Saturday, December 15, 2012

Re: [IAC++] Mr Justice Altamas Kabir Hon'ble Chief Justice of India may like to ask Mr Justice M Y Eqbal few pertinent questions on "Discretionary Quota"...

It is interesting.
1. Will Honble CJI consider this as PIL?
2  Is father responsible?
3. Will reserved quota come in this category as many deserving are deprived.
4  Did daughter pass out using Tata Quota  or had to say Tata By the Way?
5. What will happen to the poor patients?
I am just curious to know how Justice works.

On 16-Dec-2012 9:54 AM, "Babubhai Vaghela" <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr Justice Altamas Kabir,
Hon'ble Chief Justice of India,
New Delhi

Dear Sir,

Your kind attention is invited to the media news -
Complaint against one judge said daughter took Tata quota seat for MBBS 12 years ago

In this regard, you may like to ask Mr Justice M Y Eqbal few pertinent questions:

  1. As HC Judge, who was expected to protect the Fundamental Rights of the Citizens, whether he considered "Discretionary Quota" legal and non-violative of the Right to Equality - Universal Fundamental Right when his daughter reportedly got admission to MBBS?

  2. Why he knowingly allowed "Discretionary Quota" MBBS seat for his undeserving daughter encroaching upon the legitimate right of some other meritorious student?

  3. In the event of these types of cases of "Discretionary Quota" coming up before him to adjudicate, what will be his stand?

Regards,

--
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur, Ahmedabad - 380051
M -  94276 08632
http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
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Complaint against one judge said daughter took Tata quota seat for MBBS 12 years ago
 
SC
 
Ajmer Singh 

Shortly before the Supreme Court collegium cleared the appointment of Madras High Court Chief Justice

M Y Eqbal to the Supreme Court, a retired principal of a Jharkhand medical college had complained to the President and Prime Minister that corporate house Tata nominated Justice Eqbal's daughter for a discretionary quota seat in a medical college 12 years ago.

The complainant, Rai Sudhir Prasad, admits that Justice Eqbal had passed "adverse remarks" against him in a case 15 years ago. Calling this a "motivated complaint," Justice Eqbal told The Sunday Express that the Chief Justice of India has rejected it.

Justice Eqbal became a judge of Patna High Court in May, 1996 and, after the formation of Jharkhand, became a judge of Jharkhand High Court in November 2000. He became Chief Justice of the Madras High Court in June, 2010.

In his complaint, Prasad, former principal and medical superintendent of the Patliputra Medical College & Hospital in Dhanbad, asked the President and Prime Minister to "keep his (Justice Eqbal's) elevation as SC judge in abeyance". He wrote to them in September.

He said the judge's daughter, Sadaf Khan, filled an MBBS seat allotted to TISCO at the MGM Medical College in Jamshedpur.

Under an arrangement with the Tata Main Hospital in Jamshedpur, students of the MGM Medical College used to train at the TMH. In return, TISCO was allowed to recommend four students for discretionary seats at MGM Medical College — this quota no longer exists.

Sadaf Khan's name figured in a letter J J Irani, the then managing director of TISCO, sent to the Bihar government on December 11, 2000, listing nominees for TISCO seats at the medical college.

When his comments were sought, Justice Eqbal acknowledged that his daughter's case was recommended by the Tatas as per existing norms.

"There was a provision where people could be accommodated against reserved seats. My daughter had scored well, qualified also but could not make it to the list. So she was adjusted against a reserved seat," Justice Eqbal said.

"I didn't go to them seeking a favour. I didn't go to Tatas or JJ Irani. I never met him. There was a provision against which she was adjusted."

On Prasad's complaint, Justice Eqbal said: "This is an attempt to malign me and the CJI is well aware of this. He has rejected this complaint. This is a motivated complaint and the complainant may have been aggrieved by my orders."

When asked about this, Prasad admitted that the single bench of Justice Eqbal had passed "certain adverse remarks" against him in a 1997 writ petition concerning posting of a subordinate doctor to Dhanbad Medical College.

Tata Steel spokesperson Charudatta Deshpande said: "This is an old matter. As far as we can recollect, admission to Ms Sadaf Khan was given at the request of the then Bihar government against the reserved seats in the MGM Medical College."

When contacted, Union Law Minister Ashwani Kumar said: "This is something I have only heard about but not dealt with or checked. So many such complaints against judges land up with the government but their scrutiny and establishing veracity and the whole process of selection of judges is the exclusive domain of the collegium and not the government or the law ministry."

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/complaint-against-one-judge-said-daughter-took-tata-quota-seat-for-mbbs-12-years-ago/1045937/


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Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy

Dear Sir,

I am Peethambaran Kunnathoor, a working journalist for a Trade Publication in Chennai. Basically I am from Kerala and currently in Chennai. I had worked in New Delhi five years ago.

Please let me know whether you are interested to convert this movement (IAC) into a national movement. How can we organise a unit in Chennai and also one in Kerala. I am ready to associate.

thanking you

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[IAC++] "Govt plans own channel, real autonomy for Doordarshan" - Let the work speak for itself. No need for Govt Propaganda through TV.

Ms Himanshi Dhawan,

Let the work done by the Governments speak for itself. 

There is no need to waste public money in showing their faces on Govt TV and doing propaganda to mis-inform the people whether by the Center or by the States. 

If the Govt Functionaries want, they can very well use freely available Social Media to reach out to the entire world.

Regards,

--
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur, Ahmedabad - 380051
M -  94276 08632

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CC : Dr Manmohan Singh, New Delhi - manmohan@sansad.nic.in
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Govt plans own channel, real autonomy for Doordarshan

Dec 16, 2012, 04.50AM IST TNNHimanshi Dhawan ]

I&B ministry was looking to recast Prasar Bharati as a financially autonomous public service broadcaster.

NEW DELHI: The information and broadcasting (I&B) ministry has asked regulator Trai for a review of the policy which disallows government ownership of television channels. This letter to the regulator is seen as a precursor to the Centre launching a TV channel of its own.

On November 30, I&B secretary Uday Kumar Varma wrote to Trai chairman Rahul Khullar asking him "to kindly provide your recommendations as to whether the following may be allowed" in broadcasting: central and state government ministries and departments, state-owned companies, undertakings and joint ventures.

Varma cited the instances of the governments of Gujarat, Punjab, Andhra Pradesh and the Union HRD ministry seeking permission to operate and distribute their TV channels which the I&B ministry has turned down because the current policy doesn't allow government presence in broadcasting.

Sources in the ministry said Doordarshan was allowed because it was ostensibly run by an autonomous body, Prasar Bharati. They also said that it was a question of time before Prasar Bharati is likely to be asked to raise and manage its own finances and that would automatically lead to the public broadcaster asserting its autonomy.

It's in this context that the government's letter seeking Trai's views on government presence in broadcasting acquires significance. Incidentally, Doordarshan enjoys 92% coverage of the country through its terrestrial network with a viewership of about 2.5 crore people.

Not just TV channels, the government is also keen on having a presence in print and radio too. There is urgency to the move in view of elections in 2014 when the government having its own media would be undoubtedly helpful.

While the Punjab government sought permission for its own TV channel, the Gujarat government and HRD ministry sought the I&B ministry's nod to set up educational channels on their own DTH platforms.

90% of I&B funds spent on Prasar Bharati

Sources said that the I&B ministry was looking to recast Prasar Bharati as a financially autonomous public service broadcaster like the BBC with independent sources of funding like licence fees, commercial programming and ads.

At present 90% of the ministry's fund is spent on funding Prasar Bharati's operations. I&B minister Manish Tewari is said to have discussed the issue with senior memeber of the government. "Why should there be a veil of hypocrisy in running one's own channel or paper? If there are 800 TV channels, allowing 30 more will only be a drop in the ocean. If there are 3,000 radio stations, there can be space for 30 more, and the same is true for papers," the sources said.

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Govt-plans-own-channel-real-autonomy-for-Doordarshan/articleshow/17632585.cms

[IAC++] Mr Justice Altamas Kabir Hon'ble Chief Justice of India may like to ask Mr Justice M Y Eqbal few pertinent questions on "Discretionary Quota"...

Mr Justice Altamas Kabir,
Hon'ble Chief Justice of India,
New Delhi

Dear Sir,

Your kind attention is invited to the media news -
Complaint against one judge said daughter took Tata quota seat for MBBS 12 years ago

In this regard, you may like to ask Mr Justice M Y Eqbal few pertinent questions:

  1. As HC Judge, who was expected to protect the Fundamental Rights of the Citizens, whether he considered "Discretionary Quota" legal and non-violative of the Right to Equality - Universal Fundamental Right when his daughter reportedly got admission to MBBS?

  2. Why he knowingly allowed "Discretionary Quota" MBBS seat for his undeserving daughter encroaching upon the legitimate right of some other meritorious student?

  3. In the event of these types of cases of "Discretionary Quota" coming up before him to adjudicate, what will be his stand?

Regards,

--
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur, Ahmedabad - 380051
M -  94276 08632
http://twitter.com/BabubhaiVaghela
About me in Annexure at - http://bit.ly/9xsHFj
http://www.youtube.com/user/vaghelabd
(Administrator - Google Group - Right to Information Act 2005)
http://groups.google.com/group/Right-to-Information-Act-2005/about?hl=en

Complaint against one judge said daughter took Tata quota seat for MBBS 12 years ago
 
SC
 
Ajmer Singh 

Shortly before the Supreme Court collegium cleared the appointment of Madras High Court Chief Justice

M Y Eqbal to the Supreme Court, a retired principal of a Jharkhand medical college had complained to the President and Prime Minister that corporate house Tata nominated Justice Eqbal's daughter for a discretionary quota seat in a medical college 12 years ago.

The complainant, Rai Sudhir Prasad, admits that Justice Eqbal had passed "adverse remarks" against him in a case 15 years ago. Calling this a "motivated complaint," Justice Eqbal told The Sunday Express that the Chief Justice of India has rejected it.

Justice Eqbal became a judge of Patna High Court in May, 1996 and, after the formation of Jharkhand, became a judge of Jharkhand High Court in November 2000. He became Chief Justice of the Madras High Court in June, 2010.

In his complaint, Prasad, former principal and medical superintendent of the Patliputra Medical College & Hospital in Dhanbad, asked the President and Prime Minister to "keep his (Justice Eqbal's) elevation as SC judge in abeyance". He wrote to them in September.

He said the judge's daughter, Sadaf Khan, filled an MBBS seat allotted to TISCO at the MGM Medical College in Jamshedpur.

Under an arrangement with the Tata Main Hospital in Jamshedpur, students of the MGM Medical College used to train at the TMH. In return, TISCO was allowed to recommend four students for discretionary seats at MGM Medical College — this quota no longer exists.

Sadaf Khan's name figured in a letter J J Irani, the then managing director of TISCO, sent to the Bihar government on December 11, 2000, listing nominees for TISCO seats at the medical college.

When his comments were sought, Justice Eqbal acknowledged that his daughter's case was recommended by the Tatas as per existing norms.

"There was a provision where people could be accommodated against reserved seats. My daughter had scored well, qualified also but could not make it to the list. So she was adjusted against a reserved seat," Justice Eqbal said.

"I didn't go to them seeking a favour. I didn't go to Tatas or JJ Irani. I never met him. There was a provision against which she was adjusted."

On Prasad's complaint, Justice Eqbal said: "This is an attempt to malign me and the CJI is well aware of this. He has rejected this complaint. This is a motivated complaint and the complainant may have been aggrieved by my orders."

When asked about this, Prasad admitted that the single bench of Justice Eqbal had passed "certain adverse remarks" against him in a 1997 writ petition concerning posting of a subordinate doctor to Dhanbad Medical College.

Tata Steel spokesperson Charudatta Deshpande said: "This is an old matter. As far as we can recollect, admission to Ms Sadaf Khan was given at the request of the then Bihar government against the reserved seats in the MGM Medical College."

When contacted, Union Law Minister Ashwani Kumar said: "This is something I have only heard about but not dealt with or checked. So many such complaints against judges land up with the government but their scrutiny and establishing veracity and the whole process of selection of judges is the exclusive domain of the collegium and not the government or the law ministry."

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/complaint-against-one-judge-said-daughter-took-tata-quota-seat-for-mbbs-12-years-ago/1045937/

Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy

Mister

You know nothing about the hisstory of Islam in India. Islam had been in India since 800 AD and very much before the Babar who conqered India in 1500 or so maybe. Even before that for 300 years Muslims kings were ruling the India. since 1200.  Why you had forgoten loddhis, Sayyids, Khaljis, Tughlaqs etc  How about the Mahmoud of Ghori ? You can keep imagineing that Muslims rules in India only starts with Babar. You can keep talking language of your Mahatma Gandhi and  keep it up your ghand-i. Today nation only needs action of banana cutters to solve the curruption problem. Now thanks to Dr. Roy we know where to buy them also.

Mohd Ali Baig
IAC, dist coordinator


On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:56 PM, kalyanam sundaresan <ask_maadhyama@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Mr. Sarbajit Roy,

I beg to disagree with you on your references on Religions when we are working how to root out corruption in the country.  I beg to remind you that before Babur came to India or Bharath or Hindustan whatever name you call it, there was only one Religion viz., the HINDU Religion. So, where is the question of "India is always a Secular Country when there was only one Religion viz., the HINDU Religion in the Country at that time.   Of course Hindu Religion divided by various offshoots like Budhdha, Sikh, Jain etc. Babur brought Islam to India and tarnished the Hindu culture/way of life and demolished and looted lot temples and built Mosque thereon. History says how many times Gajini Mohammed waged war against India and looted and demolished the temples and taken away the wealth from India. Then came the Christians  who  colonized the country to the British Monarch.

After the Independence, the Framers of the Constitution decided that India should be a Secular Country instead of declaring it as Hindustan.  If it is  Hindustan as claimed by you, India  should be a "Hindu Country" viz., "Non-Secular".  So, your version of "Hindustan" and "Secular" and "India always Secular" is conflicting. India was declared as "Secular Country after Independence and framing the Constitution. In fact, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, the first President of the Independent India was in total disagreement with the Framers of the Constitution in declaring India as a "Secular state".    If I am wrong please correct me. 

Your reply to Shri Navnith Krishnan is totally unparliamentary and undemocratic.  You must mind your words when you reply.  You cannot become emotional and use unparliamentary words to a very responsible Member of IAC.  It only shows your highhandedness  and autocratic way of functioning of the  IAC National Convenor. 

You are most welcome to forcibly put-forth your views in a most democratic  manner/language without offending others feelings. 

If am wrong please correct me.  After all, we are all joined together from different part of the country without seeing face to face and knowing each other for a social cause to root out Corruption which is affecting the Political and Economic Developments in the Country for which lakhs of most honest, committed and patriotic citizens are toiling day and night.   

During the Freedom struggle. Mahathma Gandhi said, "A War is forced on us and We should fight and Win it without Bloodshed".  Similarly, the War on Corruption started by all Patriotic, Honest and Committed Citizens should be Won without wounding others feelings. People who respond to the call of India Against Corruption are all most respected, experienced in various fields and more matured Citizens.  Some of them may be Senior Citizens.  Each and every individual have their own experience and knowledge of their respective field of working and  different fields also. Mr. Navnith Krishnan is a very Senior Citizen with lot of experience in various fields.    As a National Convenor of of IAC, my humble request to you, whatever may be the provocation of individuals, you should only correct them politely without offending their feelings. 

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM


Re: [IAC++] Anna Hazare is himself his own biggest enemy

Dear Mr. Sarbajit Roy,

I beg to disagree with you on your references on Religions when we are working how to root out corruption in the country.  I beg to remind you that before Babur came to India or Bharath or Hindustan whatever name you call it, there was only one Religion viz., the HINDU Religion. So, where is the question of "India is always a Secular Country when there was only one Religion viz., the HINDU Religion in the Country at that time.   Of course Hindu Religion divided by various offshoots like Budhdha, Sikh, Jain etc. Babur brought Islam to India and tarnished the Hindu culture/way of life and demolished and looted lot temples and built Mosque thereon. History says how many times Gajini Mohammed waged war against India and looted and demolished the temples and taken away the wealth from India. Then came the Christians  who  colonized the country to the British Monarch.

After the Independence, the Framers of the Constitution decided that India should be a Secular Country instead of declaring it as Hindustan.  If it is  Hindustan as claimed by you, India  should be a "Hindu Country" viz., "Non-Secular".  So, your version of "Hindustan" and "Secular" and "India always Secular" is conflicting. India was declared as "Secular Country after Independence and framing the Constitution. In fact, Dr. Rajendra Prasad, the first President of the Independent India was in total disagreement with the Framers of the Constitution in declaring India as a "Secular state".    If I am wrong please correct me. 

Your reply to Shri Navnith Krishnan is totally unparliamentary and undemocratic.  You must mind your words when you reply.  You cannot become emotional and use unparliamentary words to a very responsible Member of IAC.  It only shows your highhandedness  and autocratic way of functioning of the  IAC National Convenor. 

You are most welcome to forcibly put-forth your views in a most democratic  manner/language without offending others feelings. 

If am wrong please correct me.  After all, we are all joined together from different part of the country without seeing face to face and knowing each other for a social cause to root out Corruption which is affecting the Political and Economic Developments in the Country for which lakhs of most honest, committed and patriotic citizens are toiling day and night.   

During the Freedom struggle. Mahathma Gandhi said, "A War is forced on us and We should fight and Win it without Bloodshed".  Similarly, the War on Corruption started by all Patriotic, Honest and Committed Citizens should be Won without wounding others feelings. People who respond to the call of India Against Corruption are all most respected, experienced in various fields and more matured Citizens.  Some of them may be Senior Citizens.  Each and every individual have their own experience and knowledge of their respective field of working and  different fields also. Mr. Navnith Krishnan is a very Senior Citizen with lot of experience in various fields.    As a National Convenor of of IAC, my humble request to you, whatever may be the provocation of individuals, you should only correct them politely without offending their feelings. 

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM

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