Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Some CIC decisions in its meetings...

On 12/21/11, Mr. Hemant Kshirsagar <hemantkshirsagar01@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Sir,
>
> Instead of showing, how smart we are and how foolish the public is, let us
> know what we can do together?
>
> Mr. Sarbarjit, let us promote some activity which can help us to stay in
> the india as true sons of the soil.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mr. Hemant
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Karira
>>
>> It seems the citizens are least interested in such petty matters.
>>
>> RTI is dead ! Long live the Citizens Charter Act. !!!! .... and so on
>> to the JLP Bill.
>>
>> Its no longer amusing to observe how the foolish citizens get
>> hoodwinked time and time with such diversionary antics. Its more
>> amusing to see how little is divulged in the CIC's MoM
>>
>> PS: This group has now attained just the level of posting we want -
>> about 100 posts per month. Keep it up.
>>
>> Sarbaijt
>>
>> On 12/20/11, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes08112011.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes13122011.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > 1. CIC wants to streamline the process of hearing second appeals /
>> > complaints from senior citizens or physically challenged persons out of
>> > turn. The current system is not working and a second appeal had to be
>> filed
>> > with the CIC on this issue.
>> > Please
>> > see:
>> http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_WB_A_2010_000965-SM_M_65985.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> > In the next meeting the issue was decided and from now on all priority
>> cases
>> > which are heard out of turn, the reason for taking up such cases out of
>> turn
>> > will be listed in the order itself.
>> >
>> > 2. CIC wants to come out with a Draft Citizen Charter. Secretary of CIC
>> > suggested to wait till the current discussion of inclusion of Citizens
>> > Charter (to be included) under Lokpal is decided. Nevertheless staff
>> > have
>> > been asked to examine Citizen Charter prepared by IC SG in detail.
>> >
>> > 3. The CIC and ICs want to visit other countries where FoIA and RTI have
>> > good implementation like - USA, New Zealand and Scandinavian countries.
>> At
>> > least 4 ICs will make the trip this current financial year.
>> >
>> >
>> > RTIwanted
>
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>

Re: [HumJanenge] Some CIC decisions in its meetings...

Hello Sir,

Instead of showing, how smart we are and how foolish the public is, let us know what we can do together?

Mr. Sarbarjit, let us promote some activity which can help us to stay in the india as true sons of the soil.

Regards,

Mr. Hemant 


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Karira

It seems the citizens are least interested in such petty matters.

RTI is dead ! Long live the Citizens Charter Act. !!!! .... and so on
to the JLP Bill.

Its no longer amusing to observe how the foolish citizens get
hoodwinked time and time with such diversionary antics. Its more
amusing to see how little is divulged in the CIC's MoM

PS: This group has now attained just the level of posting we want -
about 100 posts per month. Keep it up.

Sarbaijt

On 12/20/11, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes08112011.pdf
>
>
> http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes13122011.pdf
>
>
> 1. CIC wants to streamline the process of hearing second appeals /
> complaints from senior citizens or physically challenged persons out of
> turn. The current system is not working and a second appeal had to be filed
> with the CIC on this issue.
> Please
> see: http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_WB_A_2010_000965-SM_M_65985.pdf
>
>
> In the next meeting the issue was decided and from now on all priority cases
> which are heard out of turn, the reason for taking up such cases out of turn
> will be listed in the order itself.
>
> 2. CIC wants to come out with a Draft Citizen Charter. Secretary of CIC
> suggested to wait till the current discussion of inclusion of Citizens
> Charter (to be included) under Lokpal is decided. Nevertheless staff have
> been asked to examine Citizen Charter prepared by IC SG in detail.
>
> 3. The CIC and ICs want to visit other countries where FoIA and RTI have
> good implementation like - USA, New Zealand and Scandinavian countries. At
> least 4 ICs will make the trip this current financial year.
>
>
> RTIwanted

Support free thinking, Support Linux

Re: [HumJanenge] Some CIC decisions in its meetings...

Dear Karira

It seems the citizens are least interested in such petty matters.

RTI is dead ! Long live the Citizens Charter Act. !!!! .... and so on
to the JLP Bill.

Its no longer amusing to observe how the foolish citizens get
hoodwinked time and time with such diversionary antics. Its more
amusing to see how little is divulged in the CIC's MoM

PS: This group has now attained just the level of posting we want -
about 100 posts per month. Keep it up.

Sarbaijt

On 12/20/11, C K Jam <rtiwanted@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes08112011.pdf
>
>
> http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes13122011.pdf
>
>
> 1. CIC wants to streamline the process of hearing second appeals /
> complaints from senior citizens or physically challenged persons out of
> turn. The current system is not working and a second appeal had to be filed
> with the CIC on this issue.
> Please
> see: http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_WB_A_2010_000965-SM_M_65985.pdf
>
>
> In the next meeting the issue was decided and from now on all priority cases
> which are heard out of turn, the reason for taking up such cases out of turn
> will be listed in the order itself.
>
> 2. CIC wants to come out with a Draft Citizen Charter. Secretary of CIC
> suggested to wait till the current discussion of inclusion of Citizens
> Charter (to be included) under Lokpal is decided. Nevertheless staff have
> been asked to examine Citizen Charter prepared by IC SG in detail.
>
> 3. The CIC and ICs want to visit other countries where FoIA and RTI have
> good implementation like - USA, New Zealand and Scandinavian countries. At
> least 4 ICs will make the trip this current financial year.
>
>
> RTIwanted

Tuesday, December 20, 2011

[HumJanenge] Some CIC decisions in its meetings...

http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes08112011.pdf

http://cic.gov.in/CIC-Minutes/Minutes13122011.pdf

1. CIC wants to streamline the process of hearing second appeals / complaints from senior citizens or physically challenged persons out of turn. The current system is not working and a second appeal had to be filed with the CIC on this issue.
Please see: http://www.rti.india.gov.in/cic_decisions/CIC_WB_A_2010_000965-SM_M_65985.pdf

In the next meeting the issue was decided and from now on all priority cases which are heard out of turn, the reason for taking up such cases out of turn will be listed in the order itself.

2. CIC wants to come out with a Draft Citizen Charter. Secretary of CIC suggested to wait till the current discussion of inclusion of Citizens Charter (to be included) under Lokpal is decided. Nevertheless staff have been asked to examine Citizen Charter prepared by IC SG in detail.

3. The CIC and ICs want to visit other countries where FoIA and RTI have good implementation like - USA, New Zealand and Scandinavian countries. At least 4 ICs will make the trip this current financial year. 

RTIwanted

[HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order disclosure of information under Sec 18

Hi Robby

Visit
https://groups.google.com/group/HumJanenge/browse_thread/thread/b65bed30b3b425b4

Goto the very first post in this thread (by C.K.Jam)
Download the file from the last line in that post

Sarbajit

On Dec 20, 4:45 pm, robby sharma <sharmaro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sir I have not received the Supreme Court Judgment regarding Section-18 please send to me
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:36:57 +0530
> From: mk...@yahoo.co.in
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order disclosure of information under Sec 18
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com

RE: [HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order disclosure of information under Sec 18

Sir I have not received the Supreme Court Judgment regarding Section-18 please send to me 


Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:36:57 +0530
From: mkppm@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order disclosure of information under Sec 18
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com


Sunday, December 18, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] HC notice to Centre on vacant IC posts at CIC

In Gujarat such a PIL was filed by late Amit Jethwa and in less than 4 months two additional ICs were appointed in Mar 2010. Now also senior citizen NGO has filed such PIL for appointment of 6 ICs as pendency has crossed 8000. Chief IC is recently appointed and one more IC is likely to take charge shortly, sine Chief IC has retired in July 2011 and one IC has also retired in 2011. Govts. understand only legal language that too from Higher Judiciary.
 


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From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] HC notice to Centre on vacant IC posts at CIC

Thanks for the Mail & information about High Court Order on PIL for filling up vacancies of Information Commissioners at the Centre. We are considering to file a PIL in respect of Information Commissioners in U.P; we may even challenge some appointments already made in violation of Section 12(5) of RTI  Act. I request you to keep us updated on the Delhi High Court case. In particular we wish to have a copy of the PIL if you can provide.
 
            With renewed thanks,
                          KN
 
 
 
 
 
From the Desk of :
Justice Kamleshwar Nath
Retd.
:
Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ),
Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ),
Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )
Address
:
`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh , India
Phone(s)
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+91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746
 

From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of M.K. Gupta
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:26 PM
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: [HumJanenge] HC notice to Centre on vacant IC posts at CIC
 
HC notice to Centre on vacant IC posts at CIC

New Delhi : The Delhi High Court on Wednesday issued notice to the Centre on a PIL seeking filling up of vacant posts of Information Commissioners at the Central Information Commission as it has led to massive backlog of cases filed under the transparency law.

A bench of Acting Chief Justice A K Sikri and Justice Rajiv Sahai Endlaw asked the Centre to file its response, detailing the status of appointment process and fixed the matter for further hearing on February 15.

The court's notice was issued on the PIL filed by RTI activists R K Jain and Amit Shanker, alleging that no action has been taken on the issue despite two "distress" letters written by the Central Information Commissioner to the Prime Minister 's Office (PMO).

The PIL, filed through lawyers Prashant Bhushan and Pranav Sachdeva, sought filling of posts of Information Commissioners (ICs) and subordinate staff including Secretarial Staff within time-bound frame.

It also said, "There should not be gap between retirement and appointment of Information Commissioner. Further, there should be some time line for disposal of complaints and appeal by the Information Commissioners."

The panel, which was earlier having one CIC and nine ICs, has at present "five vacant posts of ICs", it said, adding "At present more than 20,000 appeals and complaints are pending before the Central Information Commission for disposal and with the growing awareness among public more and more matters are piling up before the CIC.

"Direct the Centre to prepare a list of candidates for the posts of ICs in transparent manner on the basis of rational criteria from diverse backgrounds as envisaged under the Right to Information Act... and put the list before the high-powered selection committee."
 
Courtesy- Shri Krishna Rao.