Sunday, August 19, 2012

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Pendency in the Commission

Supreme Court has stayed fresh appoint of ICs at CIC till the disposal of a case before it on the appointment of legal person as IC.  In fact, this is making the matters worse and the stay should be vacated.  


From: Sanjeev Santoshi <sanjscot@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: Pendency in the Commission

Dear Mr Roy.

What you've  written to the CIC is mind boggling. I am forwarding your email to my cousin in India who is at the National Advisory Council, requesting the huge pendency at CIC is brought to notice of Chairperson UPA.

Sanjeev Santoshi
Glasgow (UK)




Re: [HumJanenge] Pendency in the Central Information Commission

Congratulation, Sarbjit ji for this mail. keep it up.  However, there seems to be a mistake when u mentions 29 working days in a month. 

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: s.mishra <s.mishra@nic.in>; satyananda mishra <satyanandamishra@hotmail.com>
Cc: humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 9:35 AM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Pendency in the Central Information Commission

To:
Shri Satyananda Mishra-ji
Chief Information Commissioner of India
Central Information Commission
August Kranti Bhawan
New Delhi

By EMAIL

18-Aug-2012

Respected Sir

On behalf of the members of the "Humjanenge" RTI mailing lists, having
13,971 subscribers, of which I am a Moderator, I am constrained to
report / suggest as follows, in the larger public interest.

Our members are AGGRIEVED that since April 2012 the Hon'ble Commission
has stopped the practice of reporting its monthly disposals and also
the pending backlog on "cic.gov.in" . It is pertinent that the last
disclosed statistics reveal that upwards of 3,000 fresh cases are
being received each month, the monthly disposal is allegedly about
2,000 cases, and the backlog of 25,000 cases would take at least 1
year to clear.

We are now caused to say that the monthly figures published so far are
spurious, fictitious and are not borne out by the number of decisions
independently published on the Commission's other website
"rti.india.gov.in".

To illustrate, the Commission's other website reveals that from
1-July-2012 till today decisions / orders for 2,783 matters have been
published. Our members at cost of great time and personal effort have
determined that about 1310 matters (47%) are either merely a)
transfers to a First Appellate Authority or b) determination that case
has been previously decided.

The net effective disposal rate works out to 1473 matters in 29
effective working days, ie a SHOCKING disposal of ONLY 50 decisions
per day for the Commission as a whole. On the average it appears that
each information Commissioner is only deciding 7 matters per day. At
this rate the pending backlog will take over 3 years to get cleared.

As it seems that none of the Information Commissioners at the present
time are qualified or knowledgeable in Statistical methods, we submit
that the Commission must dispose of at least 300 pending cases every
day if the present backlog has to be cleared within the next 12
months. This translates into about 35 cases each day per Information
Commissioner, including yourself.

Our members are also AGGRIEVED that whereas Information Commissioners
such as Ms. Sushma Singh are promptly disposing of Complaints within
10 days of receipt, other Commissioners, including yourself, take up
to a year to address them. The citizens ought not to be subject to
such arbitrary actions on part of the Commission especially since the
Commission's pro-active disclosure u/s 4(1)(b)(iv) of RTI Act is so
incomplete and evasive on this aspect.

Our members are further AGGRIEVED that whereas enlightened
Commissioners like Smt. Sushma Singh have readily grasped the concept
that Complaints u/s 18 are an EXTRA-ORDINARY remedy needing prompt and
PRIORITY action, the rest of the Commission still persists in equating
Appeals and Complaints as equivalent and according the same priority
to both.

Finally, our members are AGGRIEVED that Mr. Pankaj Shreyaskar, despite
being from the Indian Statistical Service has deliberately suppressed
and manipulated the statistics of disposals by the Hon'ble Commission
to bring about this sorry state of affairs.

We therefore suggest that this email be placed before the Commission
at its next meeting and you exercise your powers under Section 12(4)
of the Act to direct that each Commissioner must endeavour to dispose
of at least 25 cases each day from here on so that some semblance of
sanity is maintained. We also suggest that Mr. Pankaj Shreyaskar be
transferred out and another Statistical Services officer be deputed in
his place.

with best wishes

Sarbajit Roy
New Delhi


Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE

Dear All

In order to implement the directions of Hon'ble Supreme Court in WP(C) 310 of 1996, titled Prakash Singh Vs Union of India, it is decided by Ministry of Home Affairs vide letter no. 14040/127/2010-UTP dated 17-11-2011 to extend the role & responsibility of Public Grievances Commission of Delhi to attend to public complaints relating to Delhi Police as directed by SC.

 Delhi Govt has amended the resolution no-4/14/94-AR dated 25-9-1997 so as to cover/ attend to public complaints against Delhi Police by Resolution No. F.12/04/2011/AR/1630 dated 27-2-2012 A copy of the same can be had from Administrative Reforms Department of Delhi Govt.

One can complaint against Delhi Police personnel to 
The Secretary
Police Complaints Authority/
Public Grievances Commission
Govt. of NCT of Delhi,
M-Block, Vikas Bhawan, I. P. Estate, New Delhi-110110
Tel No. 011-23379900, 01 Fax-011-23370903

Email : pgcdelhi@nic.in 



 Best Wishes
      
   JAI HIND   
 Lalit Mohan Sharma 
 


From: KN VENUGOPAL <gandhigiri2007@yahoo.co.in>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2012 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE

hi
 
commissioner of police is ok
 
dont talk of PM and the president
 
you still watch TV dont you of Rs.100000000000000000000000000000000000000 crores
the PM is sitting on
 
GANDHIGIRI
--- On Sat, 18/8/12, shri bhagwan <shrib0144@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: shri bhagwan <shrib0144@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, 18 August, 2012, 10:49 PM

Dear All,
Why doesn't the sufferer/aggrieved party write to the Commissioner  of Police Delhi by name and cc to the President, Honest
PM and all the Service Chiefs. Please do it and do it fast. Or else keep lamenting for the life and keep suffering.
Sincerely
Lt Col (Retd) Shri Bhagwan

From: pavan jain <j_peekay@yahoo.co.in>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE
Dear All
Calling Policeman is like calling Decoits to yuor house. 
Previously these cops had a bit of respect for uniform but that is absolutely gone now.
Commander P K Jain --- On Sat, 18/8/12, VINOD KHARE <vinodkhare@vsnl.com> wrote:

From: VINOD KHARE <vinodkhare@vsnl.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 18 August, 2012, 5:41 AM

This incident needs to be reported to the Chief Minister Delhi, Commissioner of Police Delhi and the Union Home Minister. Then RTI should be invoked for Action Taken Report(ATR).
Lt Col (Veteran) VC Khare
On 17-08-2012, Mahesh Khera wrote:
--- Lt Col \28Retd\29 VC Khare B-406 Ram Vihar Sector 30, Noida 201303 \28Uttar Pradesh\29 Mob 9312807120, 9810114095 Phone +91-120-2456116
Dear Friends,

Please peruse the trailing mail, a real incident in the heart of posh area in Delhi. We can just imagine what must be happening in other areas. 

How can RTI be used to nail corruption in police duties who are paid from our hard money ?

With warm regards,

Col Mahesh Khera
Fwd as recd:


NO WONDER THEY DON'T WANT JAN LOK PAL

A true story of Army Officer Victimized by Corrupt Policemen--that too In Delhi -National Capital!! You May Be Next!!! Be prepared

If you ever get into an accident NEVER DIAL THE POLICE!!or be prepared for THIS!! 

Yesterday, my wife met with an accident outside Taj Palace Hotel on SP Marg at about 2 pm. She was trying to save a motorbike who suddenly took a wrong U turn where barricades have been put up on the road leading to Army Battle Honours Mess. 

She saved the mobike but as she suddenly halted, a Tata 407 hit her car from behind. The financial damage is another story! I was in office in Greater Noida when she called. 

She said the mobike chap was trying to run away and if that had happened she would have no evidence. 

So after two three desperate calls to me from her, much against my previous experience and wisdom, I decided to call the police and dialed 100. The cops reached around the same time as I did in about 45 mins. 

I had also called an old friend Col Manjit Singh Niranjan, and he fetched up from Gurgaon almost at the same time. We started explaining to the PCR what had happened and found to our surprise that the PCR had whisked away the mobike driver and his wife to RML Hospital. 

We learnt later that the police took the opportunity at the hospital to tutor him to say that he was driving along SP Marg in the same direction as my wife towards Dhaula Kuan (and not taken a wrong U turn as actually happened), and that she hit him from behind! 

At the site, the Inspector and ASI piled onto my wife and tried to tell her it was her fault. The Tata 407 chap kept saying it was the motorbike chaps fault, but they kept ignoring him. Then they said let's go to the Police Station and took my wife's documents. 
As we moved in our cars, we came across the police behind SP Marg flats. 
They had stopped the Tata 407 driver and were talking with him. This was the point when I realized something was brewing. We learnt later that they were threatening him again to say that it was my wife's fault. 

We were asked to proceed to Chankyapuri Police Stn and waited for around three hours. 

Meanwhile, my wife had the good sense to take the mobike driver's No and I called him. 

He turned out to be a jawan from 284 Med Regt and when I identified myself, he said " Sahab, main police ke lafde meing nahin padna chahta. Maine galti ki hai, lekin yeh PCR wale mujhe galat statement dene ke liye bahka rahe hain. Kahte hain tujhe bhi gadi wale se paise dila denge, tu bas unke khilaf statement de de, baki ham sambhal lenge" 

I quickly realized the racket. The Police had understood that the car owner was the right target to extract money from, seeing my wife's financial status. They were accordingly working on a plan to stage manage the witnesses! 

I went out of the Police Station and called the OR. I told him I do not want to press any further charges and that we would sign a razinama. 

He agreed and after another hour arrived at the PS. 

The Police took us to a room and started saying that " Yeh to mamla kachehri mein jayega. Halaat kuch clear nahin lag rahe. Madam kuch kah rahi hain aur mobike driver kuch aur" 

And turning to the OR said - "haan bhai bol". Before he could say anything I said we have reached an understanding and neither party wants to press any charges. 

Hearing this the Insp was taken aback! 
His entire well planned strategy had gone down the drain. He asked the mobike driver that he was sure and not under any duress, still hoping that he could make his buck, but the OR was determined. 
So he made a long face and got us to sign the razinama. 

Now he turned onto the Tata 407 chap and said "iska chalan karo, yehi baar baar bol raha tha motorcycle wale ki galti hai." On this I said we are not withdrawing our statement, we still say it is the mobike person's fault, but we don't want to press any charges. The Tata 407 driver is speaking the truth and you can't penalize him for that." 

The Insp said you people leave, we will let him also go. but I stood my ground and waited till they handed over his papers to him. 

I had to see that justice is done for a man who speaks the truth! So we all walked out of the PS out of the clutches of the Delhi Police at 6,30 pm - after 4 hours of harassment. 

My wife is suffering from shock - not so much from the accident as the Delhi Police's deviousness ! 

She says she had only heard stories but having experienced it first hand, she has lost complete faith in the Delhi Police! 

Thank God the other party was a fauji, otherwise we were done for. He offered to pay me for the damage but I told him I'm not going to take money from a fauji bhai. 

Moral of the Story - Never Dial 100. If an accident happens, resolve it amongst yourselves amicably. The Police does not intervene (unless there has been a loss of life) till you call them (even if they're at the scene). 

I hope none of you ever face this situation. Be prepared for this game plan of our corrupt devious cops & stump them in advance!!! 







 


[HumJanenge] NE Violence - Nations Can Also be Made or Unmade through Telecom Media and Technology (TMT)

Dear Friends,
Telecom, Media and Technology (TMT) while doing things beyond imagination has also its pitfalls with very serious and grave consequences. While constructive deployment of TMT is a foregone conclusion as ITU has summed up that every 10 % of broadband penetration enhances the GDP growth by 1.38 %, the destructive use of TMT with disastrous consequences has just been witnessed in NE violence. If TV reports are anything to go by, how easily a handful of cyber rogues in Pak put TMT to such a destructive use that they have been able to create a havoc in India with more than 70 deaths. Huge emerging economy with one fifth of the population of the world has been brought to knees by a few handful rogues. It is time our leaders first understood the nuances of TMT. For this to happen, the political class needs to be well educated.  
While the nation has well structured set up to deal with physical attacks, we terribly lack the same to deal with calamities caused by virtual attacks. There is a need to learn lessons from Google, Microsoft, You Tube, Face Book, Apple etc of the world. You Tube has successfully demonstrated with TMT that if any one wants to upload any audio which is not authorized and copied, it will simply refuse. It also has the capability to know who is uploading and can alert the copy right holder that so and so at such and such time and date tried to upload the copied audio and pass all indelible proofs to the rightful owner. The owner with all proofs can take the culprit to court and seek justice any where in the world. Such is the prowess which these super tech companies have developed. Our approach to such safeguards is appalling.    
On 01 Aug 2012, when a suggestion was made during a meeting of FICCI that we should recommend to the government to enable the service providers to have similar technologies in place just like You Tube example above so that any objectionable content can be nipped in the bud before it escalates and allowed only after a bona fide neutral committee can screen the same, the overwhelming response of industry luminaries attending the meeting was negative. Very unfortunately, we hear on 19 Aug that Pakistan has fomented this cyber trouble for us resulting in a loss of precious human lives. The gains to Pakistan have been realized by them almost free of any damage to themselves.
Ministries of ICT and I&B which manage TMT need to sharpen themselves and strengthen the hands of MHA and MOD. We have seen how lack of coordination among multiple agencies within one ministry itself has caused havoc time after time and we have not been able to do any thing constructive on that front. Here, we are talking about four ministries. This is highly a serious matter threatening the unity and integrity of the country and demands a nimble footed out of the box thinking and political will to put in place an overall set up and infrastructure to give comfort to the citizens that they are living in safe India. Any delay or inaction in this is only at our own peril. Organizing debates on TV is good but action is more important. TV anchors might like to ask those responsible such questions also.     
Jai Hind.   
With warm regards,

Col Mahesh Khera

Founder KTMT, India

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Re: [HumJanenge] Re:: From ADIL at Times ZigWheels re: RRR & DON'T CALL THE POLICE

Adil ji good to hear from you. We too were keen on asking Sarabjit ji the same. Then we jst thanked the stars that he is not a judge in this or else all three would have had it. On the other hand we do need ppl who say straight.

On Aug 17, 2012 4:28 PM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Adil

1) Here's the link to the RRR
www.india.gov.in/allimpfrms/allrules/291.pdf

a) The motorcycle driver (with female pillion rider) was in
contravention of Rule 12 (U-turns)
b) The lady (Army Officer's wife) was in contravention of Rule 23. ie.
keeping a safe distance in case vehicle in front comes to stop or
sudden slowdown.
c) Ditto for the Tata 407 driver.

Knowing the road / location in question at the time - both the cars
were over-speeding and the motor cycle rider was confused.because the
U-turn into Army Battle Honors Mess had been blocked / made one way.

What nobody is saying is that there are long queues to get into the
Taj Mahal and Maurya Sheraton hotels because of the security checks of
incoming motor vehicles which always occupy (ie. encroach) 1 lane (out
of 2) of that road.

Sarbajit

On 8/17/12, Adil Jal Darukhanawala <adiljal@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Adil Jal Darukhanawala
> <adiljal@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Mr. Sarabjit Roy,
>>
>> I have been on this group on corruption and RTI but this is the first
>> time
>> I have picked pen to put to paper, or rather hit the keyboard to get in.
>>
>> I am the editor-in-chief of ZigWheels, the automotive arm of the Times of
>> India Group. I was earlier the founder editor of Overdrive magazine from
>> September 1998 to April 2005 and as you might have guessed, your latest
>> comment is both interesting and intriguing.
>>
>> You did mention that under the RRR (Rules of the Road Regulations), all
>> the drivers involved in this instance ought to have been prosecuted. I
>> want
>> to be educated on this front as that we could deliver an above board and
>> factual comment on the situation so that many cannot just go hammer and
>> tongs over such an issue. However, on the face of it, without siding with
>> the army colonel, his wife, the motorcycle rider or the truckwallah, we
>> have had many accounts of police being the biggest law breakers on this
>> sort of a scale. I think it behoves their while to lay into people who do
>> not have the time to make endless visits to police stations, courts and
>> such and therefore any facilitation money is always there to be made! I
>> think this case is in line with what that UP minister (Shivlal Yadav, I
>> think is his name) mentioned a week or so ago - work a bit and make
>> yourself eligible to steal a bit! In this particular case it was first
>> harass and then steal!
>>
>> I do not want to get into this morass which affects us all greatly right
>> now but my simple request, is if you do have the time to please bring me
>> up
>> to speed on the RRR and its implementation in this case. I could use my
>> medium to spread it in a simple yet effective manner all across the
>> country.
>>
>> Thanking you in anticipation and all the best in your ongoing crusade on
>> RTI and so many other fronts.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> *ADIL JAL DARUKHANAWALA*
>> Editor-in-chief,
>> *ZigWheels,
>> TIMES OF INDIA GROUP,*
>> Times House, 3rd Floor,
>> Fergusson College Road,
>> Pune 411 004.
>> *I N D I A .*
>> Mobile: +91-98235-34638
>> Tel: +91-20-30112373
>> Fax: +91-20-30112390
>> Email: adiljal.darukhanawala@timesgroup.com / adiljal@gmail.com
>> Web: http://www.zigwheels.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:22 PM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Knowledge of "Rules of the Road Regulations" ("RRR") is mandatory to
>>> obtain a driving licence.
>>>
>>> As per the trailing email - each and everyone of the drivers involved
>>> was in the wrong and ought to have been prosecuted under RRR.
>>>
>>> On Aug 17, 11:34 am, Shailesh <svk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > sahab, abhi to aapke upar Delhi Police ka defamation case bhi chal
>>> sakta hai!!!!!!!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > hamare system ke mutabik agar police staiton ne dakhal nahi di to aap
>>> DCP office, then Joint CP, then Commissioner, then Home Affairs Ministry
>>> then Local Court, then District Court, then High Court and last Supreme
>>> Court bhi approach kar sakte ho na mere bhai........
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> >  From: Mahesh Khera <mkkh...@yahoo.com>
>>> > To: Humjanenge <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>>> > Sent: Friday, 17 August 2012 8:15 AM
>>> > Subject: [HumJanenge] Fw: DON'T CALL THE POLICE
>>> >
>>> > Dear Friends,
>>> >
>>> > Please peruse the trailing mail, a real incident in the heart of posh
>>> area in Delhi. We can just imagine what must be happening in other
>>> areas.
>>> >
>>> > How can RTI be used to nail corruption in police duties who are paid
>>> from our hard money ?
>>> >
>>> > With warm regards,
>>> >
>>> > Col Mahesh Khera
>>> >
>>> > Fwd as recd:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >NO WONDER THEY DON'T WANT JAN LOK PAL
>>> >
>>> > >>A true story of Army Officer Victimized by Corrupt Policemen--that
>>> too In Delhi -National Capital!! You May Be Next!!! Be prepared
>>> >
>>> > >>If you ever get into an accident NEVER DIAL THE POLICE!!or be
>>> prepared for THIS!!
>>> >
>>> > >>Yesterday, my wife met with an accident outside Taj Palace Hotel on
>>> SP Marg at about 2 pm. She was trying to save a motorbike who suddenly
>>> took
>>> a wrong U turn where barricades have been put up on the road leading to
>>> Army Battle Honours Mess.
>>> >
>>> > >>She saved the mobike but as she suddenly halted, a Tata 407 hit her
>>> car from behind. The financial damage is another story! I was in office
>>> in
>>> Greater Noida when she called.
>>> >
>>> > >>She said the mobike chap was trying to run away and if that had
>>> happened she would have no evidence.
>>> >
>>> > >>So after two three desperate calls to me from her, much against my
>>> previous experience and wisdom, I decided to call the police and dialed
>>> 100. The cops reached around the same time as I did in about 45 mins.
>>> >
>>> > >>I had also called an old friend Col Manjit Singh Niranjan, and he
>>> fetched up from Gurgaon almost at the same time. We started explaining
>>> to
>>> the PCR what had happened and found to our surprise that the PCR had
>>> whisked away the mobike driver and his wife to RML Hospital.
>>> >
>>> > >>We learnt later that the police took the opportunity at the hospital
>>> to tutor him to say that he was driving along SP Marg in the same
>>> direction
>>> as my wife towards Dhaula Kuan (and not taken a wrong U turn as actually
>>> happened), and that she hit him from behind!
>>> >
>>> > >>At the site, the Inspector and ASI piled onto my wife and tried to
>>> tell her it was her fault. The Tata 407 chap kept saying it was the
>>> motorbike chaps fault, but they kept ignoring him. Then they said let's
>>> go
>>> to the Police Station and took my wife's documents.
>>> > >>As we moved in our cars, we came across the police behind SP Marg
>>> flats.
>>> > >>They had stopped the Tata 407 driver and were talking with him. This
>>> was the point when I realized something was brewing. We learnt later
>>> that
>>> they were threatening him again to say that it was my wife's fault.
>>> >
>>> > >>We were asked to proceed to Chankyapuri Police Stn and waited for
>>> around three hours.
>>> >
>>> > >>Meanwhile, my wife had the good sense to take the mobike driver's No
>>> and I called him.
>>> >
>>> > >>He turned out to be a jawan from 284 Med Regt and when I identified
>>> myself, he said " Sahab, main police ke lafde meing nahin padna chahta.
>>> Maine galti ki hai, lekin yeh PCR wale mujhe galat statement dene ke
>>> liye
>>> bahka rahe hain. Kahte hain tujhe bhi gadi wale se paise dila denge, tu
>>> bas
>>> unke khilaf statement de de, baki ham sambhal lenge"
>>> >
>>> > >>I quickly realized the racket. The Police had understood that the
>>> > >> car
>>> owner was the right target to extract money from, seeing my wife's
>>> financial status. They were accordingly working on a plan to stage
>>> manage
>>> the witnesses!
>>> >
>>> > >>I went out of the Police Station and called the OR. I told him I do
>>> not want to press any further charges and that we would sign a razinama.
>>> >
>>> > >>He agreed and after another hour arrived at the PS.
>>> >
>>> > >>The Police took us to a room and started saying that " Yeh to mamla
>>> kachehri mein jayega. Halaat kuch clear nahin lag rahe. Madam kuch kah
>>> rahi
>>> hain aur mobike driver kuch aur"
>>> >
>>> > >>And turning to the OR said - "haan bhai bol". Before he could say
>>> anything I said we have reached an understanding and neither party wants
>>> to
>>> press any charges.
>>> >
>>> > >>Hearing this the Insp was taken aback!
>>> > >>His entire well planned strategy had gone down the drain. He asked
>>> the mobike driver that he was sure and not under any duress, still
>>> hoping
>>> that he could make his buck, but the OR was determined.
>>> > >>So he made a long face and got us to sign the razinama.
>>> >
>>> > >>Now he turned onto the Tata 407 chap and said "iska chalan karo,
>>> > >> yehi
>>> baar baar bol raha tha motorcycle wale ki galti hai." On this I said we
>>> are
>>> not withdrawing our statement, we still say it is the mobike person's
>>> fault, but we don't want to press any charges. The Tata 407 driver is
>>> speaking the truth and you can't penalize him for that."
>>> >
>>> > >>The Insp said you people leave, we will let him also go. but I stood
>>> my ground and waited till they handed over his papers to him.
>>> >
>>> > >>I had to see that justice is done for a man who speaks the truth! So
>>> we all walked out of the PS out of the clutches of the Delhi Police at
>>> 6,30
>>> pm - after 4 hours of harassment.
>>> >
>>> > >>My wife is suffering from shock - not so much from the accident as
>>> the Delhi Police's deviousness !
>>> >
>>> > >>She says she had only heard stories but having experienced it first
>>> hand, she has lost complete faith in the Delhi Police!
>>> >
>>> > >>Thank God the other party was a fauji, otherwise we were done for.
>>> > >> He
>>> offered to pay me for the damage but I told him I'm not going to take
>>> money
>>> from a fauji bhai.
>>> >
>>> > >>Moral of the Story - Never Dial 100. If an accident happens, resolve
>>> it amongst yourselves amicably. The Police does not intervene (unless
>>> there
>>> has been a loss of life) till you call them (even if they're at the
>>> scene).
>>> >
>>> > >>I hope none of you ever face this situation. Be prepared for this
>>> game plan of our corrupt devious cops & stump them in advance!!!
>>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] notice issued on section 6(3)

Can we have the Plaint
N vikramsimha , KRIA Katte , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.


--- On Sun, 19/8/12, Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Sandeep gupta <drsandgupta@gmail.com>
> Subject: [HumJanenge] notice issued on section 6(3)
> To: "humjanenge" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, 19 August, 2012, 7:33 AM
> I had challenged the definition of
> section 6(3) made by personnel
> department based on which SIC punjab ordered that transfer
> to only one
> public authority can be made under section 6(3). The high
> court after
> hearing the arguments has issued notice to State of Punjab,
> Ministry
> of Personnel and Training and to the SIC Punjab. the next
> hearing is
> on October 15 2012. the case number is cwp 15719 of 2012
> The following grounds have been made:
> general clauses act
> power of ministry of personnel and training
> section 30 of the rti act
>
> --
> Dr. Sandeep Kumar Gupta
> 1722, Sector 14, Hisar-125001, INDIA
> Phone: 91-99929-31181
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: Pendency in the Commission

Nehruvian Congress is determined to make IC nail-less. This is one of the ways to make IC ineffective.



From: Sanjeev Santoshi <sanjscot@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2012 5:01 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: Pendency in the Commission

Dear Mr Roy.

What you've  written to the CIC is mind boggling. I am forwarding your email to my cousin in India who is at the National Advisory Council, requesting the huge pendency at CIC is brought to notice of Chairperson UPA.

Sanjeev Santoshi
Glasgow (UK)