Sunday, April 21, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Liar #1

Dear TEAM Members: 

We are getting wonderful concepts to follow but it is high time to have a networking of those committed transparent unblemished people who may take an oath to not create any misunderstanding among themselves and not try to break such an alliance that the TEAM will be successful to get the required seats initially to bring about change for which people are now  looking for desperately.    This will pave the way for transparent and good governance for ALL.

Best Wishes,  




On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:47 PM, vasant sardesai <vasant_sardesai@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
You are right; but the difficulty is that change of system is not possible unless we change the government.
 
V. S. Sardesai

--- On Wed, 17/4/13, ss sohi <sadhusohi@gmail.com> wrote:

From: ss sohi <sadhusohi@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Liar #1
To: "Joyprakash Chhetry" <take_off_team@yahoo.com>
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Date: Wednesday, 17 April, 2013, 11:30 PM


Dear Veterans,
1. The choice is not between Rahul or Modi. We need to work for the change. Not the Govt, but the system. Then only we may get our OROP & Justice.
Rgds.
Col Sohi. 9815107744.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Joyprakash Chhetry <take_off_team@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Sainik Sangh,
I beg to differ from the comments of Maj. Gen. AP Singh. What ever be the concoction RBI manufactures may not necessarily be 100% true. Even if its true the scenario today is : Who is going to lead India tomorrow ? Modi with confidence of an eagle or Rahul, who gives the impression of a lost dove ?
Choice is yours folks. Change is always welcome in maintaining a healthy democracy.
Joy P. Chhetry
Ex Sqn. Ldr.
Mumbai.

 

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Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Liar #1

WHAT PETTY TALK WHICH HAS NO RELEVANCE TO HOW WE ON  KEY BOARD   CAN BE CONTRIBUTING TO REAL ISSUES ON GROUND  WHICH IS NOT SHARE OF  FDI . GUJRAT IS NO GAUGE AND EVEN IF SO CAN THIS TEMPLATE BE REPLICATED ELSEWHERE  ? AND WHAT IS THE TEMPLATE IN ANY CASE ? WHAT ARE ITS CONTITUENTS WHAT IS THE MATRIX THIS SHOULD BE REVEALED  AND SCRUTINISED . EXAMINE DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO AT ALL REPLICATE THE GUJRAT MODEL? DO WE HAVE THE SAME RESOURCES  PER CAPITA  A DELIVERY AND ENGAGING CAPABILITY FOR ESTABLISHING SUCH BRIDGEHEADS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ? ANYWAY WHAT GUJRAT IS WE DON'T KNOW YET ! ARE WE BEING SWEPT BY THE TIDAL WAVE OF DISAFFECTION  JUMPING INTO BAND WAGONS FREE RIDE BEING PEDDLED BY DIFFERENT CAMPS AS BEFORE WITH HOPE THAT WE REACH SUNNY UPLANDS OF PROPERITY WITH DIGNITY !  PICKING UP ODD STATES AS EXAMPLE IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT ASSEMBLING TOOLS FOR THIS WHICH IS PURELY  A SOCIO ECONOMIC MATTER NOT WHO APPLIES THE TILAK AND WHO WEARS A BEARD OR AMASSES WEALTH WITHOUT WORK ( SATTA BAZAAR THE NATIONAL  PAST TIME )  . YOU HAVE TO EXAMINE ALL FACTORS HOLISTICALLY THREATS TO STABILITY AND APPLICATION OF RESOURCES , THREATS TO CITIZEN INTEGRITY , TO NATIONAL   SOVEREIGNTY  AND  INTEGRITY ETS AND SEE WHAT POLITICAL   FORMUL;A WILL DELIVER. MARKET CAPITALISM IS APPARENTLY HEADING US  FOR A PERMANENT MEMBERSHIP   OF CLUB OF  PREDATORS ! People must revolt one day for self esteem in spite of  being Hindus!!
Chauhan
arun pratap singh
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President sainiksangh  
 
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Thanks.
 
 
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
"Reserve Bank of India's FDI figures encompassing the decade of 2000 to 2011 reveal that while Gujarat received just about $7.2 billion in FDI, Maharashtra got $45.8 billion and Delhi over $26 billion. Even Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, with a $8.3 billion and $7.3 billion share, got a larger piece of the national FDI pie.
Albeit the overall FDI inflow into India fell by some 30 per cent during 2012-13, Gujarat has beaten this, as the numbers suggest, with a bigger decline close to 50 per cent."



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Re: [IAC#RG] Work for change

plan banayen hum sab taiyar hain



2013/4/21 Atul Deshmukh <atulmd13@gmail.com>

Sawal hai ki kisko vote de?
Bjp communist etc ke pass Bhi to koi neta nahi hai.  Kiske bharose rahein hum.

A M  Deshmukh
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On Apr 20, 2013 10:21 PM, "Vijay Verma" <vijay.pti@gmail.com> wrote:
अब ये हमें सोचना है कि  इन जैसे नेताओ को झेलते रहे या फैसला करें की अपने बीच  से ऐसे संवेदनशील, जुझारू और देशभक्त लोगों को खोज कर सत्ता की बागडोर सौंपे जिससे देश के कम से कम मूलभूत  सुविधाओं की कमी महसूस न हो !

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Re: [IAC#RG] Let Sense of Justice prevail, if He replies!

dear sir.

I fully endorse the view expressed by sri N M Joshi and Sri Ravindran P M .Our Indian Government act like the Govt Of pakistan and the law is used against only Hindu peoples to suppress their demand and feelings. The Government is encouraging only terrrorist and the protector of these terror groups.Even  attempt to  protect our lives and properties has been spoiled by these law makers who are in the helm of this government.I feel for these situation we all Indians held responsible.We have chosen a Government
which is working against the interest of the peoples and most corrupt in- humane in nature, with  less governence and more corrupt in nature goverment.We must pledge to over throw this government as soon as possible with our valuable voting power

Jai Bharath matha ki jai


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ravi

The Kashmir problem is due to vested interests (read Abdullahs + Nehrus) on both sides of the LOC for whom the continuing tension is a profitable family business. It has nothing to do with religion.

Most Kashmiris know that India is the better option, the ONLY grievance they have is that the HUGE CENTRAL FUNDS are not reaching them directly but are going into Swiss a/cs of vested interests (including all those Ketchup Colonels, Booze Brigadiers and Ration Generals).

So please stop this Congress sponsored canard about pampering of Kashmir/Kashmiri's and instead focus on kicking out the Nehru-Gandhis and their retainers.

Sarbajit


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Qasmi,

I tend to agree with Mr Joshi more than you. Even after 66 years of freedom we have not been able to establish a secular democracy in this country. The 1st necessity for a secular state is to have a uniform civil code, which we do not have till date. And all this special status and favour to kashmir is only pampering the secessionists and but for the military presence we would have lost kashmir to Pakistan long back! The only logical proces to integrate people is to treat everybody at par and ensure fair play. While this is certainly not happening the opposite is happening with gay abandon, that is playing vote banks and open favouritism to minorities.

ravi




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RE: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

 Friends

Its sad we cannot enforce a single law , a single language,  a single education system  when we have a single flag. We are incomplete by everything that constitutes a nation which is why we are still fumbling seven decades after slipping into freedom. And yet all these which are essential to define a nation are imposable with the current constitution. India has to restructure , reform and reconstitute may be into United States of India ! Natural would be one Punjab and one Bengal! All  states autonomous ! Utopian but a practical solution! Religion must be ditched it has no function in a progressive society! E.g. Label Hindu  has done little good to improve the quality of those who swear by it . Islam has only helped to galvanize violence  as man is unable to understand what it stands for . Religion must be nationalized !Homogenous ethnicity can be  a driving force  for civilizational   advance. Germany Japan and China y Multiculturism  is corrupting as it pushes society towards capitalism and money centricity .Corruption is innate and essential component of practice of democracy as we do !

Regards

chauhan

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Definition of "Hindu"

 

Dear Ravi

Where is the "corruption" element in not having a Uniform Civil Code ?

1) the Const of India has listed UCC in the Directive Principles of State Policy (saying it is highly desirable but cannot be enforced). The courts have also said the same repeatedly.

2) It is only due to the tolerance of Mughal emperors like Jahangir (whose mother was originally a Hindu) that Hindus were allowed to have their own civil law during Muslim rule - or have you forgotten that ? The British carried on with that policy by adding Christians to the list of persons allowed their own personal law.

3) IAC's position is very clear since 1924.  If Muslims want 4 wives for their males (this is a gross over-simplification) then let them have it   How does it affect you ? Similarly nobody is forcing you to eat Kutha meat nor can you force a Muslim through law to eat Jhatka. In fact if having 4 wives is so very good for Muslims then more Hindu males will start demanding it for their own community. Let there be hearty and organic union (marriages) between Hindus and Muslims when all the good things of each community are exchanged between them.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Ravindran P M <raviforjustice@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Deepak Verma

If you do not see corruption in not enacting a Uniform Civil Code, a sine qua non for a society truly ruled by law, then you can definitely opt out of any discussion on corruption. It is my opinion that all rules must be neutral-gender, religion, community, region etc wise. The specifics in any case will have to be considered by courts which should have judges of impeccable integrity, competent, transparent in their dealings and accountable.

regards

ravi

 

 

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Re: [IAC#RG] Online Grievance registration no. CABST/E/2012/00216



Dear all,
today there is a news item that in Arunachal Pradesh AAP will be aligning with NCP and Peoples Party of Arunachal Pradesh for the forth coming Panchayat and Municipal elections. From,  No tolerance to Corruption/ JAN LOK PAL BILL to NO POLITICS to POLITICAL PARTY to CORRUPT PARTY.  Fast Progress indeed. This  indeed is the Politics.
Harendra Singh
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Re: [IAC#RG] CIC reserved orders

Dear Sarbajit

Thanks for posting this mail to the group and Ms Nidhi for her urge to get some grass root feedback on such an important issue.

I dare say, the ICs must be investigated for corruption of the worst kind- taking money from delinquent PIOs and FAAs (equal to, more than, less than the penalty liable to be imposed, based on the character of the PIO/FAA) and failing to impose the mandatory penalty under the RTI Act.

I am attaching a petition I had submitted to the Prez of India to remove the then CIC Wajahat Habibullah. Also attached is my suggested amendments to the RTI Act submittted with the petition. Later I had submitted an even more detailed list of suggestion to the Natchiappan committee of Parliament. But for now the two attached documents will suffice to discern the fraud being pertptrated by the CIC. Unfortunately the courts seems to be in league with the information commissions in subverting the transparency law.

I had similarly sought sacking of the CIC, Kerala SIC also on obvious subversion of the law but being political appointments these criminals get away with all their crimes with the support of their bigger brother criminals!

regards n bw

ravi


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Nidhi

I'm posting this to a mailing list as you requested

From my own experience I can state as follows:-

CIC decisions are reserved when

a) The IC is incompetent and circulates it to his cronies for advise when he gets stuck.

b)  The IC and the Public Authority have predecided the matter before the hearing, but the appellant throws them off course in the hearing and disrupts their well laid plans so they need to reserve it.

c) Open disagreement between the members of a Bench. This happened to in one of my cases (DDA matter) between Wajahat Habibullah and M.L.Sharma, and Mr. Habibullah ended up drafting a bizarre order which resulted in CIC Management Regulations 2007 being struck down in the High Court for his arrogance.

d) IC needs to seek advise of CIC's Legal dept.

e) IC concerned simply hands it over to the "winning side" to draft. I have personally drafted many orders at CIC which were simply brushed up and delivered by them later.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Nidhi Sharma <nidhi2479@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sarbajit

I am working on a story on CIC and would appreciate your help and inputs. I have come across a few cases where CIC hears final arguments and reserves its judgements  for months. I was wondering if you have come across the same problem in your interactions with CIC? Or would it be possible for you to put this question across to your googlegroup and see if there are some responses?

Would appreciate your help
Regards
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Re: [IAC#RG] Online Grievance registration no. CABST/E/2012/00216

To:
Shri Alok Chaturvedi
Nodal Officer and Joint Secretary
Cabinet Secretariat
Rashtrapati Bhawan,
New Delhi

21-April-2013

Sir

Sub: PUBLIC GRIEVANCE
CABST/E/2012/00216 received on 26.06.2012

I refer to the above mentioned reference number generated in response to my complaint against Mr. Ajit Seth (Union Cabinet Secretary).

It is a matter of regret that your Department / Secretariat is unable to reply to me concerning serious allegations I made against Mr. Ajit Seth and which I am not prepared to withdraw and am quite interested in prosecuting.

In view of the non-reply from your side to a duly registered grievance which is supposed to be disposed off within 2 months, I am now caused to say that Mr.Ajit Seth is a corrupt officer and nothing but a corrupt officer and the only reason he was appointed as the Cabinet Secretary is because he is a dishonest person appointed to perpetuate frauds on eminent citizens like myself and the ordinary citizens who use RTI in general.

It is certainly strange that the Cabinet Secretariat has been unable to reply to me for over 9 months now or resolve my grievance.  It is noteworthy that Mr. Ajit Seth had also previously ignored 2 emails of notice I had sent him before lodging my referred public grievance.

I am therefore calling upon you to either redress my grievance forthwith by appointing me as a Central Information Commissioner (there are 4 vacant slots), or else grant me statutory permission / sanction to prosecute Mr Ajit Seth under the Prevention of Corruption Act or any other similar Law. I am now not interested in any other sham resolution which I apprehend shall be palmed off on me to close this grievance.

I am also circulating this email to many public mailing lists so that the public at large can know the truth behind the appointment of pliable Central Information Commissioners who are invariably retired public servants. It is an open secret that Mr. Basant Seth was appointed as Information Commissioner because he was heading a Karnataka (Manipal) based Bank and close to the Bellary Brothers who were Ms. Sushma Swaraj's campaign managers in Karnataka at some point in time and consider her to be their "godmother".

For your ready reference I am attaching the PDF of the present status of my said public grievance.

Kindly acknowledge receipt of this communication and the action taken thereon.

yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
National Convenor
India Against Corruption, jan andolan

B-59 Defence Colony
New Delhi 110024
Tel 09311448069

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Dear Sir/Madam,

Your Grievance has been registered vide Registration number CABST/E/2012/00216 .Please quote the same in your future correspondance.

Note: This is a system generated mail. Please do not reply it.


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