IMPORTANT UPDATE
The Govt has just moved an Amendment Bill to the Prevention of Corruption Act 2013 yesterday in Rajya Sabha.
Ostensibly it seeks to set the time to grant sanction for prosecution to 3 months. In actuality it removes the right of a citizen to move a private complaint, and make it more difficult to prosecute retired public servants for corrupt acts committed by them in office.
I am happy to say that UPA Govt were forced to move it because after the decision in Subramaniam Swamy's SLP of Oct 2012, my own corruption complaint (see below) landed on MoS/DoPT's desk.
On 28.April.2013 I had asked the President of India ("Central Govt") for permission to prosecute Ajit Kr. Seth -Cabinet Secy. and also other officers on the "Screening Committee" which short listed 3 Information Commissioners last year in a grossly corrupt manner. (These posts are being sold and the bribe to be appointed as an IC was Rs. 2 crore in instance of an initially rejected candidate who was later selected).
The Vineet Narain judgment had settled that the time for the Competent Authority to give sanction to prosecute is 3 months plus 1 month where the AG's opinion is requested. My complaint is with MoS/DoPT (Narayanswamy) for 3 months now and the notings on it are that only an Amendment Bill to avert/overcome SC's finding (that Prevention of Corruption Act does not rule out prosecution on private complaint) can cut my complaint/request.
Hence the present Amendment Bill moved in Rajya Sabha which does just that. The files in my DoPT cases also have a remarkable propensity of doing the disappearing act.
Sarbajit---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Subject: Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>5) That I have been regularly following up and representing for my aforesaid Public Grievance to be resolved, however, Mr. Ajit Kr. Seth has been interfering to see that no action is taken. My latest communication dt. 21.04.2013 to Shri Alok Chaturvedi (Jt. Secretary/Cabinet Secretariat) has also been ignored.From: <helpline@rb.nic.in>I am aggrieved as follows:-
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Subject: Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
Dear Sir/Madam,Your Request/Grievance has been registered vide Registration number PRSEC/E/2013/06052 .Please quote the same in your future correspondance.
Note: This is a system generated mail. Please do not reply it.
1) That I had formally lodged a Public Grievance duly registered at no. CABST/E/2012/00216 on 26.06.2012 on the Central Govt web portal www.pgportal.nic.in.
2) That my grievance was specifically directed against certain misconduct of Mr. Ajit Kr. Seth the present Union Cabinet Secretary.
3) That whereas the time to dispose of the registered Public Grievances is 2 months, in my case it is lying unattended for over 9 months now.
4) That I am caused to say that my Public Grievance is unattended due to the specific allegations I have made therein concerning the role of Mr. Ajit Kr Seth in corruptly manipulating the appointment and selection of Central Information Commissioners in the Central Information Commission.
6) That I am a directly affected person in the matter since I was one of the 214 persons who applied for the said post, and that my eminence, qualifications and suitability for the post(s) cannot be denied vis-a-vis / over the candidates actually appointed. However, as an honest person I did not agree for / employ the usual bribes / dishonesties to advance my cause.
7) That in the circumstances I must PRAY that I either be appointed as a Central Information Commissioner (4 posts for which are still vacant) or that I be given the statutory permission / approval to prosecute Mr. Ajit Kr. Seth for corruption and other offences.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
Re: [IAC#RG] Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
On 28.April.2013 I had asked the President of India ("Central Govt") for permission to prosecute Ajit Kr. Seth -Cabinet Secy. and also other officers on the "Screening Committee" which short listed 3 Information Commissioners last year in a grossly corrupt manner. (These posts are being sold and the bribe to be appointed as an IC was Rs. 2 crore in instance of an initially rejected candidate who was later selected).
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Subject: Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Subject: Online Request/Grievance registration in President's Secretariat Helpline
Dear Sir/Madam,
Your Request/Grievance has been registered vide Registration number PRSEC/E/2013/06052 .Please quote the same in your future correspondance.
Note: This is a system generated mail. Please do not reply it.
1) That I had formally lodged a Public Grievance duly registered at no. CABST/E/2012/00216 on 26.06.2012 on the Central Govt web portal www.pgportal.nic.in.
2) That my grievance was specifically directed against certain misconduct of Mr. Ajit Kr. Seth the present Union Cabinet Secretary.
3) That whereas the time to dispose of the registered Public Grievances is 2 months, in my case it is lying unattended for over 9 months now.
4) That I am caused to say that my Public Grievance is unattended due to the specific allegations I have made therein concerning the role of Mr. Ajit Kr Seth in corruptly manipulating the appointment and selection of Central Information Commissioners in the Central Information Commission.
6) That I am a directly affected person in the matter since I was one of the 214 persons who applied for the said post, and that my eminence, qualifications and suitability for the post(s) cannot be denied vis-a-vis / over the candidates actually appointed. However, as an honest person I did not agree for / employ the usual bribes / dishonesties to advance my cause.
7) That in the circumstances I must PRAY that I either be appointed as a Central Information Commissioner (4 posts for which are still vacant) or that I be given the statutory permission / approval to prosecute Mr. Ajit Kr. Seth for corruption and other offences.
Monday, August 19, 2013
[IAC#RG] Fwd: CLARIFICATION
Here is yet another "co-convenor" of NCPRI to add to your list.
From: Bhaskar Prabhu <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:36 AM
Subject: Fwd: CLARIFICATION
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From: NCPRI India <ncpri.india@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Subject: CLARIFICATION
To: ncpri wc <ncpriworkingcommittee@googlegroups.com>
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Re: [IAC#RG] Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
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Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
From: Gopalarao ganugapati <gvgrao33@gmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013, 17:46
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
The eternal question is whether supreme court or the parliament is superior. Can any of our friends answer this?
On Sunday, August 18, 2013, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
> To
>
> India Against Corruption
>
> Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
>
>
>
> The move of the parliamentarians to make amendment to ensure that Supreme Court's verdict barring convicted persons from entering parliament and assemblies is causing concern to citizens who want probity in public life.
>
> Rajaji, the foresighted statesman wrote an article titled "Lawless Legislation" in Swarajya dated 14th September,1963, disapproving the tendency of parliamentarians to undo the verdict of Supreme Court. The extract from Rajaji's article is given below.
>
> The President and Prime Minister as well as the leader of the opposition in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha should read this and derive the right lessons.
>
> QUOTE LAWLESS LEGISLATION
>
> Laws passed contrary to fundamental principles of law have been called `lawless‟ laws. When they are contrary not only to fundamental principles but to the express Articles of the Constitution embodying them, they are still more lawless.
>
> And the climax of lawlessness is reached, when the law actually seeks to amend the Constitution itself, in order to bring it into line with itself. The lawlessness is aggravated by a spirit of open rebellion against the Constitution.
>
> The Constitution has, no doubt, laid down procedure for amending the Constitution. To utilize those provisions in order to legalize what is contrary to the intent and purpose of the Articles relating to fundamental – that is, inviolable – basic rights is to use the letter of the Constitution to defeat the Constitution itself and to "make faith void and sacred promises of none effect".
>
> These rights embodied in the Constitution are called fundamental, because they are not rights newly conferred on the citizen by the State but are a recognition and confirmation of freedom coeval with birth in a civilized country.
>
> If each time the Supreme Court gives an adverse verdict against the Government in respect of the validity of a law passed at its instance, the Government organize a constitutional amendment to be steam rolled though Parliament in order to make the judicial pronouncement of none effect.
>
> In the process, the image of the Supreme Court is bound to lose all public respect. Supreme Court will ultimately lose its own sense of confidence and independence. It is superfluous to point out that this is against the spirit and structure of the Constitution.
>
> UNQUOTE
>
> N.S.Venkataraman
>
> Nandini Voice For The Deprived
>
> Email :- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
>
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Sunday, August 18, 2013
Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [HumJanenge] SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners
http://righttoinformation.info/about-us/campaign-committee/
http://righttoinformation.info/about-us/working-committee-members/
With such kind of transparency on NCPRI's own website, IAC really fails to see with what face NCPRI can demand suo-moto transparency from parties like the Congress or the CPIM whose own websites are very detailed and up-to-date.
Since "ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in" was definitely an official NCPRI email address (do a google search) and has been on our (HJ's) mailing list for donkeys years, please see if your account has been hacked so that we may delete it to prevent such episodes in future.Dear NCPRIThe email from "ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in" to this IAC list was forwarded from Humjanenge@googlegroups.com. From what we can make out it was sent from "ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in" by somebody in South Africa using a Vodafone Blackberry which was forwarded from the website http:saverti.webege.com (hosted on hostinger.com) ip address "31.170.164.137". This website "webege.com" is on the URI blacklist and is used for all sorts of email scams.
BTW: What is NCPRI's position, if any, on appointment of ex-Bureaucrats as ICs in general, and the appointment of either P.K.Misra or one of the senior serving ICs as Chief Information Commissioners without any advt./notice specifically.
Sarbajit
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 2:38 PM, NCPRI India <ncpri.india@gmail.com> wrote:
CLARIFICATIONThis is to clarify that the NCPRI has neither issued any statement demanding the appointment of RTI activists as Information Commissioners nor has it authorised any person to issue such a statement. The email with the subject line: "SAVE RTI Appoint activists as CIC Information Commissioners" sent via email id: ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in, mentioning one of our members - Ms. Amrita Johri, is not only fraudulent but also mischievous. The official email id of NCPRI is ncpri.india@gmail.com. We request readers to check with us first whenever they receive such fraudulent messages.
Please circulate this clarification amongst your networks to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding about the NCPRI.Nikhil Dey, Anjali Bhardwaj & Venkatesh Nayak(Co-convenors of the NCPRI)On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Raminder Singh <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Amrita,RS "Raminder" Pabbi
The tip on RaiSinha is actually 4 months under India's first woman Chief Information Commissioner, with PKM getting in for now as an IC like ANT did ?
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, NCPRI INDIA <ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
To Dear all,15 August 2013The National Campaign for Peoples' Right to Information (NCPRI) supports the popular demand expressed by Anna Hazare that selections for 5 approved posts for Central Information Commissioners, including Chief Information Commissioner, be only filled from those applicants who are not from the category "widely experienced in administration and governance", which category has been garnering a disproportionately excessive share in such posts.Thank you,Amrita Johri9810273984(On behalf of the NCPRI)-- National Campaign for People's Right to InformationEmail: ncpri.india@gmail.comIn reply toDear all RTI activistsThe Govt and BJP have already decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner.We request all RTI activists to join Anna's Save RTI campaign.
Please reply to this email with your details like name address and mobile.
RTI activists please submit their names, mobile and address for Anna's Save RTI campaign. on this online form also if you are not member of any mailing list
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from giving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will keep his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTIOn Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
3) Who is Anna Hazare to select a panel of 5 names ?1) The online form is not working
2) In terms of Oct.18 2012 agreement, please do not use "India Against Corruption" wording under Anna's photo's
--On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, join bvga <joinbvga@gmail.com> wrote:
--PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME
Reply to his email or fill the online form
SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners
Save-RTI, stop DoPT secretly appointing only retired babus to Central Information Commission.
ANNA HAZARE APPEALS to INDIA
ANNA HAZARE says only citizens can save RTI now.
ANNA HAZARE says VOTE OUT BOTH Congress and the BJP unless all 5 Information Commissioners appointed now are RTI activists.
Next CIC P.K.Misra - Secretary DoPT
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from goving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will get his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI
What can citizen do to save RTI?
Section 12(5)of RTI Act
"The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance".This does not mean that only Babus can be appointedIndia's War Against Corruption will only succeed if honest persons experienced in fighting against corruption for years and who know the tricks of bureaucracy to deny information are appointed to the Information Commission. Anna has prepared a panel list of 5 such honest activist persons to send it to PM and demand that they and only they be appointed.
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Re: [IAC#RG] Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
From: Gopalarao ganugapati <gvgrao33@gmail.com>
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2013, 17:46
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
The eternal question is whether supreme court or the parliament is superior. Can any of our friends answer this?
On Sunday, August 18, 2013, Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com> wrote:
> To
>
> India Against Corruption
>
> Rajaji's views on amendment to nullify Supreme Court verdict
>
>
>
> The move of the parliamentarians to make amendment to ensure that Supreme Court's verdict barring convicted persons from entering parliament and assemblies is causing concern to citizens who want probity in public life.
>
> Rajaji, the foresighted statesman wrote an article titled "Lawless Legislation" in Swarajya dated 14th September,1963, disapproving the tendency of parliamentarians to undo the verdict of Supreme Court. The extract from Rajaji's article is given below.
>
> The President and Prime Minister as well as the leader of the opposition in Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha should read this and derive the right lessons.
>
> QUOTE LAWLESS LEGISLATION
>
> Laws passed contrary to fundamental principles of law have been called `lawless‟ laws. When they are contrary not only to fundamental principles but to the express Articles of the Constitution embodying them, they are still more lawless.
>
> And the climax of lawlessness is reached, when the law actually seeks to amend the Constitution itself, in order to bring it into line with itself. The lawlessness is aggravated by a spirit of open rebellion against the Constitution.
>
> The Constitution has, no doubt, laid down procedure for amending the Constitution. To utilize those provisions in order to legalize what is contrary to the intent and purpose of the Articles relating to fundamental – that is, inviolable – basic rights is to use the letter of the Constitution to defeat the Constitution itself and to "make faith void and sacred promises of none effect".
>
> These rights embodied in the Constitution are called fundamental, because they are not rights newly conferred on the citizen by the State but are a recognition and confirmation of freedom coeval with birth in a civilized country.
>
> If each time the Supreme Court gives an adverse verdict against the Government in respect of the validity of a law passed at its instance, the Government organize a constitutional amendment to be steam rolled though Parliament in order to make the judicial pronouncement of none effect.
>
> In the process, the image of the Supreme Court is bound to lose all public respect. Supreme Court will ultimately lose its own sense of confidence and independence. It is superfluous to point out that this is against the spirit and structure of the Constitution.
>
> UNQUOTE
>
> N.S.Venkataraman
>
> Nandini Voice For The Deprived
>
> Email :- nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com
>
--
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Re: [IAC#RG] Fwd: [HumJanenge] SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners
CLARIFICATIONThis is to clarify that the NCPRI has neither issued any statement demanding the appointment of RTI activists as Information Commissioners nor has it authorised any person to issue such a statement. The email with the subject line: "SAVE RTI Appoint activists as CIC Information Commissioners" sent via email id: ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in, mentioning one of our members - Ms. Amrita Johri, is not only fraudulent but also mischievous. The official email id of NCPRI is ncpri.india@gmail.com. We request readers to check with us first whenever they receive such fraudulent messages.
Please circulate this clarification amongst your networks to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding about the NCPRI.Nikhil Dey, Anjali Bhardwaj & Venkatesh Nayak(Co-convenors of the NCPRI)On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Raminder Singh <ramisingh.bbc@gmail.com> wrote:
Post: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net"Amrita,RS "Raminder" Pabbi
The tip on RaiSinha is actually 4 months under India's first woman Chief Information Commissioner, with PKM getting in for now as an IC like ANT did ?
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM, NCPRI INDIA <ncpri2004@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
To Dear all,15 August 2013The National Campaign for Peoples' Right to Information (NCPRI) supports the popular demand expressed by Anna Hazare that selections for 5 approved posts for Central Information Commissioners, including Chief Information Commissioner, be only filled from those applicants who are not from the category "widely experienced in administration and governance", which category has been garnering a disproportionately excessive share in such posts.Thank you,Amrita Johri9810273984(On behalf of the NCPRI)-- National Campaign for People's Right to InformationEmail: ncpri.india@gmail.comIn reply toDear all RTI activistsThe Govt and BJP have already decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner.We request all RTI activists to join Anna's Save RTI campaign.
Please reply to this email with your details like name address and mobile.
RTI activists please submit their names, mobile and address for Anna's Save RTI campaign. on this online form also if you are not member of any mailing list
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from giving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will keep his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTIOn Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
3) Who is Anna Hazare to select a panel of 5 names ?1) The online form is not working
2) In terms of Oct.18 2012 agreement, please do not use "India Against Corruption" wording under Anna's photo's
--On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:33 PM, join bvga <joinbvga@gmail.com> wrote:
--PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME
Reply to his email or fill the online form
SAVE RTI Appoint RTI activists as CIC Information Commissioners
Save-RTI, stop DoPT secretly appointing only retired babus to Central Information Commission.
ANNA HAZARE APPEALS to INDIA
ANNA HAZARE says only citizens can save RTI now.
ANNA HAZARE says VOTE OUT BOTH Congress and the BJP unless all 5 Information Commissioners appointed now are RTI activists.
Next CIC P.K.Misra - Secretary DoPT
The Govt and BJP have decided that Pradeep Kumar Mishra will be appointed as next Chief Information Commissioner. They have taken this decision without issuing any notice or seeking applications for the post. Govt. only wants pliable person in such sensitive positions who know the tricks by which one ex-government officer will help another government officer to escape from goving information. A person who will never impose penalty on the bureaucracy so that he will get his posh bungalow in Delhi after retirement. Pradeep Kumar Mishra is such a person and it is fixed with Sushma Swaraj that he will be sent to the Central Information Commission. GOD SAVE RTI
What can citizen do to save RTI?
Section 12(5)of RTI Act
"The Chief Information Commissioner and Information Commissioners shall be persons of eminence in public life with wide knowledge and experience in law, science and technology, social service, management, journalism, mass media or administration and governance".This does not mean that only Babus can be appointedIndia's War Against Corruption will only succeed if honest persons experienced in fighting against corruption for years and who know the tricks of bureaucracy to deny information are appointed to the Information Commission. Anna has prepared a panel list of 5 such honest activist persons to send it to PM and demand that they and only they be appointed.
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