I donot agree. RTS should be seperate and not mixed with RTI. RTI only gives information whereas RTS should provide service.
DR N C Jain
27-12-10
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:10:54 +0530
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
> From: anonsharma@yahoo.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> TO MEMBERS
>
> Right to service proposed in Bihar is only a subset of section 4 RTI
> ACT which reqquires public authorities to publish norms for its
> functioning.
>
> Right to service ACT may only add some penalties for non compliance to
> these norms already required by RTI ACT, such as time to issue birth
> certificate, police verification for passport etc. and make it
> enforceable
>
> S D Sharma
>
> From: Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> dear ravi ji
>
> i will try to arrange it
> thanks
>
> ajay
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr Dubey
> >
> > Can we have a copy of the act if you have it in digital form?
> >
> > regards n bw
> >
> > ravi
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> dear friends
> >>
> >> madhya pradesh govt has already introduced this kind of law in oct 2010
> >> which is known as mp public service gurantee act 2010.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> ajay dubey
> >> 09893094043
> >> bhopal mp
> >>
Sunday, December 26, 2010
RE: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
I agree with you
DR N C Jain
27-12-10
From: haridgoyal@hotmail.com
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 05:26:32 +0530
Let this Group should appear an educated and enlightened one and no mermber or moderator should use abusive
and unparliamentary language for any body. I find members using objectionable language for information commissioners
or Chief Information Commissioners (past and present ones) in the Centre and in the States. We want 'VOICE' for the
voiceless millions of this nation through honest implementation of RTI Act, 2005.
Hari Goyal
27.12.2010
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:12:29 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
> From: humjanenge.owner@gmail.com
> To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Dear members
>
> In a few short months, the glory of the HumJanenge movement has been
> revived on this group. There is every indication that the power of
> this group will exceed that of all other groups till now.
>
> While appreciating the sentiments of the members to express themselves
> freely, as list-owner I am required to remind our esteemed members
> that we have regulations for our functioning. From 1st January
> (midnight of 31st December 2010) 2011 each and every regulation of
> this group will be enforced strictly, and members either terminated or
> put into moderated mode.
>
> On behalf of myself and this groups' moderators, I wish you all a
> Happy New Year.
>
> PMK
DR N C Jain
27-12-10
From: haridgoyal@hotmail.com
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 05:26:32 +0530
Let this Group should appear an educated and enlightened one and no mermber or moderator should use abusive
and unparliamentary language for any body. I find members using objectionable language for information commissioners
or Chief Information Commissioners (past and present ones) in the Centre and in the States. We want 'VOICE' for the
voiceless millions of this nation through honest implementation of RTI Act, 2005.
Hari Goyal
27.12.2010
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:12:29 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
> From: humjanenge.owner@gmail.com
> To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Dear members
>
> In a few short months, the glory of the HumJanenge movement has been
> revived on this group. There is every indication that the power of
> this group will exceed that of all other groups till now.
>
> While appreciating the sentiments of the members to express themselves
> freely, as list-owner I am required to remind our esteemed members
> that we have regulations for our functioning. From 1st January
> (midnight of 31st December 2010) 2011 each and every regulation of
> this group will be enforced strictly, and members either terminated or
> put into moderated mode.
>
> On behalf of myself and this groups' moderators, I wish you all a
> Happy New Year.
>
> PMK
Re: [HumJanenge] Re: ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
Thank you very much ! , All the best & HAPPY NEW YEAR
Regards,
( VIJAY SHAH )
Regards,
( VIJAY SHAH )
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 5:13 PM, PMK1504 <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear members
The following regulations may be particularly noted
1) No 'self publicity' or publicity for NGOs via posts to this mailing list.
NB: 'self publicity' includes posting contact particulars other than an email-ID..
2) No cross-posting (except in rare cases clearly marked as such).
3) No communal, sexist, racial, casteist etc message posts
In addition to regulate the volume of emails posted to this group
1) Regulation 1(a) which is presently "Message posts to be directly relevant to RTI or democracy, accountability, transparency, corruption in India " is amended to "Message posts to be directly relevant to RTI / Right to Information".
NB: all posts pertaining to "democracy, accountability, transparency, corruption in India" may be posted to the sister group "rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com" instead.
PMK
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 9:12 AM, PMK1504 <humjanenge.owner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear members
>
> In a few short months, the glory of the HumJanenge movement has been
> revived on this group. There is every indication that the power of
> this group will exceed that of all other groups till now.
>
> While appreciating the sentiments of the members to express themselves
> freely, as list-owner I am required to remind our esteemed members
> that we have regulations for our functioning. From 1st January
> (midnight of 31st December 2010) 2011 each and every regulation of
> this group will be enforced strictly, and members either terminated or
> put into moderated mode.
>
> On behalf of myself and this groups' moderators, I wish you all a
> Happy New Year.
>
> PMK
>
RE: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
Let this Group should appear an educated and enlightened one and no mermber or moderator should use abusive
and unparliamentary language for any body. I find members using objectionable language for information commissioners
or Chief Information Commissioners (past and present ones) in the Centre and in the States. We want 'VOICE' for the
voiceless millions of this nation through honest implementation of RTI Act, 2005.
Hari Goyal
27.12.2010
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:12:29 +0530
> Subject: [HumJanenge] ANOTHER IMPORTANT GROUP NOTICE
> From: humjanenge.owner@gmail.com
> To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> Dear members
>
> In a few short months, the glory of the HumJanenge movement has been
> revived on this group. There is every indication that the power of
> this group will exceed that of all other groups till now.
>
> While appreciating the sentiments of the members to express themselves
> freely, as list-owner I am required to remind our esteemed members
> that we have regulations for our functioning. From 1st January
> (midnight of 31st December 2010) 2011 each and every regulation of
> this group will be enforced strictly, and members either terminated or
> put into moderated mode.
>
> On behalf of myself and this groups' moderators, I wish you all a
> Happy New Year.
>
> PMK
RE: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
Dear RTI Activists,
An enlightened and educated group of RTI Activists trying to find get VOICE for the voiceless & victims of corruption, even such 'subsets'
should be welcome as they would get you to your goal.
Hari Goyal
Director, RTIDWARKA-Centre
> Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 21:10:54 +0530
> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] "Right to service" legislature in bihar by nitish kumar
> From: anonsharma@yahoo.com
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> TO MEMBERS
>
> Right to service proposed in Bihar is only a subset of section 4 RTI
> ACT which reqquires public authorities to publish norms for its
> functioning.
>
> Right to service ACT may only add some penalties for non compliance to
> these norms already required by RTI ACT, such as time to issue birth
> certificate, police verification for passport etc. and make it
> enforceable
>
> S D Sharma
>
> From: Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com>
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
>
> dear ravi ji
>
> i will try to arrange it
> thanks
>
> ajay
>
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Dear Mr Dubey
> >
> > Can we have a copy of the act if you have it in digital form?
> >
> > regards n bw
> >
> > ravi
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Ajay Dubey <ajay20dubey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> dear friends
> >>
> >> madhya pradesh govt has already introduced this kind of law in oct 2010
> >> which is known as mp public service gurantee act 2010.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> ajay dubey
> >> 09893094043
> >> bhopal mp
> >>
Re: [HumJanenge] FYI
| Most of us feel today clearly that RTI is Sham: Nothing but a hoodwinking ploy to fool the masses. Such loosely created regulations, amendments, ever new procedural changes are not without a reason. A nation of six decades experienced and seasoned tricksters are experts now to make mockery of everything and get away with it. Don't we feel that RTI was created on the lines that>>> " Say Something, Project Something but...Do Something Ashok Reach out and touch someone with your Love & Gratitude. ~Ashok --- On Sun, 26/12/10, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:
|
Re: [HumJanenge] FYI
Non compliance of information commission order is brought to the notice of information commission , But they have not directed to provide the information or imposed penalty , In karnataka commisison most of the cases are closed by the information commissioners directing the pio to provide the information , Before providing the information the case will be closed stating that 14000 cases are pending for disposal , The PIO's will forget subsequently to provide the information as per direction of the commission , The commission is nexus between bureucrats and having soft stand
once again if we knock the door of information commission there will be no use
SWAMY VIVEKANANDA SOCIAL AND POLITICAL REFORMATION MOVEMENT FOUNDATION
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, JSD PANI <jsdpani@gmail.com> wrote:
1.Non compliance of Information Commissioner's Orders is not a contempt of Court !!!!!!One should approach again Information Commission to direct the PIO to comply Commission's orders and also demabd to impose penalty on PIO.2. We are famous ( infamous ) either for nullifying any powerful legislation and / or for misusing/ abusing legislations3. Public awareness only create proper implementation and enforcement of any legslatiion and RTI act is not an exception.4. Yes, Pen is mightier than sword only once upon a time. Now what is required is rallies, public functions / mass gatherings to move government machinary including our netas. Let us not only blame the Govt machinary. It is Netas who can bring in change in the attitude of govt machinary. Unless NETAS get the heat of RTI we cannnot expect proper enforcement of RTI act.5. What is the program for RTI activists group to take on netas. Let us discuss.JSD PaniMahiti Hakku Jagruti Vedike98459 1771198453 09028--On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Ravindran P M <pmravindran@gmail.com> wrote:
This is why I have all along been mentioning that the rti act has been put on ventilator by the information commissioners and judges. In fact this is not the only case of hc rules being anti-rti. The high courts-most of them- have prescribed exorbitant application fees, introduced illegal fee for 1st appeal, introduced formats for application, 1st appeal etc. In fact I am yet to come across anybody who has got any satisfactory reply to his/her application made to any court.regards n bwraviOn Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Afd Pratidhi wrote:
Dear All,Greetings from AFD!Pls find Attached is a RTI sent to the the Jharkhand High Court and a reply received from them. This is to inform you that the Jharkhand High Court (Right to Information) Rules,2007 are not in harmony with the provisions of the RTI Act, 2005 as seen in the reply received where they are asking for the applicant's motive behind obtaining such information - whether it is "proper and legal".According to the RTI Act, 2005 Section 6(2) says ''an applicant making a request for information shall not be required to give any reason for requesting the information or any other personal details..........''Thanks & RegardsPriyanka Sinha
JSD Pani
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