Hum Janenge

Sunday, April 28, 2013

[IAC] Wilful non-compliance of the orders of the Central Information Commission

To :

Shri N.K. Gupta,

Joint Director P&S/CPIO,

Directorate of Purchase and Stores,

Vikram Sarabhai Bhawan, Anushakti Nagar,

Mumbai-400094

Date: 27.04.2013

Subject: Your letter DPS/JD/RTI-09(168)/2013/555 dated 19.04.2013

By your letter above mentioned you have again requested me to visit the Directorate at Mumbai with prior appointment for inspection of the records despite my previous objection to this.

Please note that your offer to merely provide me inspection of a few records at Mumbai, which records also you are not prepared to list out for me in advance, does not meet my requirements, since the form of information access I have requested the information to be provided to me is in the form of authenticated / true copy(s) of such records as have been very well specified by me and are very well known to you.

Please refer my previous letter whereupon I had specifically called upon you to confirm if it was your case that the information I had requested was voluminous in nature and would disproportionately divert your dept's resources. I had also requested you to provide me a list of documents which would be provided to me along with the number of pages which I would be given inspection of (which is the primary duty of the PIO).

I observe that you have neither been able to confirm that the information is voluminous etc., nor have you provided me the list of information which you hold and shall disclose to me.

Accordingly, I am caused to believe that you are in league with certain anti-national mafias (controlled from Pakistan) who are looting your department with impunity, so as to lure me to Mumbai under the pretext of providing me information there.

I therefore call upon you to immediately provide me (within 14 days of my letter) by Registered Post the duly authenticated photo-copies of all the files (complete in all respects) which the Honourable CIC had directed is to be given to me vide order dt 08.03.2013 in F.No. CIC/SM/A/2012/001398.

You may particularly take note that you are in wilful breach/disobedience of a clear direction issued by a public servant acting under his lawful powers directing you to provide me the said information within 10 working days, after all your frivolous objections and denials were dismissed in appeal, and which has attained FINALITY.

Also take notice that I believe that anti-national officers like yourself, acting as puppets of the nation's enemies, ought also to be reported to the National Investigation Agency (or other specialist bodies) and I shall do so if you persist with your corrupt and mis-conductive ways and don't provide me the information in hardcopy and forthwith as was directed.

Due to the threat perception from you and your conspirators, I am circulating this email widely throughout the nation to anti-corruption activists, and with copies to all the Senior Govt functionaries, including your Dept's Minister and the Secretary over the "NICNET" so that the true state of affairs inside the Dept of Atomic Energy is known.

(Dr Sandeep Kumar Gupta,)

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(India Against Corruption)

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Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

Dear Alll

a lot of discussion is going on defining the Hindu.

well I think the subject matter has been dealt in great detail by our courts and also laws specially so Hindu Personal Laws.

Hindu is not a homogeneous social or racial group. It is also not a religion. It is the word which was given by Arabs like many other words like JATS by ARABS and RAJPUTS by British.

So let us not try to create something new. the beauty and strength of Hinduism is that it provides you certain key freedoms and those are:

1. Freedom of practising your faith? To the extent of even not believing in GOD.

2. Freedom to have your own sub identity.

3. Freedom to use your own logic or reasoning to question what you wish too.

I feel that Shankracharya provided a right base to bring a right balance which in fact assimilated the Jains and Budhist faiths in one platform. So let us not disturb that.

what we shall focus are?

1. Abolition of caste system. It is a shame.

2. Prevent the attempt of temple owners (more than 90% temples in the country are owned by a rich class of people who are now trying to become spokesperson of Hindus. This is the lobby which also owns Congress and BJP both.. This lobby has been controlling political power in the country since independence. This lobby is also opposing Modi) to monopolise it as a religion. The day you try it rigoursly, it will break.

Colonel Ashok K Singh

On 21 April 2013 16:20, Sainik Sangh <gs@sainiksangh.org> wrote:

Friends

Its sad we cannot enforce a single law , a single language, a single education system when we have a single flag. We are incomplete by everything that constitutes a nation which is why we are still fumbling seven decades after slipping into freedom. And yet all these which are essential to define a nation are imposable with the current constitution. India has to restructure , reform and reconstitute may be into United States of India ! Natural would be one Punjab and one Bengal! All states autonomous ! Utopian but a practical solution! Religion must be ditched it has no function in a progressive society! E.g. Label Hindu has done little good to improve the quality of those who swear by it . Islam has only helped to galvanize violence as man is unable to understand what it stands for . Religion must be nationalized !Homogenous ethnicity can be a driving force for civilizational advance. Germany Japan and China y Multiculturism is corrupting as it pushes society towards capitalism and money centricity .Corruption is innate and essential component of practice of democracy as we do !

Regards

chauhan

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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:41 AM

To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

Dear Ravi

Where is the "corruption" element in not having a Uniform Civil Code ?

1) the Const of India has listed UCC in the Directive Principles of State Policy (saying it is highly desirable but cannot be enforced). The courts have also said the same repeatedly.

2) It is only due to the tolerance of Mughal emperors like Jahangir (whose mother was originally a Hindu) that Hindus were allowed to have their own civil law during Muslim rule - or have you forgotten that ? The British carried on with that policy by adding Christians to the list of persons allowed their own personal law.

3) IAC's position is very clear since 1924. If Muslims want 4 wives for their males (this is a gross over-simplification) then let them have it How does it affect you ? Similarly nobody is forcing you to eat Kutha meat nor can you force a Muslim through law to eat Jhatka. In fact if having 4 wives is so very good for Muslims then more Hindu males will start demanding it for their own community. Let there be hearty and organic union (marriages) between Hindus and Muslims when all the good things of each community are exchanged between them.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Deepak Verma

If you do not see corruption in not enacting a Uniform Civil Code, a sine qua non for a society truly ruled by law, then you can definitely opt out of any discussion on corruption. It is my opinion that all rules must be neutral-gender, religion, community, region etc wise. The specifics in any case will have to be considered by courts which should have judges of impeccable integrity, competent, transparent in their dealings and accountable.

regards

ravi

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Re: [HumJanenge] No punishment to the Culprits who enacted the Deficient RTI Act?, Comments. D J Shah

When Judiciary makes some collaboration in giving judgment , ignoring the facts on record purposely what should be Punishment for such Judiciary!!!
How to proceed for ?

Can he be punished , taken to Bar Council, Judicially or else.??

Shah D J

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Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] No punishment to the Culprits who enacted the Deficient RTI Act?

Dear All,

When the High Court has confirmed the legal irregularity, principle of justice demand that the ones who committed the said irregularity be suitably punished.

That should work as deterrent to repeat such irregularities.

I wonder as to why the Culprits who enacted this Law in Bihar have not been punished by the High Court.

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From: Rajnish <rajnisharai@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] An smart reply by the CPIO - What to do?
To: "HumJanenge@googlegroups.com" <HumJanenge@googlegroups.com>, "humjanenge@yahoogroups.co.in" <humjanenge@yahoogroups.co.in>
Date: Wednesday, April 24, 2013, 10:09 AM

माननीय पटना उच्च न्यायालय ने केस संख्या CWJC 17616/2012 (शिव प्रकाश राय बनाम बिहार राज्य) के मामले में बिहार सूचना का अधिकार नियमावली की धारा 6 (2) को अवैधानिक मानते हुए, प्रधान सचिव सामान्य प्रशासन विभाग (बिहार सरकार) को नियमावली में सूचना का अधिकार क़ानून के धारा 19 (3) को ध्यान में रखते हुए तीन सप्ताह के अन्दर संशोधन करने का आदेश दिया है. इससे लगभग तीस हजार सूचना आवेदकों को राहत मिल सकती है, जिनका सूचना आयोग में दायर द्वितीय अपील, प्रथम अपीलीय अधिकारी के निर्णय के अभाव में ठुकराया जा चुका है. आप संलग्न फाईल में माननीय उच्च न्यायालय के आदेश का अवलोकन कर सकते हैं.

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
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Sent: Friday, 19 April 2013 8:03 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] An smart reply by the CPIO - What to do?

An smart reply by the CPIO

22.03.2012.

To

M K Gupta

Address

Subject: Supply of information under the Right to Information Act, 2005.

Sir,

I am directed to refer to your application dated 1/7.02.2013 received on 01.03.2013 and to state that your application is under process and you will be informed appropriately at the earliest possible opportunity.

Yours faithfully,

Sd/

22.3.13.

Under Secretary

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Re: [HumJanenge] Submitted Documents misplaced then ?

Were your documents Original?What I see is, the Public Authority should file FIR with the local police station. With the copy of FIR you can apply for duplicate documents.

Send personal msg.

Bunch

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Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Submitted Documents misplaced then ?

Respected Members,

If we submit any documents alongwith our application at any state or central govt office and after acknowledging the same, if they deny (after some time) that they have not

received documents attached, when we ask progress (RTI) on that then what to do? How to do? Please guide.

Regards

Rajesh Bhatt
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[IAC#RG] Dear Arvind : Letter 1 of many to come

Dear Arvind

[copy: to Secretary DERC for information in ongoing electricity tariff and true up matters.]

A few of your seniors from IIT have asked on a public forum if IAC can cooperate with AAP? My reply can be accessed here.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nbteamindia/message/76

A message just flashed by on my PC saying that you have called off your 15 day electricity protest. I am not surprised.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/kejriwals-party-cancels-protest-after-phone-call-from-sheila-dikshit/1/268146.html

As your well wisher, and as a resident of Delhi who is directly affected by electricity tariffs - unlike you who stay in Uttar Pradesh, I say please don't make the same old mistake of blindly trusting the Congress whenever you are on the ropes and need a face saving exit for your masochistic exhibitionism.

The news report says you are calling off your protest only on the basis of a telephone call Shiela (!) had with one of your aides. What is wrong with you? Are you fit to be President of a political party in which Shri Shanti Bhushanji has invested so much of his money and staked his personal reputation ?

I hope you insist that each and every one of those 1.05 million replies you claim to have from the people of Delhi (which, knowing you, I greatly doubt exist) shall be properly diarised and filed for future reference and action.

To aid you, I shall certainly file an RTI seeking to know the diary nos. of all those persons who I suspect to be consumers of stolen electricity which you and your political associates supply (in "black").

Actually, if you had any honest intentions, you would file those 1 million letters directly to the DERC, so that the DISCOMs could be directed by Mr Sudhakar take the appropriate action to curtail this 'bijli theft' by your clients.

Otherwise please sell the letters as 'raddi' (waste paper), at least you can raise some party funds in that way.

With best wishes

Sarbajit

to:
Er Arvind Kejriwal
National Convenor/President
Aam Aadmi Party

from
Er. Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption

Re: [IAC#RG] Leadership

Agreed but if PM is prisoner of corrupt opportunists then how can he be a PM too at the same time! He should either be declared prisoner of war ,or should resign, or be removed! That simple!

It is this unprincipled market culture in Indian society which is the secret of its mastery over art of survival as Slaves Now the white man is no longer there slaves are looking for leaders!

Chauhan

Maj gen rtd

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On 27-Apr-2013, at 8:36 PM, Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com> wrote:

I fully endorse your views. Unfortunately, there is no national or regional leader who
is ready to contain or eradicate corruption in the present Indian system. P.M. is prisoner
of corrupt oppurtunists.

Hari Dev Goyal
011-25082239

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:14:46 +0530

From: jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Leadership

In fact our PM as leader , should have taken the responsibility for all the scams and resigned long back.

We now need a leader who should convert every citizen of our country as Indian .

Brig J S Ahuja

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Vijay Verma <vijay.pti@gmail.com> wrote:
We need leader like Lal Bahadur Shastri who has guts to take responsibility of a minor error which dose not relate direct to him like after a train accident he did resign as then Railways Minister, and we have leaders which only take credit for good things and point out finger on others when some thing went wrong and refuse to take responsibility. This my humble request to all those people who wants to became a leader please understand the meaning of leadership. If you leads the nation you must be followed by millions if you find that few is people is around you, that means only those getting facilitation by you.

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Re: [IAC#RG] Leadership

Dear Sir,

Everywhere in the world where Democracy is in vogue for Administration of the State, there are no leaders. All those in Legislatures and/or outside shouting to do something are politicians. Politicians by the definition in GoogleSearch has the character as stated in the attachment. Kindly let us know where from you get leaders? In Bhaarat especially the पुढारी are only politicians. There cannot be anyone as a leader unless he is politician. Under such condition you cannot have leaders at all. We must find some other way to have leaders, don't you agree sir?

With regards,

--------Mukund Apte

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Rakshpal Abrol <rakshpal.abrol@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

No one is free person in our country and also no one wants to lead the people for betterment.

We only talk and discuss something which we are unable to acheive.

The Prime Minister or any selected or elected person can;t reveal the truth after they have taken the oath or affurmation while taking the charge of post

allotted under the Constitution .
They are not allowed to speak in the house of people or at Rajya Sabha without obtaining permission from the Chairperson.

Warm regards,

Rakshpal Abrol
Consumer Activist
9820203154
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From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
To: Ajay Dixit <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; "vijay.pti@gmail.com" <vijay.pti@gmail.com>; Brig. <jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com>
Cc: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 27 April 2013 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Leadership

I fully endorse your views. Unfortunately, there is no national or regional leader who
is ready to contain or eradicate corruption in the present Indian system. P.M. is prisoner
of corrupt oppurtunists.

Hari Dev Goyal
011-25082239

Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 19:14:46 +0530

From: jagjit.ahuja@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Leadership

In fact our PM as leader , should have taken the responsibility for all the scams and resigned long back.

We now need a leader who should convert every citizen of our country as Indian .

Brig J S Ahuja

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Vijay Verma <vijay.pti@gmail.com> wrote:
We need leader like Lal Bahadur Shastri who has guts to take responsibility of a minor error which dose not relate direct to him like after a train accident he did resign as then Railways Minister, and we have leaders which only take credit for good things and point out finger on others when some thing went wrong and refuse to take responsibility. This my humble request to all those people who wants to became a leader please understand the meaning of leadership. If you leads the nation you must be followed by millions if you find that few is people is around you, that means only those getting facilitation by you.

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