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Monday, December 23, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Now they are going to form the Govt.
Perhaps they needed this time to have mutual consultation-and shor;list who to be inducted as minister,their portfolios etc.

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:52:33 +0530
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

People who voted to AAP has done so for seeing AAP govt in Delhi. If any body expected a different opinion from those voters by again asking whether to form govt with outside support is committing time waste. There is no justification in undermining people's mandate reflected in the concluded election by getting further opinions from the voters and public. AAP this time committed big blunder which they must realise before taking a final decision

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

If AAP forms govt with support of the congress that is unfair to the Delhi voters. BJP got 32 plus one of their independent,in the 70 member assembly, They lost three seats to AAP with margin of less than one thousand i,e Sadar, Vikaspuri and Delhi cant, and five seats with less than two thousand votes. They have got very huge margin from some seats. In Kirari their winning margin of 48,526 is double than the votes secured by nearest AAP rival. In Krishna Nagar also their CM Candidate secured a huge margin over nearest rival. In total vote share also they outshined other parties. This calculation shows that Delhi In fact voted for BJP rule. In other words More voters wanted to see a BJP rule than AAP . If AAP is a genuine and model political force they could have rejected congress unconditional support by saying that more people voted for BJP rule. If congress did not want to go for re-election they could have extended the unconditional support to BJP rather than forcing AAP to committing the sin of forming government when people did not chose so.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

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Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Dear Friends,

I do not agree with your views. AAP has taken the refrendum from public of Delhi. The most of them opine with the formation of govt. in Delhi. To criticize the Arvind Kejriwal seems that the most of the comrads of IAC here criticizing the AAP for their vested interests! They are on the same track till now on the track they started first day. They are even looses their agenda of Jan Lokpal and agreed on weak lokpal due to having and opined with the views of BJP and Congress. They are sitting with BJP and Congress themselves and blaming Arvind who neither asked for support from anybody nor he himself took such decision earlier too. It was public and vote bank of AAP who cleared of opinion to form govt. then there is no other alternative except to go with the wishes of the public. The genious on this platform will always be in mood for criticizing AAP but soon they will feel that their opinion and views about the working of AAP was not honestly smelled.

I clearly advise you being a very common volunteer having very little knowledge that you do a constructive work in future otherwise you will loose that respect for which public has given you in past. IAC seems no where for any solution to the public of this country. To have own views and to praise each other inbetween few is your ideology... in common man's view you are nothing to do with the welfare of common man on ground level.

Girendra Singh, New Delhi

On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:32 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

If AAP forms govt with support of the congress that is unfair to the Delhi voters. BJP got 32 plus one of their independent,in the 70 member assembly, They lost three seats to AAP with margin of less than one thousand i,e Sadar, Vikaspuri and Delhi cant, and five seats with less than two thousand votes. They have got very huge margin from some seats. In Kirari their winning margin of 48,526 is double than the votes secured by nearest AAP rival. In Krishna Nagar also their CM Candidate secured a huge margin over nearest rival. In total vote share also they outshined other parties. This calculation shows that Delhi In fact voted for BJP rule. In other words More voters wanted to see a BJP rule than AAP . If AAP is a genuine and model political force they could have rejected congress unconditional support by saying that more people voted for BJP rule. If congress did not want to go for re-election they could have extended the unconditional support to BJP rather than forcing AAP to committing the sin of forming government when people did not chose so.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

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Sunday, December 22, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

The clear message from the recently concluded elections in Delhi as well as other State Assemblies that the electorate voted against Congress because of the rampant corruption in all walks of life. There are so many Scams in UPA I and II viz., Defence Purchases and (bribing) Politicians from Defence Funds (VK Singh's confession) CWGs, 2G, Coalgate, Adharsh, Ironore exports etc., and the Congress is directly involved in all these Scams. Eventhough these Scams's probes are monitored by SC, the Congress is working over time to cover up all these Scams through their various agencies like CBI, CVO, AG, Law Ministry. It is Congress's hypocrisy to term their total defeat in these 4 States due to local issues. There are no local issues for their utter defeat. The electorates in these 4 States have echoed the Nation's perception about Congress.

When the Delhi electorate voted to teach a lesson to the Congress, AAP's forming a Govt with the support of Congress is most unethical, undemocratic and goes against the majority's perception. By aligning with Congress for the sake of forming a Govt and to avoid re-election doesn't hold water and it is most opportunism. The majority wants a non-congress Govt. at Delhi going by their track records for the past 10 years. AAP's decision to form the Govt. with the support of Congress based on SMS referendum is hollow. What is the guarantee (genuineness) that overwhelming acceptance to align with Congress to form the Govt. received through SMS is from AAP supporters.How can AAP identify that the SMS received are from AAP supporters. The electorate voted against AAP and BJP in 28 and 32+1 constituencies are Congress supporters. These Congress supporters would have also sent SMS to accept Congress support. Hence the SMS acceptance cannot be concluded as AAP supporters' referendum.

To avoid re-election in such circumstances, Constitution should be amended to permit to form All Party Govt.(Like a National Govt) The majority party of the elected Representatives to head (CM) such a coalition Govt. The representation of each party in the Govt. can be decided based on the % of votes polled by each party. A time bound Common Minimum Programme should be chalked out and the Coalition Govt. should function within that framework with full accountability. There should be a collective decision for all programmes by all the Coalition parties. Each one should not drift away due to their different political ideologies In the interest of good governance and delivering goods to the people who voted them to power. The Coalition parties should sink their differences and work for a common cause. Any make shift arrangements other than this, is undemocratic and opportunism to the core. The Constitution may not subscribe to such an All Party Govt. at States.

The Delhi electorate have given overwhelming support to AAP only because of their Anti Corruption ideology. Aligning with the Congress to form the Govt, AAP defeats its own mandate. Indira Gandhi supported (it is a ploy) Charan Singh to form at Centre to pull it down to suit her convenience at the most opportune time. AAP will face the same ploy/music if it forms a Govt. with the support of Congress which is basically unethical. If AAP is taking support from Congress to form a Govt, it cannot claim to be Aam Aathmi Party.

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM

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On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

If AAP forms govt with support of the congress that is unfair to the Delhi voters. BJP got 32 plus one of their independent,in the 70 member assembly, They lost three seats to AAP with margin of less than one thousand i,e Sadar, Vikaspuri and Delhi cant, and five seats with less than two thousand votes. They have got very huge margin from some seats. In Kirari their winning margin of 48,526 is double than the votes secured by nearest AAP rival. In Krishna Nagar also their CM Candidate secured a huge margin over nearest rival. In total vote share also they outshined other parties. This calculation shows that Delhi In fact voted for BJP rule. In other words More voters wanted to see a BJP rule than AAP . If AAP is a genuine and model political force they could have rejected congress unconditional support by saying that more people voted for BJP rule. If congress did not want to go for re-election they could have extended the unconditional support to BJP rather than forcing AAP to committing the sin of forming government when people did not chose so.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

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Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

AAP or any party can not fight corruption unless they engage with solid moral foundations first . APP lied to people making posters referring to 15 years of corruption as if all the public money was looted and nothing was done. I love fight against corruption but it should have been done with honest acknowledgement of the work while promising that they would do better.

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On Friday, 20 December 2013 11:52 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

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RE: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

God forbid,if AAP comes to power in the centre will they be conducting opinion polls thru SMS,for every decision whether it is economic,health or foreign affairs.It is laughable.

navnith

Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 16:52:33 +0530
From: sureshandelhi@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

If AAP forms govt with support of the congress that is unfair to the Delhi voters. BJP got 32 plus one of their independent,in the 70 member assembly, They lost three seats to AAP with margin of less than one thousand i,e Sadar, Vikaspuri and Delhi cant, and five seats with less than two thousand votes. They have got very huge margin from some seats. In Kirari their winning margin of 48,526 is double than the votes secured by nearest AAP rival. In Krishna Nagar also their CM Candidate secured a huge margin over nearest rival. In total vote share also they outshined other parties. This calculation shows that Delhi In fact voted for BJP rule. In other words More voters wanted to see a BJP rule than AAP . If AAP is a genuine and model political force they could have rejected congress unconditional support by saying that more people voted for BJP rule. If congress did not want to go for re-election they could have extended the unconditional support to BJP rather than forcing AAP to committing the sin of forming government when people did not chose so.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

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Re: [IAC#RG] Aam Aadmis and Knicker Boys are requested to leave this list.

dear raminder ji ,

namaskar !

kripya raminder ji is poore vaktavya ko facebook par pls post karein jis se or bhi log inki asliyat jan payein, mujhe bhi is par shak tha aapki baat se yakeen ho gaya....., mere facebook id -PRASOON CHATURVEDI DEEPAK se hain .

sadar dhanyvaad.

prasoon chaturvedi

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Raminder Singh <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:

Sarbjit

Excellent new India Against Corruption website. If only the readers on your list took time to read it instead of whingeing away like dickless zombies.

Here's the tip: AAP and Congress are delaying their Morganatic marriage till Indian courts go on Christmas vacations.

Raminder

On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear IAC Friends

Very shortly the so-called Aam Aadmi Party will expose themselves as the A team (in Delhi) of Congress Party. They will also reveal themselves as the B team of Congress Party at the national level for the 2014 LS polls.

The entire exercise of bringing the Aam Aadmi Party to power in Delhi was scripted many years ago from the time Arvind attached himself to Aruna Roy and Shekhar Singh of NCPRI. Arvind Kejriwal was hand picked by them for Congress/CIA/Ford Foundation training outside India - Phillipines, Mexico etc and loads of tax free cash home delivered in the form of foreign awards like Ashoka, Magsaysay etc. to carry out his anti-national activities. As Arvind was under direct protection of Sonia Gandhi no departmental action was taken against him for dereliction of duty spanning many years.

Even the recent election victory of AAP in Delhi was pre-scripted. All the venom he spews against the Congress Party is false and crocodile tears just to show that AAP is different from Congress. Even this latest LokPal nautankibaazi is another example of that.

Basically in these elections the committed Congress votes were transferred to AAP who also picked up the non-BJP anti-Congress vote. There was also selective rigging of EVMs to carry this out

There were high level instructions from the Congress Party High Command that Shiela Dikshit is to be finished off so that a younger man like Ajay Maken will take over as Delhi CM. The anger against Congress for CWG scams and local issues has been expertly focused by AAP on Shiela - who was made the scape goat so Rahul Baba and his young team (who stole the CWG and 2G/3G money) can come in. The local Cong MLAs of Delhi were all told not to waste their time or money campaigning this time as this house is only going to last a few months.

All the local Congress grassroot workers in Delhi were complaining and grumbling. Usually they get at least 500 rupees per day during the campaign. They also get 2,000 rupees for manning a table in addition to good meals and a bottle of best angrezi daaru. This year there was none of that since High Command had sent the message out not to fight.

Now IAC knows that there are many people on this list who don't agree with what we write (and which is their loss not ours).

Since IAC is now gearing up for its main activities for the LS polls, we request all those persons who cannot accept the agenda of IAC to kindly leave this building

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IAC has a 2 fold agenda for LS 2014

a) To eliminate foreigners and foreign rulers, along with their lackeys

b) To ensure a secular indigenous federal government at the Centre

Subscribers are advised to read the India Against Corruption website to understand all this properly.

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Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

mY SYMPATHIES are with AAP. If they take people's mandate to form a Govt with outside support there is a problem. When they made it clear they are ready for re-elections, there was a problem. When they tell the Lt.Governer that BJP has more seats than them and they should form the Govt. there is a problem.

CAN ALL THE CRITICS, WELLWISHERS AND GENERAL PUBLIC DECIDE WITHOUT CONSULTING AAP, WHAT THEY WANT THIS PARTY TO DO.

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 4:52 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

People who voted to AAP has done so for seeing AAP govt in Delhi. If any body expected a different opinion from those voters by again asking whether to form govt with outside support is committing time waste. There is no justification in undermining people's mandate reflected in the concluded election by getting further opinions from the voters and public. AAP this time committed big blunder which they must realise before taking a final decision

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, SURESHAN P <sureshandelhi@gmail.com> wrote:

If AAP forms govt with support of the congress that is unfair to the Delhi voters. BJP got 32 plus one of their independent,in the 70 member assembly, They lost three seats to AAP with margin of less than one thousand i,e Sadar, Vikaspuri and Delhi cant, and five seats with less than two thousand votes. They have got very huge margin from some seats. In Kirari their winning margin of 48,526 is double than the votes secured by nearest AAP rival. In Krishna Nagar also their CM Candidate secured a huge margin over nearest rival. In total vote share also they outshined other parties. This calculation shows that Delhi In fact voted for BJP rule. In other words More voters wanted to see a BJP rule than AAP . If AAP is a genuine and model political force they could have rejected congress unconditional support by saying that more people voted for BJP rule. If congress did not want to go for re-election they could have extended the unconditional support to BJP rather than forcing AAP to committing the sin of forming government when people did not chose so.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

Sarbajit
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