Saturday, March 9, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Filed RTI. Money deducted from A/c. Since last 1 hr no conformation from site.Saying do not refresh etc. Should I still wait or close

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

The site was only activated on 27.Feb.2013.
Maybe they will be giving out activation codes
manually initially during working hours.(ie. on Monday)

They also have a phone helpline - call on Monday and
see if it helps.

On 3/10/13, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nop. Not there at all. I already checked.
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Check your spam folder.
>>
>> Nowaadys lots of emails from .nic.in and .gov.in are ending up in spam
>> folders because these domains are being spoofed by conmen.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Vidyut Kale
>> <wide.aware@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I registered too, was able to login, but haven't received any activation
>>> code :/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, raja bunch
>>> <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Registered myself. Good,better late than never.
>>>> Bunch
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; humjanenge <
>>>> humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 March 2013 11:42 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational
>>>>
>>>> Dopt's
>>>> http://www.rtionline.gov.in/
>>>> http://www.rtionline.gov.in/FAQ-RTI-Online.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Need an SBI (or SBI associate) debit card
>>>> First Appeals are free.
>>>> Time is not known because application goes to the "nodal officer".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

The site was only activated on 27.Feb.2013.
Maybe they will be giving out activation codes
manually initially during working hours.(ie. on Monday)

They also have a phone helpline - call on Monday and
see if it helps.

On 3/10/13, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nop. Not there at all. I already checked.
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Check your spam folder.
>>
>> Nowaadys lots of emails from .nic.in and .gov.in are ending up in spam
>> folders because these domains are being spoofed by conmen.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Vidyut Kale
>> <wide.aware@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I registered too, was able to login, but haven't received any activation
>>> code :/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, raja bunch
>>> <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Registered myself. Good,better late than never.
>>>> Bunch
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; humjanenge <
>>>> humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 9 March 2013 11:42 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational
>>>>
>>>> Dopt's
>>>> http://www.rtionline.gov.in/
>>>> http://www.rtionline.gov.in/FAQ-RTI-Online.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Need an SBI (or SBI associate) debit card
>>>> First Appeals are free.
>>>> Time is not known because application goes to the "nodal officer".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Nop. Not there at all. I already checked.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Check your spam folder.

Nowaadys lots of emails from .nic.in and .gov.in are ending up in spam folders because these domains are being spoofed by conmen.

Sarbajit


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
I registered too, was able to login, but haven't received any activation code :/


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Registered myself. Good,better late than never.
Bunch

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 11:42 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Dopt's
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/FAQ-RTI-Online.pdf

Need an SBI (or SBI associate) debit card
First Appeals are free.
Time is not known because application goes to the "nodal officer".



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Re: [IAC#RG] Baba Ramdev to communalise politics

I find the methods of analyzying politics on this list sometimes impractical. You are unlikely to find a "clean" public figure or politician. Particularly among the "high TRP" mob.

In my view, if my focus is on India, then I have to look at the dynamics more than the picture. It does not matter if the prince is a frog. In the end, it is a basket of crabs whose energies will do one good thing - keep the others in check.

In my view, rather than look at who is "moral" or "honest", it is useful to begin as George Orwell begins his famous essay on Gandhi "SAINTS should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent..." immediately followed by "..but the tests that have to be applied to them are not, of course, the same in all cases."

I have nothing for or against any public entity - Kejriwal, Ramdev, Gandhis, Modi, whoevers included. In my view what is interesting is what they do to each other, and which are the resultant gaps we can exploit to break the "elite club" wide open for more and more people to start messing with.

Thus, I am happy about all scam exposes, Ramdev's demands, scrutiny of Ramdev and so on. I am specifically grateful for Kejriwal and Co for being a wild card. I know many are certain that there are hidden agendas at work, (and I would be surprised if there weren't!) but fact is that many lines have been redrawn and others have been blurred, and this should be seen as a larger picture to exploit opportunity for the masses to get more and more information and disrupt status quos profiting some people using the abundant motivation of their rivals :D

I think that anywhere where established crony relationships get rattled in favor of the new corrupt is still a step up. And now that this can of worms is open, there will be escalating scrutiny and we should aim to do this over and over. I believe this will help the country more than evaluating individuals - none of whom appear satisfactory.

"Lesser evil" is bullshit. "This evil guy" is also bull shit.

The menu currently asks if you want to eat shit that is baked, roasted or cooked in spices. Same difference. More useful to look at the procurement process than menu.

Vidyut
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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Check your spam folder.

Nowaadys lots of emails from .nic.in and .gov.in are ending up in spam folders because these domains are being spoofed by conmen.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
I registered too, was able to login, but haven't received any activation code :/


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Registered myself. Good,better late than never.
Bunch

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 11:42 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Dopt's
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/FAQ-RTI-Online.pdf

Need an SBI (or SBI associate) debit card
First Appeals are free.
Time is not known because application goes to the "nodal officer".



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Re: [IAC#RG] लोगोंको उल्लू बना रहे है क्या ? IAC brings CBI back under RTI (for now)

Dear Babubhai

If you choose to complain abut IAC's activities we shall have to find another IAC ombudsman to replace you.

As you are not on the operational side of IAC or India's RTI movement nowadays you have perhaps not kept abreast of developments.

On 31.Oct.2012 in Mr. C.J.Karira's CIC matter the CBI vehemently argued that all CBI does is investigate allegations of corruption. In fact it is admitted that CBI's primary task is to investigate allegations of corruption.

The proviso to RTI Act's section 24 makes it clear that even exempted organisations must disclose information on allegations of corruption under RTI.  So the bulk of information from CBI is still accessible under RTI. No doubt they got a stay order in Mr. Karira's case but it does not come in the way of other citizens seeking info from CBI

So CBI was never out of RTI for the info of allegations of corruption, and it has been brought back again by IAC (for now). CBI was never taken out due to proviso in section 24 RTI Act.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Vaghela B D <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:

लोगोंको उल्लू बना रहे है क्या ?

Govt took Income-Tax Investigation and CBI out of RTI.

Still not brought back.

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Re: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Let us see the tricks to be plied by PIOs. The e-filing in SC is operational since 1.1..06 but hardly 20-30 out of 25000 petitions per year  are filed through this innovative method.And most of these are filed by petitioners-in- person residing at distant places & dismissed at the initial stage without any virtual relief. It becomes difficult to tamper with and override priorities when the record is in electronic form which is disliked by the bureaucrats as well as advocates.SC talks to professionalize RTI by induction of law graduates as PIO, FAA leaving aside the question that Advocates/ Law graduates are the greatest hurdle to justice in India hence are prohibited in Family Courts, Some Information Commissions and Labour Commissionaires etc.  See more details at:
http://justicemiracle-mrp.blogspot.in/2011/10/blog-post_05.html

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Registered myself. Good,better late than never.
Bunch

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>; humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 9 March 2013 11:42 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] RTI online facility seems operational

Dopt's
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/
http://www.rtionline.gov.in/FAQ-RTI-Online.pdf

Need an SBI (or SBI associate) debit card
First Appeals are free.
Time is not known because application goes to the "nodal officer".



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