Thursday, October 4, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] "Selfless Action" by Gandhi Pariwar

1) Sonia Gandhi and family don't get money from the Indian Govt.

2) They get their money from their private Trusts and Foundations.

3) The money into these trusts comes from Rich Indian Industrialists
and FOREIGN Governments and FOREIGN Corporates (through dummy NGOs)
who want "favours" from her. All information is on Internet and in
Annual Reports of these Trusts.

4) When an Indian citizen got (by mistake of the CPIO) a RTI reply on
the subject containing the information that would make their primary
Trust a "public authority" under the RTI Act, the Italian Mafia simply
shut his mouth by making him a Central Information Commissioner.

Sarbajit

प्रिय रंजन Priya Ranjan wrote:
> How come she is fourth richest woman in the world if Gandhi parivar never
> got a penny from Indian government?
> You got to be kidding.
> -p
>

Re: [HumJanenge] "Selfless Action" by Gandhi Pariwar

How come she is fourth richest woman in the world if Gandhi parivar never got a penny from Indian government?
You got to be kidding.
-p

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
The recent media row about the Rs. 1,880 crores supposedly spent on
Sonia Gandhi's foreign trips is all rubbish and is not backed by the
RTI information.

Here is a summary of the facts as people are circulating to me:

1) Gandhi family are selfless karmayogis who selflessly act for the
nation and pay for all the expenses of their SPG bodyguards (hotels,
plane tickets, salaries etc) from their own funds without burdening
the Indian citizen.

2) That since the money is from their personal account they are not
required to report it to the Parliament, or the Govt or the NAC. Hence
it cannot be given in RTI

3) That Smt. Sonia Gandhi does not take even 1 rupee as salary from
the Govt despite her entitlement as Union Cabinet Minister and
Chairperson NAC.

4) That Smt. Sonia Gandhi only takes her (tax-free) dues as an
ordinary Member of Parliament.

5) That the property No. 10 Janpath is given to Ms. Sonia Gandhi to
live,  in her capacity as widow of former Prime Minister and for
security reasons.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sonia-gandhi-rahul-gandhi-lok-sabha/1/146474.html

The Bhagwad Gita (2:39 .. 2:41) says that for such selfless action the
Gandhi Parivar can expect to be released from the endless cycles of
birth and death.



--
Priya Ranjan, Practicing Ph.D. in Internet Technologies

Official Internet Wanderer
दिलदार वेताल ऑफ़ इंद्रजाल :)
Dr. Coalmohan Singh is the biggest criminal of India responsible for 2 lakh carores of coal scam single handedly. He blames Ahmad Patel though :)

Can Mr. Kapil "Shameless" Sibbal and his Boss Dr. Corruption Singh explain to us why there is no Indian academic institution in global ranking? India need to let the god scientists and researchers do the work and fire the slack.

Why is India a petty #86 in supercomputing that too with grace of NVIDIA when it brags of global IT and computing industry powerhouse ? Is the Indian government moron or Industry is plain greedy? Hey Kapil, what is so special about 61? Lol what a computational moron you are :)

If you remember last scandal at Harvard, they were charging loads of money to Col. Gaddafi of Libya for his image building in a democratic fashion:) How Harvardish :) The latest is a fraud psychologist apart from 150 students caught cheating in a class of "Congress 101" :)

India is a socialist, secular, democratic, mobile and most corrupt and criminal system. It costs people of India 2.8 lakh carores +thorium scam +16 lakh carores of engineering scams :) Think of the alternatives.

Swami Vivekananda-He once claimed " I hold him a traitor, who having been educated at expense of the masses, does nothing to better their status".


A day spent without the sight or sound of beauty, the contemplation of mystery, or the search of truth or perfection is a poverty-stricken day; and a succession of such days is fatal to human life.
-Lewis Mumford

Due to failure in debt servicing, I will be selling Association for India's Development, Inc. I am looking for more bids, let me know if you are interested :) Association for India's Development owes Dr. Priya Ranjan $16million adjusted for inflation in glorious american tradition of debt :) Its time to start debt servicing now.

A list of failures-
Prof. Mohan Bhagat@UMD, USA-Huge failure, and coward. Ran out of perfection :) Likes to be president of rinky dinky organizations :)
Dr. Ravi Kuchimanchi, Ph.D. from UMD-Not only he failed he flew off the scene of Narmada dam like a loser :) leaving Medha Patkar alone :)
Association for India's Development-Biggest failure in India History :) Too much self serving talk and no reality :)

Association for India's Development, Inc.- Fraud communist party-Making a living off adivasis for last 20 years :)

Prof. Mohan Bhagat - Please return our money. You are good for nothing. Failing gazillion times. Sucker stop selling Gandhiji and go commit suicide :) Stop your nautanki/dramatics :) Hey sucker, time to go to Lower kinder garten (LKG) to upgrade your arithmetic multiplication skills :) Adivasis are waiting for you and your Jeevansaathis. Give them all the money you raised in their name rather than making a living for yourself :) What a loser !! Moving to Narmada valley for last twenty years :)

Get a movie made using Adivasi money :) Hey sucker, join capitalist party even better let people know that you don't stand for anything and will say things based who is in front of you :) You know what these kind of people called :) 

Dr. Ravi Kuchimanchi-Sinking things in a row, Narmada Campaign, Bijli Bike and Bilgaon Micro-Hydel :) Sucker you should sink yourself rather than wasting hard earned money of donors. Had you sank atleast you have been a martyr now you are petty coward begging for money after bragging about commie credentials.

जल ही जीवन है और स्पेक्ट्रम  ही जीवनरेखा है, दोनोँ को बनियागिरी से बचाइए..और उनका समुचित उपयोग कीजिये !

Prof. Mohan Bhagat@UMD ate up all the money raised for adivasis :) He also wanted everyone else to move to Narmada valley. When I asked him if he is moving himself sucker says-"Do you think I am perfect?". Its time to teach him some perfection and value of making promises rather than just eating up public money. Let me know if you want to help me :) 

This sucker doesn't understand that people taking $250k/yr of hard earned money of american public don't talk about communism. Dead Gawd, please pay him in his own fraud currency send some emails to his ph.d. advisors in hell/heaven to box his contorted ears :) Also send him to preparatory school for 80+ people so that he can be operated on his fraud gandhian halo.

So much for Delhi Univ. Ph.D. and putting glazed stickers of Mohandas Cowardchand Gandhi. Both Mohans turned out to be equally coward :) History does repeat itself.
 


[HumJanenge] "Selfless Action" by Gandhi Pariwar

The recent media row about the Rs. 1,880 crores supposedly spent on
Sonia Gandhi's foreign trips is all rubbish and is not backed by the
RTI information.

Here is a summary of the facts as people are circulating to me:

1) Gandhi family are selfless karmayogis who selflessly act for the
nation and pay for all the expenses of their SPG bodyguards (hotels,
plane tickets, salaries etc) from their own funds without burdening
the Indian citizen.

2) That since the money is from their personal account they are not
required to report it to the Parliament, or the Govt or the NAC. Hence
it cannot be given in RTI

3) That Smt. Sonia Gandhi does not take even 1 rupee as salary from
the Govt despite her entitlement as Union Cabinet Minister and
Chairperson NAC.

4) That Smt. Sonia Gandhi only takes her (tax-free) dues as an
ordinary Member of Parliament.

5) That the property No. 10 Janpath is given to Ms. Sonia Gandhi to
live, in her capacity as widow of former Prime Minister and for
security reasons.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/sonia-gandhi-rahul-gandhi-lok-sabha/1/146474.html

The Bhagwad Gita (2:39 .. 2:41) says that for such selfless action the
Gandhi Parivar can expect to be released from the endless cycles of
birth and death.

Tuesday, October 2, 2012

RE: [HumJanenge] Gandhi@2012

          Thanks for raising the banner of Gandhi thought. It is high time the powers must be come out of their ‘shells’ of personal interest, take Gandhi to heart in right earnest and serve the people rather than themselves. Gandhi lived a life of utter simplicity on the model of an average Indian; let the rulers emulate him. Our economy can gather high momentum if our Exchequer is not depleted by catering to the unending selfish and self-serving aspirations – free large bungalows, free travel and services of all sorts, voluminous endless escalation in their emoluments, perks, personal security guards (keeping the people away at bayonet point) – a total antithesis of what Mahatma Gandhi was!

 

    This is to extend my greetings of GANDHI JAYANTI to you, to all Members of your Organisation and all your dear and near Ones. GANDHI the Yug-purush, whom World (UNO) honoured by dedicating this day as International Non-violence day, practiced what he preached & preached what he practised: PREM (love) and SATYA (truth). From PREM  flowed AHIMSA (Non-violence); from SATYA flowed  NYAYA/SAMBHAVA (Justice/Equality).

 

          Today India is broken up by Hate and Untruth. In power-politics, ‘He who is not with me, is my enemy’ – a psychology of Servility;  Gandhi brought Freedom to us.

 

          On this day, let us dedicate ourselves to PREM & SATYA, the rest will follow.     

 

          With Love & Best Wishes for a Happy Future,

 

                                 Yours sincerely,

                                        KN

                          

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto:humjanenge@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of AFROZ ALAM SAHIL
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 9:35 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: [HumJanenge] Gandhi@2012

 


Dear Friends!

 

Every Indian knows the name of Mahatma Gandhi and can identify him but only few are aware of his thoughts and teachings. This 2nd October 2012 will add another day of celebration in the name of the Mahatama. Full page posters and advertisements will be dedicated to him.

 

But can the advertisements serve the purpose which is increasingly defeated by its custodians? The past one and half year can be rightfully called the time of return of Gandhi and his Principles to the debates in the Indian public sphere. His posters filled the walls (including Facebook walls) of the India Against Corruption (IAC) movement. Even the Media gave us a new Gandhi in Anna. Never after independence did India saw and discussed Gandhi and his principles like it did in the scale in the past eighteen months.

But the question is that do we really know Gandhi? If Gandhi comes to 2012 what will he do? Will his principles and teachings stand the test of time? Can he bring the change what his so called followers and worshipers have mostly failed to bring? Nevertheless, Gandhi remains valid for many people in politics, community service, social harmony and personal ethics. Gandhi’s ideas on rural development, self sufficient villages, personal ethics in public life and inclusive policy making have recently been discussed more than ever before.

 

We request your thoughts and ideas about Gandhi@2012. Your opinion about Gandhi and experiences about Gandhism are welcome. Whatever may be your opinion, you can share that with us and we will share that with our readers.

 

We request your thoughts and ideas about Gandhi@2012. Your opinion about Gandhi and experiences about Gandhism are welcome. Whatever may be your opinion, you can share that with us and we will share that with our readers. Articles are welcome both in Hindi and English languages.

 

Please mail your views and thoughts at beyondheadlinesnews@gmail.com

 

 

Thanks & Regards

 

BH Team!!!

 

 

--

AFROZ ALAM 'SAHIL'
Editor (Investigation)

Mobile:-+91-9891322178

 

 

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[HumJanenge] CONFIDENTIAL: Gross delay in resolving my outstanding Public Grievances

To:
Mr. P.K.Mishra
Secretary, Dept of Personnel & Training

Date: Oct 2, 2012

Respected Sir

I am appending inline a series of emails to your junior officer
concerning the curious fact that 3 of my duly registered PUBLIC
GRIEVANCES are pending since 3rd May.2012 for resolution, and that
despite constant follow-up I have not received any communication
whatsoever concerning my grievances being resolved.

It is certainly a disgrace that the DoPT, which is meant to be the
standard bearer for good governance in the nation, is so lax and
unconcerned about the citizens who chose to approach for resolution of
their grievances through the front door of your Ministry's
Grievance Portal, under your stewardship are kept waiting in this fashion.

I can therefore now say publicly that you are a corrupt officer, that
your department is riddled with corruption, and that people such as
yourself are a blot on the nation's escutcheon.

Kindly take notice that you are a public servant, and that I am a member
of the public. You are required to serve me and all the other people of India.
The people of India are paying you to serve them and not the other way about.

So kindly do the needful.

Yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy

On 9/12/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> To:
> Mr. Manoj Joshi (JS-AT&A/DoPT)
> & Nodal Grievance Director /DoPT
>
> 12-Sept-2012
>
> Sir
>
> With reference to my email of 16.Aug.2012 appended inline below,
> I am constrained to again remind you that I have not received
> any response whatsoever to my 3 pending Public Grievances
> filed on 03.May.2012 concerning your Department.
>
> These are registered as nos. 352, 353 and 354 of 2012 respectively.
>
> I am additionally aggrieved that whereas the Public Grievances of
> other citizens preceding and following mine have been resolved
> expeditiously / promptly, my grievances have been kept hanging
> for over 4 months now without even a single interim reply being
> given to me as mandated.
>
> In passing I may observe that it is episodes like these which
> cause citizens of India to get disaffected against the State
> and which exemplify the complete lack of governance
> which prevails in the country today.
>
> yours faithfully
>
> Sarbajit Roy
> B-59 Defence Colony
> New Delhi 110024
>
> On 8/16/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To:
>> Mr. Manoj Joshi (JS-AT&A/DoPT)
>>
>> 16-August-2012
>>
>> CONFIDENTIAL
>>
>> Sir
>>
>> I refer to 3 of my pending Public Grievances filed on 03.May.2012
>> registered as DOPAT/E/2012/00352 , DOPAT/E/2012/00353 and
>> DOPAT/E/2012/00354.
>>
>> I have not received any intimation as to how these have been resolved.
>>
>> I refer to the D.O. No.G-13013/2006-PG dt. 05.05.2006 issued by the
>> Secretary of your own Ministry setting down the timeline (2 months)
>> for disposal of registered public grievances and ancillary matters.
>>
>> I would therefore request you to kindly call for the files in all the
>> above cases and resolve my grievances with the approval of the
>> Secretary/MoP.
>>
>> If I do not hear from you soon, I shall be left with no option but to
>> take my grievance to the Parliamentary Standing Committee(s) mentioned
>> in the aforesaid D.O. naming all officers concerned, in addition to
>> pursuing my vigilance options in these matters - especially if some
>> hasty, or half-baked or evasive reply is provided to me as was done
>> once by DoPT previously in a similarly delayed situation. If more time
>> is needed to properly resolve the matters, please inform me
>> accordingly and my cooperation is assured.
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> yours faithfully
>>
>> Sarbajit Roy
>> B-59 Defence Colony
>> New Delhi 110024
>>
>> Tel : 0931448069
>>
>

Monday, October 1, 2012

[HumJanenge] Gandhi@2012


Dear Friends!

 

Every Indian knows the name of Mahatma Gandhi and can identify him but only few are aware of his thoughts and teachings. This 2nd October 2012 will add another day of celebration in the name of the Mahatama. Full page posters and advertisements will be dedicated to him.

 

But can the advertisements serve the purpose which is increasingly defeated by its custodians? The past one and half year can be rightfully called the time of return of Gandhi and his Principles to the debates in the Indian public sphere. His posters filled the walls (including Facebook walls) of the India Against Corruption (IAC) movement. Even the Media gave us a new Gandhi in Anna. Never after independence did India saw and discussed Gandhi and his principles like it did in the scale in the past eighteen months.

But the question is that do we really know Gandhi? If Gandhi comes to 2012 what will he do? Will his principles and teachings stand the test of time? Can he bring the change what his so called followers and worshipers have mostly failed to bring? Nevertheless, Gandhi remains valid for many people in politics, community service, social harmony and personal ethics. Gandhi's ideas on rural development, self sufficient villages, personal ethics in public life and inclusive policy making have recently been discussed more than ever before.

 

We request your thoughts and ideas about Gandhi@2012. Your opinion about Gandhi and experiences about Gandhism are welcome. Whatever may be your opinion, you can share that with us and we will share that with our readers.

 

We request your thoughts and ideas about Gandhi@2012. Your opinion about Gandhi and experiences about Gandhism are welcome. Whatever may be your opinion, you can share that with us and we will share that with our readers. Articles are welcome both in Hindi and English languages.

 

Please mail your views and thoughts at beyondheadlinesnews@gmail.com

 

 

Thanks & Regards

 

BH Team!!!

 


--
AFROZ ALAM 'SAHIL'
Editor (Investigation)
Mobile:-+91-9891322178
 
 

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Sunday, September 30, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Sec 22 of RTI Act, 2005 about its overriding effect on other laws

The law of repugnancy will play its role. Article 254 of the constitution of India states about it. In my opinion when an applicant has two options first option is the law of either central law or state exists on the day and which is established prior to RTI Act  and second RTI Act I feel that the authorities should not compel to choose old law and reject information under RTI ACT but rejection of infromation is common and even courts(High Court ) are compelling to take info as per old law such compulsion is bad at law since Right to Know is a fundamental right under Article 19(1)(a) and RTI Act is enforced to give this right to all citizens the courts have ingnored many facts
those old laws are not familier to peoples, second there is no provision of appeal in case authority is failed to provide info third the procedure of obtaining is not published on in print format and is not easily available to common citizens in India The judgments of Delhi High Court and other Courts took the right under RTI Act by asking to info under the law where getting info is difficult job

viadya

--- On Mon, 1/10/12, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Sec 22 of RTI Act, 2005 about its overriding effect on other laws
To: "Surendera M. Bhanot" <bhanot1952@gmail.com>, "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, 1 October, 2012, 7:58 AM

Section 22 provides the over-riding of any "other law for the time
being in force".

Oct 12 is the more favourable date for RTI users not 21 June 2005 since more
laws will come into its scope to be over-ridden.

Obviously a law which came into force on 15 Oct 2005 will not be
over-ridden by RTI Act. These are standard / routine non-obtsante clauses
contained in many laws and nothing great should be read into them as
foolish RTI activists are wont to..

On 10/1/12, Surendera M. Bhanot <bhanot1952@gmail.com> wrote:
> *
> *
> Section 22 is as good represent the overriding effect as it was on 12
> October 2005. Its sentence formation does not say that it represent only
> one day i.e., 12 October 2005, why not 21 June 2005 or any other day.
>
> It is as relevant today as it was the act was enacted and as on it was came
> into force. Section 22 will remain relevant in its present form as long the
> RTI Act stays.
>
> Even the in para 77 of the WP(C) 210 of 2012 the Hon'ble Supreme Court has
> explained the relevancy of Section 22 of the RTI Act even today. Para 77 of
> the Judgement is reproduced below:
>
> *77.* Let us now examine some other pre-requisites of vital significance in
> the functioning of the Commission. In terms of Section 22 of this Act, the
> provisions of the Act are to be given effect to, notwithstanding anything
> inconsistent therewith contained in the Official Secrets Act, 1923 and any
> other law for the time being in force or in any instrument having effect by
> virtue of any law other than this Act. This Act is, therefore, to prevail
> over the specified Acts and even instruments. The same, however, is only to
> the extent of any inconsistency between the two. Thus, where the provisions
> of any other law can be applied harmoniously, without any conflict, the
> question of repugnancy would not arise.
>
>
> Section 22 is also reproduced below:
> *
>
> Act to have overriding effect*
> Section 22. The provisions of this Act shall have effect notwithstanding
> anything inconsistent therewith contained in the Official Secrets Act,
> 1923, and any other law for the time being in force or in any instrument
> having effect by virtue of any law other than this Act.
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If there is any portion of a preexisting law as on 12 Oct 2005 which
>> is inconsistent with providing information under RTI Act, then the
>> said law will not stand in the way of the applicant getting his
>> information.
>>
>> NB: It has to be first established that the applicant is otherwise
>> entitled to get info under RTI.
>>
>> On 9/30/12, NAVIN PANDYA <navinpandya1954@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello Friends,
>> >
>> > How the subject section is to be interpreted and applied?
>> >
>> > Registrar of Mumbai has refused to accept the above section.
>> >
>> > Kindly post your views immediately in public interest.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Navin Pandya
>> >
>> > --
>> > "CORRUPT AND UNACCOUNTABLE PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE THE GREATEST ENEMIES OF
>> THE
>> > SOCIETY."
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> *GREETINGS AND WARM REGARDS
>
> Surendera M. Bhanot*
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> Chandigarh
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> - Youth for Human Rights International - *YHRI
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> - Jt. Secretary, Amateur Judo Association of Chandigarh
> - Member, *SPACE <http://www.thespace.org.in>*- Society for Promotion and
> Conservation of Environment, Chandigarh
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>