Sunday, July 27, 2014

Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

dear,
 rapes are not in increase. they were there since the dominance of male folks to show their manhood. it comes in to light since 24x7news channels came in to existence. secondly women organisations have become more active, and thirdly legally it is declared as a crime. 
still the claimants are not getting right of FIR in police stations, neither they are sent immediately to any doctor to have the proof. mostly these cases are tried to hush up! if you go to red light areas you will see many innocent girl children-adolescent girls are forced to do the work. husbands at homes are also many a times culprits, for forcing the act in any physical condition of a lady by perversive way. if you are not aware then let me tell you that real fathers, brothers also do not leave their own blood relations when they get urge. Any woman of whatever age is targeted. 
till now it was done silently. now it is coming in public. we have to change our mentality instead blaming and expecting someone outsider to take action. as a responsible citizen what are you doing, please ask your inner voice.
active social worker.

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On 27-Jul-2014, at 9:10 am, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:

why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 

To                                                                                                                                 

India Against Corruption

 

                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

N.S.Venkataraman

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Re: [IAC#RG] BJP as corrupt as Congress

Are we discussing tomatoes or pornography ?

Are we also now reduced to recirculating dialogs from Yes (Prime) Minister ?
eg.
".. in the fullness of time .. at the appropriate juncture .. in due course .."

What is there to sort out ? As former Chairman of NCAER and CERC you
know the reason as well as anyone else. All those traders who
contributed handsomely to Mr. Modi's elections campaigns (or those of
his party) are busy recouping their investments. Tomatoes at Rs. 100,
"18K" gold is now 12K and so on ..

Sarbajit

*" In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do
nothing about it.
In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but
there's nothing we *can* do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but
it's too late now. "

On 7/27/14, S L Rao <raosl@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have rarely read such nonsense as written often by Mr Roy. I suppose if I
> had his mind I would say he was in fact confessing, that he is someone's
> puppet, and could sort out economic problems that require actions and time
> to take effect. SLRao
>
> SLRao, 93431 98450, 08022275132.
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 27-Jul-2014, at 3:43 pm, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now with tomatos at 100 rupees per kilo, I think now even some diehard
>> BJP supporters have begun seeing through the "Modi for PM" hype as
>> just an Ambani slogan driven through the Ambani media to install an
>> Ambani puppet.
>>
>> Episodes like these show how India's media and internet is Ambani
>> controlled to market US porn once their 4G networks are fully
>> operational.
>>
>> I have been told, informally, by the regulators, that porn drives at
>> least 40% of Internet revenue here and Ambanis want India's stringent
>> porno/obscenity laws changed so that Indians "consume" more and more
>> porn over their distribution channels.
>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

NS Venkatraman :   Your write up  "   SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS" convey appropriately the ain and anguish that is tormenting many concerned Indians  BUT dear friend, Today for you one person to blame is how you wrote " Narender Modi "  BUT more henius Rapes were reported during erstwhile Govt of dr. Singh " Nirbhaya if you recall!  


Nation has Not yet heard news about   "   Rape of Murdered Women  "   ir   "   Rapes of Dead Corps  ""   !!!   If you think this cannot go so far please    think again.  So Where lies the Fault ?  Fault lies   in here - 


In >>>> Inability of Civil Society, National Institutes of Social sciences Research Inability of All NGOs to locate the Root Cause of Problem !!Unless we address the problem and apply remedies where these are needed More Horrific Reports of Rapesmay keep flowing   !! 


Ashok Sharma

New Delhi 

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one’s stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Chennai


- Ashok Sharma

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On 27 July 2014 18:40, Madhukar Thote <mythote@gmail.com> wrote:
why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 

To                                                                                                                                 

India Against Corruption

 

                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one’s stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

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Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Chennai



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why rapes are on the increase? Because there is no immediate severe punishment for the rapists.  Court Punishment takes years. Unless there is fear of the immediate strong action, the crimes in our country will be on the rise. Our laws are perhaps weak.
M.Y. Thote  


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 

To                                                                                                                                 

India Against Corruption

 

                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Chennai



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I have rarely read such nonsense as written often by Mr Roy. I suppose if I had his mind I would say he was in fact confessing, that he is someone's puppet, and could sort out economic problems that require actions and time to take effect. SLRao

SLRao, 93431 98450, 08022275132.
Sent from my iPad

> On 27-Jul-2014, at 3:43 pm, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now with tomatos at 100 rupees per kilo, I think now even some diehard
> BJP supporters have begun seeing through the "Modi for PM" hype as
> just an Ambani slogan driven through the Ambani media to install an
> Ambani puppet.
>
> Episodes like these show how India's media and internet is Ambani
> controlled to market US porn once their 4G networks are fully
> operational.
>
> I have been told, informally, by the regulators, that porn drives at
> least 40% of Internet revenue here and Ambanis want India's stringent
> porno/obscenity laws changed so that Indians "consume" more and more
> porn over their distribution channels.
>
>> On 7/26/14, Manohar Sharma <mspropertyresource@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BUT WE AT THE END , WHAT COULD DO..?
>>
>> IT IS ELECTED BY CITIZENS OF INDIA
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FERDINO REBELLO VERSUS OUTLOOK: A FIERCE LEGAL BATTLE IN THE RECKONING 


By Aires Rodrigues


Anyone planning to file a defamation case would be well advised to seek former Advocate General of Goa Subodh Kantak's opinion and guidance on his first hand turbulent experience with the libel law. 


In 2008 Subodh Kantak initiated defamation proceedings seeking from me 15 crores by way of compensation for the statements made against him.  In his petition Subodh Kantak had complained that the allegations against him were mentally agonizing, inconvenient and caused him a lot of indignation while vowing to use those 15 crores for charitable causes like old age homes, orphanages and towards the welfare of animals.


Few defamation cases land up in the High Court and the Supreme Court. But the Subodh Kantak case did take a long journey from the lower Court to the High Court and later to the Supreme Court. But ironically Subodh Kantak after being repeatedly fined by the Court for being absent, instead of pursuing his case decided to exit possibly realizing that  he was only getting further defamed on account of the documentary evidence with which  he was being confronted  during his  cross examination. Due to that legal battle we now have a 34 page landmark judgment passed by then Justice Nelson Britto of the Bombay High Court at Goa exhaustively outlining the parameters of cross examination in a defamation case.   


Goa is now set to witness another round of interesting and livid defamation proceedings. Former Chief Justice of the Allahabad High Court Ferdino Rebello has moved the Panaji Court seeking 75 crores by way of compensation from the 'Outlook' magazine for the alleged defamatory article published by the magazine on 4th October 2010. Ferdino Rebello in his  75 crore suit filed through his power of attorney Advocate Mario Pinto Almeida has interestingly not invoked the provisions of the Civil Procedure Code but has taken  recourse under  Articles 2361,2362,2363 read with Article 2389 of the Portuguese Civil Code.


Over the years courts around the world have developed case law that seeks to reduce defamation's infringement on freedom of expression. Unlike the defamation law which seeks to limit harmful statements, freedom of expression encourages public discourse. While the debate over the defamation law continues there is a general move to protect a broader spectrum of reasoned criticism. Even where courts have found a person guilty of defamation it has recognized that imposition of sanctions can have a dangerous chilling effect on the freedom of expression. In fact, international courts have developed new ways to protect freedom of expression in defamation cases. In defamation cases truth is a complete defence as the law does not permit a person to recover damages in respect of an injury to a character he does not possess. In a civil action for defamation the claimant needs to prove that the statements injured his reputation. The onus then shifts to the defendant to prove that the imputations or statements were either true or amounted to a fair comment.

 

The feisty jurist Ferdino Rebello versus the mighty Outlook magazine legal battle is poised to be an interesting case for the legal fraternity to watch. The Court proceedings which begin on 5th of August will definitely be marred by objections and counter claims. The first possibly being that it has been filed as Justice Ferdino Rebello though he retired way back on 30th July 2011.



On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Manohar Sharma <mspropertyresource@gmail.com> wrote:
BUT WE AT THE END , WHAT COULD DO..?

IT IS ELECTED BY CITIZENS OF INDIA


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
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IAC members may recall a campaign we started to shut down 2 highly
pornographic .IN websites about 2 months before the LS elections.

Since the sites were hosted in Mumbai our campaign reached Milind
Deora (MoS for IT) and Priya Dutt when the UPA Govt babus continuously
evaded closing these sites on IAC's complaint. But even these 2 MPs (1
of whom was actually the dealing junior Minister) didn't (or couldn't)
shut down these 2 highly lucrative sites which are allegedly financed
by relatives of a leading politico using havala through Pakistan.
These sites were so shameless that they even had scandalous
"celebrity" pictures of their own Party President in dirty business.

After the BJP Govt came to power IAC complained about 3 additional
porno .IN websites blatantly controlled from a chappie in Pakistan
(openly registered to him in PK). These websites had explicit dirty
"celebrity" pics of a current BJP MP (and former Union Minister)'s
celeb daughter. Despite this for almost 2 months the BJP Govt took no
action on IAC's complaint even though the dealing Union Minister (BJP)
is very close to the MP concerned.

Left with no alternative - and unwilling to pay the bribes demanded,
IAC translated about 20 pornographic pictures with their filthy
captions into Gujarati language and discreetly sent it to "The Man"
last week. 2 of these sites were finally "rendered inactive"
yesterday, the 3rd had stopped down on its own on 22 July.The 2
lucrative .IN porno sites with pics of Congress persons continue to
operate but those photos have been deleted (for now)

MORAL :
(1) There is no practical difference between Congress and BJP.
(2) Even if you have the cleanest persons at the top - the 2nd rung of
Ministers in both parties are as corrupt as before / each other.
(3) During Congress corrupt raaj - I don't recall tomatoes ever being
Rs.100/kg in Safal outlet

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Dear Mr Gandhi,
I am in full agreement with the points raised by you. Time and again politicians of the country, irrespective of party line, has put aspersions on Muslim citizens of this country. This is very humiliating. Why Sania Mirzas, and Sharukh Khans and the likes have to prove to Tom, Dik and Harry, their patriotism? Hindus have not taken the responsibility of this country. The country belongs as much to the Hindus as to the others. Yes, Narendra Modi have to show to the country that he is doing something against these idiots. The irony of this country is that politicians remain the same in every party.  
Dr Protyush Chatterjee 


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 10:19 AM, <cdr.gandhi@gmail.com> wrote:
While I do not doubt the administrative skills and honest intensions to do good for the society. his silence on some of the serious incidents in the recent past have done him no good. He should have made clear and unequivocal statements on matters like 1. death of a muslim boy in Pune in the matter of face book entry about Shivsena Chief and Shivaji 2.behaviour of shiv sena MPs in Maharashtra sadan 3. statement of BJP leader from Telangana about Sania Mirza 4 Praveen Togadia,s statements  etc. Unless he condemns them openly and catagorically his image will suffer seriously. In fact losing all 3 by elections in Uttarakhand should send him a message....H C Gandhi 


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 

To                                                                                                                                 

India Against Corruption

 

                                                                                                                               SOME INDIANS BEHAVE LIKE BEASTS

 

It is extremely disgusting to read repeatedly the nauseating news that even girls as young as three years are being abused by men, sometimes as old as sixty years. It turns one's stomach to hear news that  men  teachers molest the girl students even inside the school premises and fathers and brothers rape daughters and sisters. One wonders as to what is happening to the men folk in India, who are nothing but beasts.

Such condition is a direct reflection on the quality of governance that we have in India today and the type of people who sit as ministers , parliamentarians and legislators. What these beasts among men need are severe and life long punishment, which is the responsibility of the government to inflict on them.  But, some ministers laugh away at such incidents and condemn the media who expose these incidents and thus show that these politicians and ministers could themselves be the beasts, as they  treat these incidents light heartedly.

While  the politicians and the  ministers stand condemned , one person who comes to the mind of everyone immediately is the Prime Minister Mr. Narendra Modi.  What is he doing ? Why is he remaining silent ? Why is he not condemning these incidents in the strongest terms and ask the officials and  police to put down such incidents with all the force at their command. He is the Prime Minister and he has the duty and responsibility to protect the helpless girls and women.

By his silence , millions of people who voted for B JP government only based on expectations and faith  in Mr. Narendra Modi feel  helpless  and frustrated. One hopes Mr. Modi will wake up to his responsibility.

N.S.Venkataraman

Nandini Voice For The Deprived

Chennai


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