Re: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Col Aggarwal

1) Occasionally honest government officers (usually regulatory officers) have confided in me concerning corrupt actions in their organisations / departments. As a skilled honest public spirited citizens I have ensured that their faith in me was not misplaced.

2) I have stopped dabbling in telecom matters now. My last few actions in that field were as follows

a) Getting Pramod Mahajan to resign form Union Cabinet.
b) Getting RCOM fined about Rs. 3,000 crores, Airtel and Essar a few hundred crores each for licence violations etc.
c) Exposing a Cable TV Set Top Box scam to the tune of about Rs. 600 crores.

Coincidentally - and this is really coincidence - nothing to do with politics --- All the above actions were against BJP / NDA - purely because of the timing.

Hope this helps you.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 7:18 PM, satnarayan aggarwal <colagarwal17@rediffmail.com> wrote:

Mr Sarbjit & Friends,

One wonders if the state of present government is YET TO
PROVED.It is corrupt-NO , it is CRIMINAL-- abuse of position BY OFFICIALS, REGULATOR, MINISTER AND pm.

hOW & wHY, READ THE ATTACHMENTS.

mR sARBJIT SEEMS TO BE very close to GOVERNMENT & CONGRSS.

He will do great SERVICE if he could manage a DEBATE ON TELECOM LOOT
as requested im my OPEN letter to PM.

Regards.

Col S N Aggarweal-Veteran
Telecom Consultant & Consumer Activist

[HumJanenge] Interesting CIC order under "life or liberty" clause and mercy petitions

Attached is an interesting and well argued order from the CIC relating to information sought about mercy petitions of the trio accused in the Rajiv Gandhi assassination.

The CIC ruled:

(i) Mercy Petitions:

He shall provide the copies of the Mercy petitions not only by the

three persons themselves but by others on their behalf which have

been taken into consideration from time to time.

(ii) File notings:

He shall disclose the copies of the file notings not forming part of

the ministerial advice to the President of India after severing all the

names and other references regarding the identities of the public

servants regarding those file notings and making those

correspondence.

(iii) Correspondence:

He shall also disclose the copies of the correspondence made from

time to time in connection with the mercy petitions except those,

which in his opinion should not be disclosed being exempt in terms

of Section 8(1)(a) of the RTI Act. If he decides to withhold some of

the correspondence, he shall pass a speaking order. Needless to say,

the Complainant will be free to approach the Appellate Authority if

he is not satisfied with the decision of the CPIO.

Interesting to note that as per the copy uploaded on CIC website, the order has been authenticated by Additional Registrar (Law). Normally orders of CIC S. Mishra are authenticated by the Designated Officer and Asst. Registrar Mr Vijay Bhalla. Wonder why ?

RTIwanted

Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Sarbjit,

For what purpose, knowledge is earned? For what end, wisdom is used?
and for what goals a man shall live?

I hope you understand that information is power. and for god sake come
to the truth that this is not a debate.

You are not needed to prove a point. This is war (in minds) and
everyone has to chose his side. This group is still in
democracy(difference in opinions) and let me tell you there will never
be a day you make truth win.

Sadly, I find that truth has little or no takers. I do not know you.
Who you are? and what you want to do, but it pains me seeing you
daggers drawn against ignorance. But then count your years dear friend
and behold the impact calculation and precision makes on mind of
people. You are no match for CIA or any such agency and certainly you
can not know everything. Appreciate what arvind has done and if
possible decipher the design of his work. If you get the code to
break, I am with you as none has been.

On 9/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Col JP
>
> India / Delhi is a nest of foreign agents and touts for all nations.
>
> Dr. Subramaniam Swamy on the webiste of his National Political Party has
> alleged Ms. Sonia Gandhi (or whatever her real name is) to be a a KGB agent.
> Why has the Govt not prosecuted that woman ?
>
> You know as well as I do that posing rhetorical questions does not lead the
> debate anywhere. The fact is that Arvind Kejriwal has received massive TAX
> FREE funds from foreign sources which he has openly used to
>
> a) Procure information from Government files on things like lists of
> disgruntled All India Service officers (This is surely of tremndous use to
> foreign intelligence networks).
>
> b) Bribe (and I use the term judicuously) serving and former public
> servants., etc.
>
> And he has done all this while continuing to be a public servant.
>
> If you (or anyone else on this list) are truly a patriot, kindly ensure that
> the Govt takes action against him under Official Secrets Act and hangs him.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, jaiprakash narain
> <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>wrote:
>
>> If what ever u say is true why govt is not taking any action against him
>> for being a foreign agent etc.U mean that govt is also a party to it n
>> they
>> both r fooling the nation all the way or u r fooling the nation by
>> spreading
>> such rumours?
>>
>

Re: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Mr Sarbjit & Friends,

One wonders if the state of present government is YET TO
PROVED.It is corrupt-NO , it is CRIMINAL-- abuse of position BY OFFICIALS, REGULATOR, MINISTER AND pm.

hOW & wHY, READ THE ATTACHMENTS.

mR sARBJIT SEEMS TO BE very close to GOVERNMENT & CONGRSS.

He will do great SERVICE if he could manage a DEBATE ON TELECOM LOOT
as requested im my OPEN letter to PM.

Regards.

Col S N Aggarweal-Veteran
Telecom Consultant & Consumer Activist







On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:21:32 +0530 wrote
>Dear Sh Sarbajit,
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From: Sarbajit Roy
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2011 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Col Khera

I am truly shocked by your email.

1) With all this black money problem in the
country, are you condoning that IRS officers should go on leave for extended periods and thereby block their replacements.


2) Arvind Kejriwal is a foreign financed intelligence operative with huge amounts of money at his disposal and gives lakhs of rupees as prizes. Why should we contribute to pay his IT demands ?

3) What exactly has Arvind done for the RTI cause which is so extraordinary ?


PS: Kindly stop using RSS code words on this group - we are apolitical here

Sarbajit

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Mahesh Khera wrote:


Dear Friends,
In another Group, a mail is in circulation that we should contribute to generate money so that Arvind Kejriwal can pay up the money to the IT dept.

My view is that let Prashant Bhushan legally fight the case as his entitlements for his two years of leave of absence without pay should be counted towards the pay back in lieu of his resignation after three years of study leave.

In the mean while, if Supreme Court accepts the plea, it is a victory for all those who might be affected by the vague Govt orders. If, however, Supreme Court rejects then lets all contribute as is being suggested by Santosh MS and enable him to pay to the Govt as every law
abiding citizen must follow the rules and regulations.
Arvind Kejriwal has contributed immensely to RTI and now for a strong Lok Pal. Most of India supports him in his tireless and selfless efforts. The contribution is not to help him monetarily but would only be a rebut to the Govt if indeed the state is victimizing him just because he has been digging his heals against them for anti corruption laws. Such a move has a potential for babus to show spine to the political leaders and not accept any wrong orders. This move alone would have a huge impact on the self reforms in babudom much more than all the Lok Pals.By this, I do not mean that Jan Lok Pal would not be necessary.

This is a food for thought.
Jai Hind and Vande Matram.With warm regards,
Col Mahesh Khera







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RE: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Mr USM Bish,
 
It is not the incometax which is being demanded but the cost of Two years Study Leave since as he did not complete 3 years physical service after study leave as required vide the Bond filled by him before going on study leave. If in between he went on unpaid leave that cant be counted towards the physical service of 3 years after the study leave. Income Tax was the department where he was working and so it is not income tax due as understood by you.
Every body can make a mistake. It Anna Team will be right in all cases and others will be  wrong always.

Col Ashok Bhanot

> Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 22:40:05 +0530
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice
> From: usmbish@gmail.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 1) Arvind Kejrwal is still an IRS officer. The reasons why
> > his resignation has not been accepted is very well known.
> > Each and every year the govt (IT dept) updates the list of
> > their employees (as required under section 4 of RTI Act).
> > The URL is here and Arvind's name is on it
> > [www.irsofficersonline.gov.in/content/Alphabetical_Index.pdf]
> >
>
> There are two issues here:
>
> a) Administrative: If a resignation has been given, and it has
> not been accepted for whatever reasons, the issue needs to be
> dealt administratively, depending upon prevailing policies of
> the Department. What has the IT Deptt doing for the last 5
> years ? Why are they raking up this issue now ? And why are
> departmental issues being placed as headlines ? Surely there
> are some other ulterior motives ...
>
> b) Financial: Tax is applicable if payment has been made. Has
> the Govt been paying him regularly for all these years? If
> yes, the IT claim is very much in order. But if not, no IT
> accrues. There can be no taxes under situations where there is
> no income.
>
> Why mix the two things ?
>
> >
> > 2) My question is what steps has Arvind taken to get his
> > name deleted from this list ? Let him place these facts into
> > the public domain.
> >
>
> This is departmental administrative issue. Why should the aam-
> janta be concerned, beyond what he has already put up in all
> major newspapers and his TV interview ?
>
> >
> > 3) About his being a foreign financed inteligence agent,
> > there have been many posts on this in the archives of this
> > group and RTI_India where specifics have been given.. The
> > Magsaysay awards are well known to be CIA sponsorship. The
> > Ashoka awards are from MI6.
> >
>
> I would not make much credence on posts on general public
> mailing lists. Magasaysay awards are from Phillipines. All
> personal assets of President Ramon Magsaysay are with the
> Rockfeller Foundation. The prize was established in April 1957
> by the trustees of the Rockefeller Foundation Fund based
> in New York City with the concurrence of the Philippine
> government. This is official. I do not know any CIA
> connections here. The citation I put reference to is from the
> wikipedia.
>
> >
> > 4) Aruna Roy, Arvindf Kejriwal, Anna Hazare etc had hardly
> > anything to do with RTI Act This is all their self generated
> > media publicity which ill informed idiots like you keep
> > repeating / circulating as the truth. The fact is that the
> > RTI Act 2005 was drafted by Mr A.N. Tiwari and his team at
> > DoPT with quite a bit of input from me and my co-mods like
> > Mr Ashish Kumar - and was also based on the shortcomings of
> > the HD Shourie draft and the FOI Act.
> >
>
> Please distinguish two things:
>
> a) Public Action : Bringing public awareness/ and building
> public pressures on the Govt to act.
>
> b) Paper work : Drafting of the Act.
>
> The contributions of those stated by me are for the former
> action only. I can personally confirm the agitations taken by
> Anna Hazare at Pune and Mumbai for the Maharashtra RTI Act,
> last decade, having physically seen them. This public action
> forced the Maharashtra Govt to Act. I would believe, this
> action would be more difficult, and more important than
> drafting the Act itself. In this regards their contributions
> are minimal, restricted to a "wish-list" in layman's terms. I
> would place less credits there. To the best of my knowledge,
> the RTI Act 2005 is based on the preceding Maharashtra RTI
> Act.
>
> On a serious note: Requested, I may please be unsubscribed
> from the "HumJanenge" mailing list. The kind of exchanges, and
> language contained by some of the participants, (virtually
> going onto personal vilification) does not gel with educated
> gentry anywhere. I would like to leave.
>
> Dr USM Bish
> Bangalore

[HumJanenge] Employer Notice to Arvind Kejriwal & NOT I-Tax Notice.

What Kejriwal said to have received is a Notice from an Employer to Employee. It is not Income Tax Department Notice to Citizen to pay dues. Crook will not put that Notice in Public Domain.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:16 IST Subhash Shanbhag wrote:

>http://www.scribd.com/doc/63800112/Arvind-Kejriwal-s-Reply
>This explanation is very clear
>subhash
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>>From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
>>To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2011 5:45 PM
>>Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice
>>
>>
>>Dear Col Khera
>>
>>I am truly shocked by your email.
>>
>>1)  With all this black money problem in the country, are you condoning that IRS officers should go on leave for extended periods and thereby block their replacements.
>>
>>2) Arvind Kejriwal is a foreign financed intelligence operative with huge amounts of money at his disposal and gives lakhs of rupees as prizes. Why should we contribute to pay his IT demands ?
>>
>>3) What exactly has Arvind done for the RTI cause which is so extraordinary ?
>>
>>PS: Kindly stop using RSS code words on this group - we are apolitical here
>>
>>Sarbajit
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Dear Friends,
>>>
>>>
>>>In another Group, a mail is in circulation that we should contribute to generate money so that Arvind Kejriwal can pay up the money to the IT dept.
>>>
>>>
>>>My view is that let Prashant Bhushan legally fight the case as his entitlements for his two years of leave of absence without pay should be counted towards the pay back in lieu of his resignation after three years of study leave. 
>>>
>>>
>>>In the mean while, if Supreme Court accepts the plea, it is a victory for all those who might be affected by the vague Govt orders. If, however, Supreme Court rejects then lets all contribute as is being suggested by Santosh MS and enable him to pay to the Govt as every law abiding citizen must follow the rules and regulations. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Arvind Kejriwal has contributed immensely to RTI and now for a strong Lok Pal. Most of India supports him in his tireless and selfless efforts. The contribution is not to help him monetarily but would only be a rebut to the Govt if indeed the state is victimizing him just because he has been digging his heals against them for anti corruption laws. Such a move has a potential for babus to show spine to the political leaders and not accept any wrong orders. This move alone would have a huge impact on the self reforms in babudom much more than all the Lok Pals.By this, I do not mean that Jan Lok Pal would not be necessary. 
>>>
>>>
>>>This is a food for thought.
>>>
>>>
>>>Jai Hind and Vande Matram.
>>> 
>>>With warm regards,
>>>
>>>Col Mahesh Khera
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [HumJanenge] Arvind Kejriwal - IT Notice

Dear Col JP

India / Delhi is a nest of foreign agents and touts for all nations.

Dr. Subramaniam Swamy on the webiste of his National Political Party has alleged Ms. Sonia Gandhi (or whatever her real name is) to be a a KGB agent. Why has the Govt not prosecuted that woman ?

You know as well as I do that posing rhetorical questions does not lead the debate anywhere. The fact is that Arvind Kejriwal has received massive TAX FREE funds from foreign sources which he has openly used to

a) Procure information from Government files on things like lists of disgruntled All India Service officers (This is surely of tremndous use to foreign intelligence networks).

b) Bribe (and I use the term judicuously) serving and former public servants., etc.

And he has done all this while continuing to be a public servant.

If you (or anyone else on this list) are truly a patriot, kindly ensure that the Govt takes action against him under Official Secrets Act and hangs him.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

If what ever u say is true why govt is not taking any action against him for being a foreign agent etc.U mean that govt is also a party to it n they both r fooling the nation all the way or u r fooling the nation by spreading such rumours?