Sunday, February 6, 2011

[HumJanenge] Re: My Grievance concerning the non-disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC

To:
The National Advisor Council,
by, the Secretary

07-February,2011

Kind Attn: Dr. Rita Sharma

Dear Madam

I am given to understand that my email below has not been received by your office.

Further to my said email, I am shocked to learn that Ms. Aruna Roy has again invited all her old cronies from the NCPRI (National Campaign for Peoples Right to Information) to the NAC to meet DoPT officials concerning draft RTI Rules proposed for amendment.

I am unable to see from website of NAC the powers Ms Roy possesses to behave in this arbitrary and high handed fashion at public expense, so as to shut out all RTI stakeholders who possess a contrary views to her. I have repeatedly asked for a complete section 4  RTI disclosure by NAC on the website. Such disclosure will prevent Ms Roy from functioning in this fashion.

I have also come to know that at a similar meeting of this Working group on 13.Dec.2010 my own work was discussed and plagiarised by NAC and\or Ms. Aruna Roy and passed off to DoPT as her own work.

Yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy


On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
To:
The National Advisory Council, by
the Joint Secretary

03-Feb-2011

Dear Mr Raju,
cc: Ms. Rita Sharma/Secy/NAC for directions
 
Many thanks for your email in reply,

Kindly note the correct spelling of my name as was given in my referred email as "Sarbajit Roy" for future correspondence.

I beg to state that my grievance was clearly stated to be in the context of "constitution, functions, duties and procedures etc for the National Advisory Council." (all to be declared under RTI suo-moto)  As per the documents published on NAC website so far concerning the constitution of NAC, specifically the Cabinet Secretariat orders of 31.May.2004 and 29.March.2010, it appears to me that the present NAC ("NAC-2") is constituted "in pursuance of" the order of 31.May.2004 for the 2 purposes specified therein. The first purpose being for NCMP and the second for providing inputs / support on Govt policy and legislative business respectively.

I was therefore surprised to see from the initial Minutes of Meeting of NAC-2 that the members have arrogated to themselves powers inconsistent with the objectives for which NAC-2 was constituted on 29.May.2010 as specified in the CabSec order. Instead they have broadly referred to unspecified portions of a speech of her Excellency Madam President to Parliament as being the focus/vision of the NAC. It is not clear to me how the NAC is legally empowered to set its own agenda, and I seek clarity from you on this aspect. As it was very well known on 29.May.2010 that UPA-II does not have a NCMP, this could have been clarified in the CabSec order of even date itself by specifying "flagship programmes of Govt" for NCMP..

As a citizen of India, who is being invited by NAC-2 to participate  in processes such as submitting comments and objections to proposed legislations like Food Security Bill, Communal Violence Bill etc being drafted by NAC-2, it is mandatory for NAC-2 to completely inform me of the "constitution, functions, duties and procedures etc for the National Advisory Council". The information on the NAC-2 website is incomplete, half-baked and evasive. No reasonable person can meaningfully participate under conditions of such information denial. This information evasion further confirms the words of the Hon'ble Prime Minister I had set out, viz. that NAC-2 is the instrument for Congress Party activists to participate in Government. The necessary converse is that persons not associated with Congress Party have no place in NAC-2's scheme of things and shall be subjected to information asymmetry and discrimination .

Accordingly, I clearly call upon you to inform me immediately the underlying basis (ie. Govt documents)  for the following claims in the VISION on NAC website, so that I may submit my comments on NAC's various time bound public processes referred above. I am especially interested in the source of powers of NAC and their delegation to and exercise by NAC, its officers, Chairperson  and members (such as I had described for Ms. Aruna Roy).

1) "NAC has been set up as an interface with Civil Society."

2) "The NAC would also give attention to the priorities stated in the address of the President of India to Parliament on 4 June, 2009."

3) "In addition, the NAC would review the flagship programmes of the Government and suggest measures to address any constraints in their implementation and delivery."

Looking forward to your prompt reply.

Yours faithfully

Sarbajit Roy
New Delhi


On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Office NAC <office.nac@nac.nic.in> wrote:

Dear S. Roy,

 

 

                        This has reference to your email addressed to Secretary, NAC dated 1.2.2011 bearing the subject "My Grievance concerning the non disclosure of the National Common Minimum Programme on the website of the NAC".

 

                        With reference to the grievance you have referred to in your email, I would like to inform you that NAC's vision statement does not refer to National Common Minimum Programme as there is no National Common Minimum Programme for UPA-II

 

 

                        This is for your information.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

Sd/ 

(K. Raju)

Joint Secretary

 

Shri Sarabjit Ray



Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

Dear Shashi Kumar ji,

 

I request to send an appropriate letter to the CIC cititing all legal provisions in that with a copy of the same to me/ to this  blog so that I may also send the same.

 

I am going to challenge a decision of the CIC (Mrs. Annapurna Dixit, IC) given in 2008/09 and if the record is destroyed, How the CIC will be able to submit copies of my appeal and submissions before the High Court?  Mere copy of the decision will not suffice though I have original records of the documents originated from my side and received from the Public Authority but CIC may plead that it cannot bouch them in the absence of its own record. 

 

The limitation period for the Court is 3 years and thus I can challenge the decision by 2011/12.

 

Regards.
--- On Sun, 6/2/11, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:


From: SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 6 February, 2011, 11:21 PM

RTI ACT IS ALSO APPLICAPABLE TO CIC , CIC IS FORGOTTEN THIS , IT CANOT DESTROY THE FILES AS IF IT WANTS , THE CIC SHALL MAINTAIN THE RECORDS AS PER CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OFFICES PUBLIC RECORDS ACT , FOR EXPAMPLE THE COURTS ARE PRESERVING THE CASE RECORDS AS PERMANENT SUCH AS PLAINT , WRTITEN STATEMENT , ORDER SHEET , JUDGEMENT AND DECREE , IMPORTANT EXIBITS OF THE CASES WILL BE PRESERVED AS PERMANENT RECORDS IN ORIGINAL SUITS 

ARS KUMAR. B.E. LLB MA JOURNALISM 
SOCIAL ACTIVIST , KARNATAKA 

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, GOPAL PRASAD <gopal.eshakti@gmail.com> wrote:
It is wrong. We will fight for this illegal decision by CIC. CIC is
not the decision making nor ammendment authority of this Act because
the RTI Act 2005 is the Act of Parliament. It is most necessary to
aware about this decision amongst general public and RTI activists
especially.

Gopal Prasad (RTI Activist)
House No. 210, Street No. 3,
Pal Mohalla, Mandawali
Delhi - 110092
Mob: 09540650860


2011/2/5, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>:
> It is short-sightness to presume that if a case is solved, the decision has
> became redundant.  Because of this fact, the decisions are being uploaded on
> the website as the  same decision will be applicable on the cases with
> similar facts and complaints.  Same will also be useful for CPIO/ Public
> Authorities as well as to the public.
>
> Mr. Kamal Shah, I inform you that some decisions taken early, as I pointed
> out in my earlier emails, are not available on the website or say have been
> removed/ deleted.
>
> The argument that a single fire can vanish this decision.  If we buy this
> argument, there is no need to maintain any records in any office.  This may
> also urge some vicarious minded person to ignate fire to get rid the
> records.  In income tax, we have seen fire in many years and that has caused
> loss of unimaginable amount to the govt. exchequre by way of being not
> able to follow tax  demands and cases in the court and IT tribunal.
>
> I am going to write to CCIC for re-loading the removed and deletged
> decisions again on the CIC website.   If required, can also file an RTI
> appln raising query about the identify of the officials on whose orders old
> decision were removed from the website and some allied queries.  If some
> other members also undertake such an exercise, issue will carry more weight
> and seriousness.
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 2:00 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to
> sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire .
> The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website .
>
> Regards,
>
> Kamal Shah
> --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for
> 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
> To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy
> <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Roy,
>
> Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the
> satisfaction of the appellant?
>
> I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me
> information within 10 days
> but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to
> DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also.
> The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr.
> Wajahat Habibullah and his successor
> Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order
> of 31st March, 2009?
>
> Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing
> has been fixed. There is no hope for next
> 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?
>
> There seems to be all round confusion.
>
> Hari Goyal
> 31.01.2011
>
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
>> months
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>
>> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be
>> destroyed.
>>
>> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).
>>
>> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>
>
>
>
>


[rti4empowerment] 3-day Mass Awareness Campaign on Right to Information Act 2005

Do circulate in your e-group
Bhaskar Prabhu
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
Mumbai.
 
"3–DAY MASS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN  ON RTI ACT 2005" NOW AT ANDHERI (EAST)
 
Having had successful Mass Awareness Campaigns and being committed to on-going Awareness programs , MAHITI ADHIKAR MANCH is again organising its "Mass Awareness Campaign of RTI ACT 2005" at the premises of a Public Authority with its 3-day Campaign at MCGM's  K-EAST WARD OFFICE BUILDING from 8th  to 10th  February 2011 from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m which will be inaugurated by Shri Sudhir Naik, DMC Zone III.
 
At this campaign, persons visiting the Ward will be made aware of the RTI Act 2005 and the possibilities of using the same to address issues that they have as individuals as well as resident groups.
 
We invite you to be present for the inauguration and launching on 8th February 2011 at 9.45 a.m in the K/East Ward Office at K/East Ward Office building, Azad Road, Gundavali, Andheri (East) Mumbai 400069.  
Your presence will definitely encourage us to take this movement towards Transparency forward.
 
We would appreciate if you or any representatives of your organisation could volunteer  some time on any of the above days of the campaign for which we will be thankful. You may inform us at the earliest your willingness and the date and time that you/your representative will be there.
 
Yours in RTI service
For & on behalf of volunteers of
Mahiti Adhikar Manch
 
Bhaskar Prabhu
Convenor

Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6 months

RTI ACT IS ALSO APPLICAPABLE TO CIC , CIC IS FORGOTTEN THIS , IT CANOT DESTROY THE FILES AS IF IT WANTS , THE CIC SHALL MAINTAIN THE RECORDS AS PER CENTRAL GOVERNMENT OFFICES PUBLIC RECORDS ACT , FOR EXPAMPLE THE COURTS ARE PRESERVING THE CASE RECORDS AS PERMANENT SUCH AS PLAINT , WRTITEN STATEMENT , ORDER SHEET , JUDGEMENT AND DECREE , IMPORTANT EXIBITS OF THE CASES WILL BE PRESERVED AS PERMANENT RECORDS IN ORIGINAL SUITS 

ARS KUMAR. B.E. LLB MA JOURNALISM 
SOCIAL ACTIVIST , KARNATAKA 

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM, GOPAL PRASAD <gopal.eshakti@gmail.com> wrote:
It is wrong. We will fight for this illegal decision by CIC. CIC is
not the decision making nor ammendment authority of this Act because
the RTI Act 2005 is the Act of Parliament. It is most necessary to
aware about this decision amongst general public and RTI activists
especially.

Gopal Prasad (RTI Activist)
House No. 210, Street No. 3,
Pal Mohalla, Mandawali
Delhi - 110092
Mob: 09540650860


2011/2/5, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>:
> It is short-sightness to presume that if a case is solved, the decision has
> became redundant.  Because of this fact, the decisions are being uploaded on
> the website as the  same decision will be applicable on the cases with
> similar facts and complaints.  Same will also be useful for CPIO/ Public
> Authorities as well as to the public.
>
> Mr. Kamal Shah, I inform you that some decisions taken early, as I pointed
> out in my earlier emails, are not available on the website or say have been
> removed/ deleted.
>
> The argument that a single fire can vanish this decision.  If we buy this
> argument, there is no need to maintain any records in any office.  This may
> also urge some vicarious minded person to ignate fire to get rid the
> records.  In income tax, we have seen fire in many years and that has caused
> loss of unimaginable amount to the govt. exchequre by way of being not
> able to follow tax  demands and cases in the court and IT tribunal.
>
> I am going to write to CCIC for re-loading the removed and deletged
> decisions again on the CIC website.   If required, can also file an RTI
> appln raising query about the identify of the officials on whose orders old
> decision were removed from the website and some allied queries.  If some
> other members also undertake such an exercise, issue will carry more weight
> and seriousness.
>
> --- On Sat, 5/2/11, Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kamal Shah <kshah623@yahoo.co.in>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 2:00 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's perfectly ok once the decision is given by the CIC there is no need to
> sit on a paper jungle which can vanish with a single flame of fire .
> The  signed Orders should atleast be archived on the CIC website .
>
> Regards,
>
> Kamal Shah
> --- On Mon, 31/1/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, 31 January, 2011, 4:58 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The RTI superseed each act.  Then as per RTI, the record must preserve for
> 20 years.  How the circular is leagl issued by CIC?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Hari Goyal <haridgoyal@hotmail.com>
> To: Vishal Kudchadkar <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>; Sarbajit Roy
> <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 4:16:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
> months
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Roy,
>
> Is this decision relates to those cases which stand solved to the
> satisfaction of the appellant?
>
> I have case decided by Mr. Sharma on 31.03.2009 and asked DDA to supply me
> information within 10 days
> but so far information has not been supplied by the DDA despite writing to
> DDA vice-Chairman and hairman also.
> The matter was simultanously taken up to Chief Information Commissioner Mr.
> Wajahat Habibullah and his successor
> Mr. A. N. Tiwari besides Mr. Sharma. What will be the fate of this CIC order
> of 31st March, 2009?
>
> Another case was filed by me on about FIVE Nmonths back. No date of hearing
> has been fixed. There is no hope for next
> 2-3 months of its hearing. What will be the fate of this case also?
>
> There seems to be all round confusion.
>
> Hari Goyal
> 31.01.2011
>
>> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:00:57 +0530
>> Subject: [HumJanenge] CIC to weed out (DESTROY) all case files after 6
>> months
>> From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
>> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>>
>> The CIC has decided that all case files older than 6 months shall be
>> destroyed.
>>
>> (Source: Minutes of meeting dated 04.Jan.2011).
>>
>> Brought to you in public interest by your favourite moderator.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release



Dr. NIRAJ KUMAR
C-4/8, RIVER BANK COLONY
LUCKNOW - 226018
INDIA
Mob.: +91+9415787095

--- On Sun, 6/2/11, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends a very heartning gesture on the part of Gandhian Satyagraha  Brigade to postpone their fast upto death and join the "Fight against Corruption" movement. We expect that this postponment will be sword hanging on the government to implement the demands raised.
Regards
From: Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Cc: justicekn@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, 6 February, 2011, 7:08 PM

Thanks Justice Kamleshwar Nath Ji
            Gandhian Satyagraha  Brigade participating in programme
relating  to important issues like that at Delhi has been well
conceived & must be appreciated by all.
            Regards
            Dr JN Sharma
               ADVOCATE/ HUMANRIGHTS/RTI ACTIVIST

On 2/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Message is fwded to HJ as per request of Justice Nath
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM
> Subject: FW: Press Release
>
> Dear All,
>
> This 'Forwarded' Mail tells about the of events of FAST-UNTO-DEATH on
> 30.1.2011 by mentioned Satyagrahis of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade.
>
> To Sri Roy, it is in continuation of an earlier E-mail sent by me to him
> just a few minutes ago.
>
>        Regards,
>              KN
>
> From the Desk of :
>
> Justice Kamleshwar Nath
> Retd.
> : Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahbad ),
>  Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahbad )
> Address
> :
> `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
> GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE
> An All India NGO of Gandhian Persuasion, Registered Under the
> Societies Registration Act, 1860
> LAJPAT BHAWAN, LAJPAT NAGAR-IV,
> NEW DELHI - 110 024
>
>               February 3, 2011
>                                                 PRESS RELEASE
>
> Our five Satyagrahis, namely Sh. Shambu Duttji (93) & Ms R.S. Devi
> (84), Gandhians, who participated in 1942 Quit India movement and were
> imprisoned, and Sh. Murari Lal (90), Sh. Amarnath (89) and Sh E James
> Rajasekaran started their Fast-unto-Death on 30th of Jan. at
> Jantarmantar to demand (i) Appointment of an effective Lokpal,
> repeatedly committed by major political parties, (ii) Disqualification
> of the candidates seeking election to Parliament and State
> Legislatures against whom serious criminal cases are pending (as
> recommended by four Chief Election Commissioners) and (iii)
> Confiscation of illegally acquired property of public servants
> including Ministers, MPs and MLAs & their benami transactions. Through
> out the day, hundreds of people from all walks of life and from
> different parts of the country visited them. Sh Shambu Duttji and
> other Gandhians were requested the whole day for interviews from
> number of journalists and admirers. Renowned journalist Shri Kuldeep
> Nayar also visited Gandhians to extend his wholehearted support for
> the cause.
>
> We are coordinating with 'India Against Corruption' in this crusade
> and the undersigned attended its meetings. Sh Arvind Kejriwal had
> asked us to request the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast which
> started from Jan. 30th since it clashed with their rally to which we
> had expressed our reservation and told them that Satyagrahis' resolve
> would in fact support their cause. Justice Sachar had a talk with
> Swami Agnivesh who told me that he along with Kiran Bedi, Arvind
> Kejriwal, Father Dominique, Teachers from Art of Living, Acharya from
> Baba Ramdev Sect and many others would come to pay respect to these
> Satyagrahis. He further informed that they planned to request
> Satyagrahis to end their fast unto death since they all had resolved
> to pursue the demand for Lokpal Bill with full force and public
> support. In view of this development, I consulted all the members of
> the working committee present at Jantarmantar (namely, Dr. Y.P. Anand,
> Justice Rajindar Sachar, Shri R. Srinivasan, Shri B.R. Lall, Shri R.K.
> Khandelwal, Shri Bhagvanji Raiyani, Prof Jagdeep Chhokar, Dr S K
> Agarwal, Col. Karan Kharb and Shri P.S. Bawa) to know their views
> about our proposed stand in case we were confronted with the situation
> where all the above said persons along with hundreds of their
> supporters made a request to Satyagrahis to break their
> Fast-unto-Death. Every one thought that it would be extremely arrogant
> if we don't agree with their request and for better support to the
> cause it was definitely much wiser to put a joint front with the other
> organisations pursuing the same cause. One member had a different
> opinion but he too was quite concerned about the health of the
> Satyagrahis. Advocate Prashant Bhushan and Justice Tewatia also came
> to Jantarmantar to pay respect to Satyagrahis and they also requested
> them to end their fast.  At about 6 pm on Jan. 30, all the above said
> persons along with their supporters came to Jantarmantar and made a
> passionate plea to the Satyagrahis to end their fast. Swami Agnivesh
> told the gathering that since they all had taken up the cause to
> demand an effective Lokpal Bill, the Satyagrahis therefore should not
> continue their fast. Kiran Bedi also made a passionate and forceful
> plea to Shri Shambhu Dutta Ji by saying, ' I am sitting at your feet
> and will not get up till you end your fast'. Shri Shambu Dutt ji
> explained to the gathering how we had been fighting for an effective
> Lokpal and other two demands for the last so many years. He further
> explained the background in which they were forced to undertake the
> extreme step. The undersigned then informed the decision of the
> Working Committee and others to the Satyagrahis to postpone their
> fast. Justice Sachar, other members of the Working Committee, namely
> Dr. Y P Anand Vice Chairman, Dr. SK Agarwal, Sh  PS Bawa and Col
> Kharab also personally requested fasting Satyagrahis to postpone the
> fast. Shri Shambu Dutta Ji then informed the gathering that because of
> his love and respect for Swami Agnivesh, Kiran Bedi and others, he
> would postpone the Fast-unto-Death for three months and hoped that
> they would do their best to force the government to present an
> effective Lokpal Bill at the earliest. Hundreds of people from all
> walks of life clapped and welcomed this decision. Swami Agnivesh and
> Kiran Bedi then offered  biscuits to the Satyagrahis to break their
> fast. The undersigned thanked all for their support and commitment for
> the cause and the gathering dispersed with lot of jubilations. The
> month long Sataygraha that started on 1st of Jan 2011 with relay
> hunger strike finished at Jantarmantar with a firm resolve to carry
> forward the struggle with more zeal and gusto. The next morning the
> undersigned briefed the GSSB Chairman Justice Kamleshwar Nath who
> appreciated and approved the proceedings held on 30th Jan.
> Ashok Arora
> Hony General Secretary, GSSB
>

Re: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

Thanks Justice Kamleshwar Nath Ji
Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade participating in programme
relating to important issues like that at Delhi has been well
conceived & must be appreciated by all.
Regards
Dr JN Sharma
ADVOCATE/ HUMANRIGHTS/RTI ACTIVIST

On 2/4/11, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
> Message is fwded to HJ as per request of Justice Nath
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM
> Subject: FW: Press Release
>
> Dear All,
>
> This 'Forwarded' Mail tells about the of events of FAST-UNTO-DEATH on
> 30.1.2011 by mentioned Satyagrahis of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade.
>
> To Sri Roy, it is in continuation of an earlier E-mail sent by me to him
> just a few minutes ago.
>
> Regards,
> KN
>
> From the Desk of :
>
> Justice Kamleshwar Nath
> Retd.
> : Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahbad ),
> Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahbad )
> Address
> :
> `Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh, India
> GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE
> An All India NGO of Gandhian Persuasion, Registered Under the
> Societies Registration Act, 1860
> LAJPAT BHAWAN, LAJPAT NAGAR-IV,
> NEW DELHI - 110 024
>
> February 3, 2011
> PRESS RELEASE
>
> Our five Satyagrahis, namely Sh. Shambu Duttji (93) & Ms R.S. Devi
> (84), Gandhians, who participated in 1942 Quit India movement and were
> imprisoned, and Sh. Murari Lal (90), Sh. Amarnath (89) and Sh E James
> Rajasekaran started their Fast-unto-Death on 30th of Jan. at
> Jantarmantar to demand (i) Appointment of an effective Lokpal,
> repeatedly committed by major political parties, (ii) Disqualification
> of the candidates seeking election to Parliament and State
> Legislatures against whom serious criminal cases are pending (as
> recommended by four Chief Election Commissioners) and (iii)
> Confiscation of illegally acquired property of public servants
> including Ministers, MPs and MLAs & their benami transactions. Through
> out the day, hundreds of people from all walks of life and from
> different parts of the country visited them. Sh Shambu Duttji and
> other Gandhians were requested the whole day for interviews from
> number of journalists and admirers. Renowned journalist Shri Kuldeep
> Nayar also visited Gandhians to extend his wholehearted support for
> the cause.
>
> We are coordinating with 'India Against Corruption' in this crusade
> and the undersigned attended its meetings. Sh Arvind Kejriwal had
> asked us to request the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast which
> started from Jan. 30th since it clashed with their rally to which we
> had expressed our reservation and told them that Satyagrahis' resolve
> would in fact support their cause. Justice Sachar had a talk with
> Swami Agnivesh who told me that he along with Kiran Bedi, Arvind
> Kejriwal, Father Dominique, Teachers from Art of Living, Acharya from
> Baba Ramdev Sect and many others would come to pay respect to these
> Satyagrahis. He further informed that they planned to request
> Satyagrahis to end their fast unto death since they all had resolved
> to pursue the demand for Lokpal Bill with full force and public
> support. In view of this development, I consulted all the members of
> the working committee present at Jantarmantar (namely, Dr. Y.P. Anand,
> Justice Rajindar Sachar, Shri R. Srinivasan, Shri B.R. Lall, Shri R.K.
> Khandelwal, Shri Bhagvanji Raiyani, Prof Jagdeep Chhokar, Dr S K
> Agarwal, Col. Karan Kharb and Shri P.S. Bawa) to know their views
> about our proposed stand in case we were confronted with the situation
> where all the above said persons along with hundreds of their
> supporters made a request to Satyagrahis to break their
> Fast-unto-Death. Every one thought that it would be extremely arrogant
> if we don't agree with their request and for better support to the
> cause it was definitely much wiser to put a joint front with the other
> organisations pursuing the same cause. One member had a different
> opinion but he too was quite concerned about the health of the
> Satyagrahis. Advocate Prashant Bhushan and Justice Tewatia also came
> to Jantarmantar to pay respect to Satyagrahis and they also requested
> them to end their fast. At about 6 pm on Jan. 30, all the above said
> persons along with their supporters came to Jantarmantar and made a
> passionate plea to the Satyagrahis to end their fast. Swami Agnivesh
> told the gathering that since they all had taken up the cause to
> demand an effective Lokpal Bill, the Satyagrahis therefore should not
> continue their fast. Kiran Bedi also made a passionate and forceful
> plea to Shri Shambhu Dutta Ji by saying, ' I am sitting at your feet
> and will not get up till you end your fast'. Shri Shambu Dutt ji
> explained to the gathering how we had been fighting for an effective
> Lokpal and other two demands for the last so many years. He further
> explained the background in which they were forced to undertake the
> extreme step. The undersigned then informed the decision of the
> Working Committee and others to the Satyagrahis to postpone their
> fast. Justice Sachar, other members of the Working Committee, namely
> Dr. Y P Anand Vice Chairman, Dr. SK Agarwal, Sh PS Bawa and Col
> Kharab also personally requested fasting Satyagrahis to postpone the
> fast. Shri Shambu Dutta Ji then informed the gathering that because of
> his love and respect for Swami Agnivesh, Kiran Bedi and others, he
> would postpone the Fast-unto-Death for three months and hoped that
> they would do their best to force the government to present an
> effective Lokpal Bill at the earliest. Hundreds of people from all
> walks of life clapped and welcomed this decision. Swami Agnivesh and
> Kiran Bedi then offered biscuits to the Satyagrahis to break their
> fast. The undersigned thanked all for their support and commitment for
> the cause and the gathering dispersed with lot of jubilations. The
> month long Sataygraha that started on 1st of Jan 2011 with relay
> hunger strike finished at Jantarmantar with a firm resolve to carry
> forward the struggle with more zeal and gusto. The next morning the
> undersigned briefed the GSSB Chairman Justice Kamleshwar Nath who
> appreciated and approved the proceedings held on 30th Jan.
> Ashok Arora
> Hony General Secretary, GSSB
>

RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

I was also with five satyagrahis at Jantar Mantar. There demands are pro-national our full support with them.
Rakhi Gupta, convener
School Bachao Abhiyan

--- On Sun, 6/2/11, raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
From: raja bunch <bunch_raja@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 6 February, 2011, 6:23 AM

Sheetal,may I have your contacy no.
Bunch-RTI activist

--- On Sat, 5/2/11, Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 5 February, 2011, 7:30 PM

Dear Sheetal ji,

 

            Thanks a lot. We are regular viewers of INDIA TV (including Rajat ji's 'Aap-ki-Adalat'). I shall try to write to you as and when the occasion arises.

 

            Regards,

                  KN

 

 

 

 

 

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath

Retd.

:

Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ),

Vice Chairman – C.A.T ( Allahabad ),

Judge – High Court ( Lucknow & Allahabad )

Address

:

`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh , India

Phone(s)

:

+91-522-2789033 & +91-522-4016459. Mobile : +91-9415010746

 


From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [mailto: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of mail
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:47 PM
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

 

Dear Viewer

Thanks for writing to INDIA TV. This is to inform you that your mail has been forwarded to the concerned producer.

Stay tuned to India TV. Do keep writing to us with your views and suggestions.

Thanks and Regards,

Sheetal

Response Executive.

 

 


From: humjanenge@googlegroups.com [ mail to: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:43 PM
To: humjanenge
Subject: [HumJanenge] Fwd: FW: Press Release

 

Message is fwded to HJ as per request of Justice Nath

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Justice Kamleshwar Nath <justicekn@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Subject: FW: Press Release

Dear All,

This 'Forwarded' Mail tells about the of events of FAST-UNTO-DEATH on
30.1.2011 by mentioned Satyagrahis of Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade.

To Sri Roy, it is in continuation of an earlier E- mail sent by me to him
just a few minutes ago.

       Regards,
             KN

From the Desk of :

Justice Kamleshwar Nath
Retd.
: Up-Lokayukta ( Karnataka ), Vice Chairman - C.A.T ( Allahbad ),
 Judge - High Court ( Lucknow & Allahbad )
Address
:
`Gunjan', C - 105, Niralanagar, Lucknow : 226 020. Uttar Pradesh , India
GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE
An All India NGO of Gandhian Persuasion, Registered Under the
Societies Registration Act, 1860
LAJPAT BHAWAN, LAJPAT NAGAR-IV,
NEW DELHI - 110 024

              February 3, 2011
                                                PRESS RELEASE

Our five Satyagrahis, namely Sh. Shambu Duttji (93) & Ms R.S. Devi
(84), Gandhians, who participated in 1942 Quit India movement and were
imprisoned, and Sh. Murari Lal (90), Sh. Amarnath (89) and Sh E James
Rajasekaran started their Fast-unto-Death on 30th of Jan. at
Jantarmantar to demand (i) Appointment of an effective Lokpal,
repeatedly committed by major political parties, (ii) Disqualification
of the candidates seeking election to Parliament and State
Legislatures against whom serious criminal cases are pending (as
recommended by four Chief Election Commissioners) and (iii)
Confiscation of illegally acquired property of public servants
including Ministers, MPs and MLAs & their benami transactions. Through
out the day, hundreds of people from all walks of life and from
different parts of the country visited them. Sh Shambu Duttji and
other Gandhians were requested the whole day for interviews from
number of journalists and admirers. Renowned journalist Shri Kuldeep
Nayar also visited Gandhians to extend his wholehearted support for
the cause.

We are coordinating with 'India Against Corruption' in this crusade
and the undersigned attended its meetings. Sh Arvind Kejriwal had
asked us to request the Satyagrahis to postpone their fast which
started from Jan. 30th since it clashed with their rally to which we
had expressed our reservation and told them that Satyagrahis' resolve
would in fact support their cause. Justice Sachar had a talk with
Swami Agnivesh who told me that he along with Kiran Bedi, Arvind
Kejriwal, Father Dominique, Teachers from Art of Living, Acharya from
Baba Ramdev Sect and many others would come to pay respect to these
Satyagrahis. He further informed that they planned to request
Satyagrahis to end their fast unto death since they all had resolved
to pursue the demand for Lokpal Bill with full force and public
support. In view of this development, I consulted all the members of
the working committee present at Jantarmantar (namely, Dr. Y.P. Anand,
Justice Rajindar Sachar, Shri R. Srinivasan, Shri B.R. Lall, Shri R.K.
Khandelwal, Shri Bhagvanji Raiyani, Prof Jagdeep Chhokar, Dr S K
Agarwal, Col. Karan Kharb and Shri P.S. Bawa) to know their views
about our proposed stand in case we were confronted with the situation
where all the above said persons along with hundreds of their
supporters made a request to Satyagrahis to break their
Fast-unto-Death. Every one thought that it would be extremely arrogant
if we don't agree with their request and for better support to the
cause it was definitely much wiser to put a joint front with the other
organisations pursuing the same cause. One member had a different
opinion but he too was quite concerned about the health of the
Satyagrahis. Advocate Prashant Bhushan and Justice Tewatia also came
to Jantarmantar to pay respect to Satyagrahis and they also requested
them to end their fast.  At about 6 pm on Jan. 30, all the above said
persons along with their supporters came to Jantarmantar and made a
passionate plea to the Satyagrahis to end their fast. Swami Agnivesh
told the gathering that since they all had taken up the cause to
demand an effective Lokpal Bill, the Satyagrahis therefore should not
continue their fast. Kiran Bedi also made a passionate and forceful
plea to Shri Shambhu Dutta Ji by saying, ' I am sitting at your feet
and will not get up till you end your fast'. Shri Shambu Dutt ji
explained to the gathering how we had been fighting for an effective
Lokpal and other two demands for the last so many years. He further
explained the background in which they were forced to undertake the
extreme step. The undersigned then informed the decision of the
Working Committee and others to the Satyagrahis to postpone their
fast. Justice Sachar, other members of the Working Committee, namely
Dr. Y P Anand Vice Chairman, Dr. SK Agarwal, Sh  PS Bawa and Col
Kharab also personally requested fasting Satyagrahis to postpone the
fast. Shri Shambu Dutta Ji then informed the gathering that because of
his love and respect for Swami Agnivesh, Kiran Bedi and others, he
would postpone the Fast-unto-Death for three months and hoped that
they would do their best to force the government to present an
effective Lokpal Bill at the earliest. Hundreds of people from all
walks of life clapped and welcomed this decision. Swami Agnivesh and
Kiran Bedi then offered  biscuits to the Satyagrahis to break their
fast. The undersigned thanked all for their support and commitment for
the cause and the gathering dispersed with lot of jubilations. The
month long Sataygraha that started on 1st of Jan 2011 with relay
hunger strike finished at Jantarmantar with a firm resolve to carry
forward the struggle with more zeal and gusto. The next morning the
undersigned briefed the GSSB Chairman Justice Kamleshwar Nath who
appreciated and approved the proceedings held on 30th Jan.
Ashok Arora
Hony General Secretary, GSSB