Dr Kalam to building up Indian Defense system there cannot be much argument and those indulging in it are again playing some game by their convenience. Ultra-structure visualization does not necessarily bring out the most pleasing view of an object though it definitely produces a lot of important information. Many of the things on news circuits today and the way spokespersons are found accusing others and defending themselves, makes one wonder whether we are living in a civilized world. Descendants of all the civilizations can be proud of something or else in their past but should they overlook contribution of others? We in India may find a lot more than many to mention about our glorious past simply because our ancestors inhabited such a fertile and naturally blessed land. That does not entitle us to look down upon others and be undluly proud of ourselves. We cannot do that without undoing our own guiding principles like "vasudhaiv kutumbakam".

May good sense prevail

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

14/1015

I would say alternatives would be Azam or owaisi on one side and Sania Mirza on other.Why Not? Even Dawood is not hated by majority. It has to be a politician at the one extreme and Dawood till 1993 had nothing against him except a small time don dispensing on the spot justice for a consideration.

I don,t agree with one bit of what you have accused Dr. Kalam of. When where does the US influence come? During the 3 months he spent in U.S when sent by the Govt. in one of their institution. In fact he came to realise that nly strength gets respect in Int. relations and tried all the time India be strong , technologically advanced and self sufficient in defense needs.

After reading his books- Wings of Fire and India 2020 outlining his vision for the country, I am convinced that there is nothing you can accuse him of?

Where does AAp come in the picture?

Who conferred Padma Bhusan and Padma Vibhusan on him-congress party under Indira/Rajive Gandhi. So how does he become anti congress?

 If BJP made him the President, not as a politician or party man as Congress had been doing all-along how does it diminish is stature?

It is all by way of digression, as the real issue is communal disharmony,unprovoked violence
on religious issues and how to deal with it and prevent recurrence of such events as happened in Dadri.The real culprits are the politicians who fan the communal feeling for vote bank politics through the fanatic fringe. State Govt. of UP and Bihar where such incidents occur from time to time since independence should take the responsibility as law and order and prevention of crimes is a state subject.

REgds

JKGaur

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:24:07 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]

I find the usage of APJ Kalam and Dawood Ibrahim by Ms. Mustafa to be
spot on when it comes to stereo-typing Muslims by majoritarian
fanatics, and very tongue-in-cheek because its an open secret that US
sponsored rogues like BJP and AAP love APJK because he systematically
destroyed India's munitions and ordnance industry with his
incompetence (and promotion of incompetents), and it is a toss-up
between who has damaged India more - APJK or Dawood.
 
PS: What were the alternatives - Irfan Pathan versus Sania Mirza ?
 
Sarbajit
 
On 10/12/15, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 12/10/15
> Where is the civil society today? It is totally fragmented. It is
> ideologically divided on religious and political affiliations.Members of
> political parties have to toe the party line-whether it is Congress or BJP
> or other regional parties including communists who are neither a national
> party nor a regional party. Similarly people are polarised on religious
> beliefs.Yet the fight against crime and injustice has to go on.
> Unfortunately even the legal system is not helpful in securing speedy and
> swift justice.I feel the use of ex-president Kalam alongwith D. Ibrahim is
> most inappropriate. Calling him a technocrat or anti-congress or without
> family strings is belittling his contribution to this country and humanity
> at large.RegdsJKGaur
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 22:04:14 +0530
> From: kiranshaheen@gmail.com
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]
>
> Agree with KN. Given the Dadri killing today we held a protest march at
> Jantar Mantar, good presence yet even the progressive middle class except
> the activist section was absent. Another problem is that the creative
> sections of the civil society is hardly seen on the ground and very much
> satisfied with glass house discussions.
>  Kiran ShaheenFIND WHAT YOU LOVE AND LET IT KILL YOU - Bukovski
>
>
>
> On 2 October 2015 at 10:19, Kn Panikkar <knpanikkar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Seema,I read your excellent piece. The question is what the secular
> forces  are going to do about it? Is n't it time that some major initiative
> is taken by the civil society? The situation seems to be gettinmg out of
> control.KNPanikkar
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> POLITICSBORDEROPINIONSOUTH ASIAWORLDGENDERYOUNG CITIZENLIFETHU, OCT 1,
> 2015THE RSS/BJP MESSAGE TO MUSLIMS IN INDIA TODAYSEEMA MUSTAFA Wednesday,
> September 30, 2015NEW DELHI: It was a systematic communal campaign in Dadri,
> that precedes acts of violence always. First a calf was reported missing,
> and a campaign unleashed that basically spread rumours linking the calf to
> eating beef. When the tension reached prescribed levels, a temple in Dadri
> announced that a particular family--- Muslims of course--- was eating, after
> keeping, beef in their home. And barely before the echo of the announcement
> had subsided, a mob attacked the house of Mohammad Akhlaq, in the village in
> Dadri, pulled him out and beat him to death with bricks. His 22 year old son
> was also attacked, and is presently battling for his life in a hospital. The
> mob attacked their grandmother, and tried to molest the women in the house.
> The family is completely traumatised, terrified and currently praying for
> the young son's life.
>
> In terms of numbers, always very important for a statistic obsessed
> government, only one man has died so far. But in terms of impact, the
> incident has rung alarm bells across the country being reported in the
> global media at some length. And as the Muzaffarnagar violence at the time
> of the last Lok Sabha elections had shown, corroborated by subsequent
> communal incidents, the new strategy of those seeking to divide India on
> communal lines is to minimise deaths, but to exaggerate impact. Be it in the
> form of large scale displacement of the minorities, or widespread fear.
>
> In the Dadri attack the intention was not displacement, but to generate
> fear, to terrify. Hence the singling out of the one family, and the brutal
> attack where Akhlaq was killed without mercy. Do not eat beef is the
> ostensible message. The real message is: you are second class citizens, so
> you will do what you are told in India.
>
> So what are Muslims being told in India? But before that the stereotype
> which is fed by an ignorant, complicit media; goes largely unchallenged by
> the so called regional parties as they neither have the cadres nor the
> organisation to do little more than listen; and that is slowly being
> injected as a poisonous venom into society at every available opportunity,
> borrowing also from the US led campaign against Muslims across the world.
>
> 1. Muslims in India are a monolith and hence dangerous;
>
> 2. At best they are of two types: the APJ Abdul Kalam variety or the Dawood
> Ibrahim kind. And the second are in the majority, hence have to be hunted
> out before they hurt others;
>
> 3. They are influenced greatly by the extremist politics of the terror
> groups in Pakistan and West Asia;
>
> 4. They are growing rapidly and pose a challenge to the stability of India;
>
>
> 5. They work against the cultural ethos of India, as they eat beef, take
> away our daughters, are aggressive in following their religion, and hence a
> threat to Hinduism;
>
> In this discourse there is no room for the reality. That Muslims are not a
> monolith, and are as culturally different as all other Indians; that they
> are largely liberal, even if they are religious as are non-Muslims in India;
> that they have shunned extremist politics to a point where they vote always
> for the secular option and not for the kinds of Owaisi, or the Jamaat e
> Islami in elections; that they have done nothing, repeat nothing, to be
> branded anti-national; that they too do not eat beef, and are secular and
> Indian as the last Indian.
>
> And hence through the systematic, crafted, manipulated communal incidents
> come the many messages. Muslims are being told very deliberately, and
> through violence:
>
> 1. Do not marry outside your religion. The entire 'love jihad' campaign
> launched in Uttar Pradesh in particular by the RSS affiliates was directed
> at invoking terror through deliberate attacks on Hindu-Muslim couples, and
> on the families of the Muslim young people so involved, making it clear that
> this will not be tolerated;
>
> 2. Do not eat meat or beef. The central government itself passed an order
> against the export of beef. The Maharashtra government has gone many steps
> further. This should have been a message to all Indians, but through the
> campaign and now Akhlaq's murder it has been demonstrated that the
> defaulters are Muslims. Hence Muslims must follow the food code or suffer
> the consequences, as posts on the social media by self-acknowledged Hindutva
> acolytes profess in language that is abusive and vitriolic.
>
> 3. Do not live in cosmopolitan colonies, move into ghettos. Mumbai,
> Ahmedabad, Delhi have managed to make this a rule with most of Gujarat
> covered, and other cities and states following. Muslims do not easily get
> rented accommodation in these cities, and are also not allowed to buy
> property easily by the residents associations.
>
> 4. Do not become too successful economically. The communal violence has been
> increasingly targeting Muslim businessmen, with shops being specifically
> targeted.In fact the Congress government in Maharashtra also fed into this
> by unleashing a wave of terror against Muslim professionals, many of whom
> were arrested on suspicion of having "terror links.' While some were
> released after months and years, there are many languishing in jail for
> crimes that local lawyers have described as concocted.
>
> 5. And speak only when you are asked to, actually not at all. This is the
> message coming out of a major attack on Muslim writers, academics,
> intelligentsia on the social media where trolls describing themselves as
> bhakts of PM Narendra Modi, Hindutva acolytes and carrying profile pictures
> of angry gods literally abuse and threaten any one writing under a Muslim
> name, questioning their patriotism, their religion and their identity. In
> fact Muslims are repeatedly reminded when they share in democratic debate,
> that they should remember how other countries ---Pakistan for
> instance---treats its minorities, and should thus follow a path of caution.
>
>
> The campaign is virulent and relentless. And political parties in states
> going to the polls in particular are now feeling this pressure and reacting
> to it in some cases. In UP, Mulayam Singh and the Samajwadi party became
> bystanders during, before and after the Muzaffarnagar violence, doing little
> to counter the campaign of divisiveness unleashed by the BJP and the
> affiliates at the time. In Bihar, Janata Dal(U) leaders have taken
> cognisance of what MP Pavan Varma described to this writer, as a virulent
> communal campaign by the RSS and the BJP to consolidate the majority vote,
> and are trying to combat it. As Varma said, "RSS cadres have fanned into the
> districts and are working systematically to create a divide." He was
> optimistic, however, they would not succeed in Bihar as they had in UP,
> maintaining that Chief Minister Nitish Kumar is alive to this and keeping a
> close watch.
> --
> Seema Mustafathecitizen.in
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Re: [IAC#RG] Unform Civil Code

Hello Friends,

Namaste.

For real & stronger Democracy, need to replace soon bogus Representation of People Act with new perfect law to ensure good governance & public welfare.

Regards,

Navin

Quality of Democracy, Freedom, Laws & Governance depends on the quality of Electoral Laws, Parliament & State Assemblies. Good Governance is a Human Right.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Ravi,

We already have a uniform (secular) civil code for those who want it.
Actually it has always been the Hindus who opposed the secular Civil
Code (which long precedes the Hindu Code of 1955).

1) Hindu Marriage Act 1955 <==> Special Marriages Act (1872/ 1954)
2) Hindu Succession Act 1956 <==> Indian Succession Act 1925
3) Hindu Guardianship Act1956  <==> Guardians and Wards Act 1890

For eg., the Hindu Marriage Act 1955 is almost a xerox copy of the old
(pre-1954) Special Marriages Act.

It is clear from this simple analysis that the self styled 'thekedars'
of Hinduism who are HQed in Nagpur continue to speak in the forked
tongues of their reptilian American pay-masters and now intend to
impose their retrograde US drafted communal UCC on the secular
citizens of India, probably via the Supreme Court (which is now packed
with their camp followers) predetermined PIL route.

Sarbajit

On 10/13/15, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... I need to conclude by asking: why is
> it that we still do not have a
> uniform civil code through out the nation, including J&K? Religion, being a
> personal choice,
> shouldn't it be left purely in the personal domain?
>
> ravi
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>

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RE:[IAC#RG]

14/1015

I would say alternatives would be Azam or owaisi on one side and Sania Mirza on other.Why Not? Even Dawood is not hated by majority. It has to be a politician at the one extreme and Dawood till 1993 had nothing against him except a small time don dispensing on the spot justice for a consideration.

I don,t agree with one bit of what you have accused Dr. Kalam of. When where does the US influence come? During the 3 months he spent in U.S when sent by the Govt. in one of their institution. In fact he came to realise that nly strength gets respect in Int. relations and tried all the time India be strong , technologically advanced and self sufficient in defense needs.

After reading his books- Wings of Fire and India 2020 outlining his vision for the country, I am convinced that there is nothing you can accuse him of?

Where does AAp come in the picture?

Who conferred Padma Bhusan and Padma Vibhusan on him-congress party under Indira/Rajive Gandhi. So how does he become anti congress?

 If BJP made him the President, not as a politician or party man as Congress had been doing all-along how does it diminish is stature?

It is all by way of digression, as the real issue is communal disharmony,unprovoked violence
on religious issues and how to deal with it and prevent recurrence of such events as happened in Dadri.The real culprits are the politicians who fan the communal feeling for vote bank politics through the fanatic fringe. State Govt. of UP and Bihar where such incidents occur from time to time since independence should take the responsibility as law and order and prevention of crimes is a state subject.

REgds

JKGaur

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:24:07 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]

I find the usage of APJ Kalam and Dawood Ibrahim by Ms. Mustafa to be
spot on when it comes to stereo-typing Muslims by majoritarian
fanatics, and very tongue-in-cheek because its an open secret that US
sponsored rogues like BJP and AAP love APJK because he systematically
destroyed India's munitions and ordnance industry with his
incompetence (and promotion of incompetents), and it is a toss-up
between who has damaged India more - APJK or Dawood.
 
PS: What were the alternatives - Irfan Pathan versus Sania Mirza ?
 
Sarbajit
 
On 10/12/15, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 12/10/15
> Where is the civil society today? It is totally fragmented. It is
> ideologically divided on religious and political affiliations.Members of
> political parties have to toe the party line-whether it is Congress or BJP
> or other regional parties including communists who are neither a national
> party nor a regional party. Similarly people are polarised on religious
> beliefs.Yet the fight against crime and injustice has to go on.
> Unfortunately even the legal system is not helpful in securing speedy and
> swift justice.I feel the use of ex-president Kalam alongwith D. Ibrahim is
> most inappropriate. Calling him a technocrat or anti-congress or without
> family strings is belittling his contribution to this country and humanity
> at large.RegdsJKGaur
>
> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 22:04:14 +0530
> From: kiranshaheen@gmail.com
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]
>
> Agree with KN. Given the Dadri killing today we held a protest march at
> Jantar Mantar, good presence yet even the progressive middle class except
> the activist section was absent. Another problem is that the creative
> sections of the civil society is hardly seen on the ground and very much
> satisfied with glass house discussions.
>  Kiran ShaheenFIND WHAT YOU LOVE AND LET IT KILL YOU - Bukovski
>
>
>
> On 2 October 2015 at 10:19, Kn Panikkar <knpanikkar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Seema,I read your excellent piece. The question is what the secular
> forces  are going to do about it? Is n't it time that some major initiative
> is taken by the civil society? The situation seems to be gettinmg out of
> control.KNPanikkar
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> POLITICSBORDEROPINIONSOUTH ASIAWORLDGENDERYOUNG CITIZENLIFETHU, OCT 1,
> 2015THE RSS/BJP MESSAGE TO MUSLIMS IN INDIA TODAYSEEMA MUSTAFA Wednesday,
> September 30, 2015NEW DELHI: It was a systematic communal campaign in Dadri,
> that precedes acts of violence always. First a calf was reported missing,
> and a campaign unleashed that basically spread rumours linking the calf to
> eating beef. When the tension reached prescribed levels, a temple in Dadri
> announced that a particular family--- Muslims of course--- was eating, after
> keeping, beef in their home. And barely before the echo of the announcement
> had subsided, a mob attacked the house of Mohammad Akhlaq, in the village in
> Dadri, pulled him out and beat him to death with bricks. His 22 year old son
> was also attacked, and is presently battling for his life in a hospital. The
> mob attacked their grandmother, and tried to molest the women in the house.
> The family is completely traumatised, terrified and currently praying for
> the young son's life.
>
> In terms of numbers, always very important for a statistic obsessed
> government, only one man has died so far. But in terms of impact, the
> incident has rung alarm bells across the country being reported in the
> global media at some length. And as the Muzaffarnagar violence at the time
> of the last Lok Sabha elections had shown, corroborated by subsequent
> communal incidents, the new strategy of those seeking to divide India on
> communal lines is to minimise deaths, but to exaggerate impact. Be it in the
> form of large scale displacement of the minorities, or widespread fear.
>
> In the Dadri attack the intention was not displacement, but to generate
> fear, to terrify. Hence the singling out of the one family, and the brutal
> attack where Akhlaq was killed without mercy. Do not eat beef is the
> ostensible message. The real message is: you are second class citizens, so
> you will do what you are told in India.
>
> So what are Muslims being told in India? But before that the stereotype
> which is fed by an ignorant, complicit media; goes largely unchallenged by
> the so called regional parties as they neither have the cadres nor the
> organisation to do little more than listen; and that is slowly being
> injected as a poisonous venom into society at every available opportunity,
> borrowing also from the US led campaign against Muslims across the world.
>
> 1. Muslims in India are a monolith and hence dangerous;
>
> 2. At best they are of two types: the APJ Abdul Kalam variety or the Dawood
> Ibrahim kind. And the second are in the majority, hence have to be hunted
> out before they hurt others;
>
> 3. They are influenced greatly by the extremist politics of the terror
> groups in Pakistan and West Asia;
>
> 4. They are growing rapidly and pose a challenge to the stability of India;
>
>
> 5. They work against the cultural ethos of India, as they eat beef, take
> away our daughters, are aggressive in following their religion, and hence a
> threat to Hinduism;
>
> In this discourse there is no room for the reality. That Muslims are not a
> monolith, and are as culturally different as all other Indians; that they
> are largely liberal, even if they are religious as are non-Muslims in India;
> that they have shunned extremist politics to a point where they vote always
> for the secular option and not for the kinds of Owaisi, or the Jamaat e
> Islami in elections; that they have done nothing, repeat nothing, to be
> branded anti-national; that they too do not eat beef, and are secular and
> Indian as the last Indian.
>
> And hence through the systematic, crafted, manipulated communal incidents
> come the many messages. Muslims are being told very deliberately, and
> through violence:
>
> 1. Do not marry outside your religion. The entire 'love jihad' campaign
> launched in Uttar Pradesh in particular by the RSS affiliates was directed
> at invoking terror through deliberate attacks on Hindu-Muslim couples, and
> on the families of the Muslim young people so involved, making it clear that
> this will not be tolerated;
>
> 2. Do not eat meat or beef. The central government itself passed an order
> against the export of beef. The Maharashtra government has gone many steps
> further. This should have been a message to all Indians, but through the
> campaign and now Akhlaq's murder it has been demonstrated that the
> defaulters are Muslims. Hence Muslims must follow the food code or suffer
> the consequences, as posts on the social media by self-acknowledged Hindutva
> acolytes profess in language that is abusive and vitriolic.
>
> 3. Do not live in cosmopolitan colonies, move into ghettos. Mumbai,
> Ahmedabad, Delhi have managed to make this a rule with most of Gujarat
> covered, and other cities and states following. Muslims do not easily get
> rented accommodation in these cities, and are also not allowed to buy
> property easily by the residents associations.
>
> 4. Do not become too successful economically. The communal violence has been
> increasingly targeting Muslim businessmen, with shops being specifically
> targeted.In fact the Congress government in Maharashtra also fed into this
> by unleashing a wave of terror against Muslim professionals, many of whom
> were arrested on suspicion of having "terror links.' While some were
> released after months and years, there are many languishing in jail for
> crimes that local lawyers have described as concocted.
>
> 5. And speak only when you are asked to, actually not at all. This is the
> message coming out of a major attack on Muslim writers, academics,
> intelligentsia on the social media where trolls describing themselves as
> bhakts of PM Narendra Modi, Hindutva acolytes and carrying profile pictures
> of angry gods literally abuse and threaten any one writing under a Muslim
> name, questioning their patriotism, their religion and their identity. In
> fact Muslims are repeatedly reminded when they share in democratic debate,
> that they should remember how other countries ---Pakistan for
> instance---treats its minorities, and should thus follow a path of caution.
>
>
> The campaign is virulent and relentless. And political parties in states
> going to the polls in particular are now feeling this pressure and reacting
> to it in some cases. In UP, Mulayam Singh and the Samajwadi party became
> bystanders during, before and after the Muzaffarnagar violence, doing little
> to counter the campaign of divisiveness unleashed by the BJP and the
> affiliates at the time. In Bihar, Janata Dal(U) leaders have taken
> cognisance of what MP Pavan Varma described to this writer, as a virulent
> communal campaign by the RSS and the BJP to consolidate the majority vote,
> and are trying to combat it. As Varma said, "RSS cadres have fanned into the
> districts and are working systematically to create a divide." He was
> optimistic, however, they would not succeed in Bihar as they had in UP,
> maintaining that Chief Minister Nitish Kumar is alive to this and keeping a
> close watch.
> --
> Seema Mustafathecitizen.in
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Re: [IAC#RG] Unform Civil Code

Dear Ravi,

We already have a uniform (secular) civil code for those who want it.
Actually it has always been the Hindus who opposed the secular Civil
Code (which long precedes the Hindu Code of 1955).

1) Hindu Marriage Act 1955 <==> Special Marriages Act (1872/ 1954)
2) Hindu Succession Act 1956 <==> Indian Succession Act 1925
3) Hindu Guardianship Act1956 <==> Guardians and Wards Act 1890

For eg., the Hindu Marriage Act 1955 is almost a xerox copy of the old
(pre-1954) Special Marriages Act.

It is clear from this simple analysis that the self styled 'thekedars'
of Hinduism who are HQed in Nagpur continue to speak in the forked
tongues of their reptilian American pay-masters and now intend to
impose their retrograde US drafted communal UCC on the secular
citizens of India, probably via the Supreme Court (which is now packed
with their camp followers) predetermined PIL route.

Sarbajit

On 10/13/15, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
> ... I need to conclude by asking: why is
> it that we still do not have a
> uniform civil code through out the nation, including J&K? Religion, being a
> personal choice,
> shouldn't it be left purely in the personal domain?
>
> ravi
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Seema Mustafa <seemamustafa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>

Re:[IAC#RG]

It seems present Govt itself does not want RTI.  It is killing the Act systematically through various ways and means.     

On Tuesday, 13 October 2015 10:01 PM, Aires Rodrigues <airesrodrigues1@gmail.com> wrote:

THE RTI ACT COMPLETES A DECADE BUT YET TO BE STRENGTHENED  

 

By Aires Rodrigues

 

The Right to Information Act which came into force on October 12^th 2005 is now a decade old.  The Right to Information Act was enacted to ensure transparency and accountability in governance. But the manner in which the government is subtly subverting the Right to Information Act is a matter of concern.

 

A well informed citizenry, transparency, and free flow of information are the very foundations of any successful democratic society. India may be publicly acclaimed as the world's largest democracy but the ground reality is that we are now ebbing away as Democracy and non-transparency in the functioning of the Government cannot co-exist.

 

Besides freedom of speech without access to information is meaningless. Narendra Modi rode to power on his vow of 'Acche din' for the Aam Aadmi and Good governance. But it's almost 17 months in power and the Prime Minister has not uttered a word on the RTI Act, leave alone on strengthening it. His then enthusiasm for freedom has been waning away and we now have an emerging culture of surveillance and secrecy.  

 

As part of the ploy to subvert the RTI Act many of the Information Commissions across the country have been kept dysfunctional. Even those Information Commissioners appointed are 'pliable' retired government officials who have spent their entire career hiding information from public domain and cannot now be expected to bat for transparency in their post-retirement avatar.  

 

For the common man, getting correct and accurate information under the Right to Information Act is today becoming a far cry. It is no surprise that the Gujarat government recently even denied information sought by Narendra Modi's estranged wife Jasodhaben who was only seeking details of the police security provided to her.

 

As the Right to Information Act requires that the Information Commissioners have to be persons of Eminence in public life, Independent minded persons who do not succumb to political pulls and pressures need to be appointed as Information Commissioners to ensure the proper implementation of the Right to Information Act. If Yes-men manage to creep into as Information Commissioners it would be an exercise in futility ending up as white elephants that we would rather be better off without.

 

Under Section 4 of the RTI Act all public authorities are duty bound to regularly display on their website a wide range of information, including all relevant facts while formulating important policies or announcing the decisions which affect the public. This proviso in the law was enacted to reduce the need for filing individual RTI applications. But this mandatory duty has been blatantly flouted by the authorities with most government websites themselves dysfunctional or not updated. What is the use of right to freedom of speech when the people do not have their rightful access to information?

 

The Judiciary needs to step in to ensure that the Government complies with the mandate of the Right to Information Act. But with the Courts themselves also averse to parting with information and with its functioning largely under a veil of secrecy, we are stonewalled.

 

But we need to battle it out and cannot allow the RTI Act to be choked by the government to a slow death. Steps need to be taken to strengthen the transparency regime that was sought to be established as envisaged by the RTI Act. Effective implementation of the RTI Act requires political commitment from the very top. Officals denying information or giving misleading and distorted information need to be severely penalized.

 

Governance by cloak of secrecy and opaqueness needs to be strongly resisted. It cannot be a hush-hush regime. We need to dismantle those walls of secrecy that continue to hound transparency and good governance despite the Right to Information Act now being in place for a decade. In those very words of Narendra Modi 'Sabko sanmati de bhagwan' (Let good sense prevail).

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