Saturday, November 12, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] MODI finally accepts IAC demand to replace fake notes ... but ...

Dear respected Dr. Kameshwar ji

I would like to qualify this

1) It is not a masterstroke - but a poorly executed "late cut" hit towards third man (common person). I can assure you that all the big fish nation looters had already taken their money out several years ago and whatever remained in India was well diversified across asset classes.

2) Ending the fake currency menace ? Not in the medium term. Can anyone explain why BJP is spending Rs.12,000 crores on this conversion exercise if only Rs. 70 crores p.a. of fake notes were being pumped in ?

3) The common good will come in 3 ways

a) Erase GANDHI's visage from every Indian note. As long as Gandhi is promoted it is the litmus test that corruption exists. Gandhi is the very symbol of corruption and national decay.

b) Strengthen our armed forces, remove disparities, weaponise fast, scrap DRDO and HAL etc.and take the most firm action possible against insensitive and corrupt babus in MoD, FinMIn and PMO who are heavily bribed by our nation's enemies to keep our armed forces weak and pliable through bureaucratic machinations. We must especially take care to keep our jawans in proper spirit (and their unfortunate widows taken care of very soon and without corruption) because these are truly the salt of the earth that is defending India.

c)  Sort out two economic tasks on top priority.

(i) The salvation of the Indian peasantry must be achieved at all costs. 
The restoration of the profitability of the agronomic sector may be hard on the consumer, but the doom which would fall upon the entire nation should the Indian farmer perish would stand no comparison with these hardships.

(ii) We must publicly repudiate the bankrupt World Bank / IMF imposed policy prescrip[tions which had been foisted upon us by our political leadership. As a nation we must renounce this culture of consumerism which is being craftily embedded within our national psyche by the trader communities and learn to live within our means and not fall prey to credit based delusions of being in economic Disneyland.

Into that heaven of freedom, let my country awake

Sarbajit Roy


On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 10:12 AM, kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Shri Sarabjit and all friends in IAC,

Let us agree that this very move is a master stroke against all those who accumulated illegal wealth and the phenomena of fake currency menace. Every new change has its shortcomings but as it settles down, only the effects could be felt. In the words of Mark Tully, I quote "India is changing painfully and slowly" but the pain could well be tolerated for the common good in the near future.

Dr K S Elangbam


On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:08 PM, ravindra malhotra <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
 I think corrupt businessmen got left out in mail below by oversight. However it has been experience in India of last demonetisation of 1978 and of other countries, its effect does not last as the concerned people have minds more fertile than Govt. and condition becomes normal (as per their standard) in no time.

R.N.Malhotra




From: kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] MODI finally accepts IAC demand to replace fake notes ... but ...

DO NOT claim credit, demonetization of 500/1000 currency notes is not equivalent step by replacing old/counterfeit notes by new notes, this is a master stroke to politicians, corrupt bureaucrats, justices, defence personnel and from all walks of life, let us praise some one who has done uniquely great things for the country, immaterial which party it belongs to, NO PM COULD HAVE DONE THIS EXCEPT (L) INDIRAJI,  we are becoming a perennial anti establishment group, somehow this is unbecoming of IAC.

Dr K S Elangbam

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 4:50 PM, m.g.r. rajan <mgr_rajan@hotmail.com> wrote:
Demonetization to curb counterfeit and black money was necessary....but, having said that, I agree with all the points brought out by Shri Gaur. 

The poor, uneducated and insecure, who keep their savings at home, will be the ones most affected and will be victims of middlemen and dalals who will exploit them by exchanging the old currency at half the value. I sincerely hope they are taken care of.

Demonetization during election time is also a way to ensure that black money purchased votes decline. But again, Indians are famous for their jugaad! Our traditional faith in 'rokda' will go only if the people have faith in the banking organization and guarantee for the monies banked there. This will not happen as long as politicians are corrupt and control banks directly (private banks) or indirectly (nationalized banks).

MGR Rajan

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Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:02:55 PM

To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] MODI finally accepts IAC demand to replace fake notes ... but ...
 
9/11/16

For a change let me say it though there is an element of surprise it should have been delayed for some time.
The P.M . keeps on announcing new schemes without adequate groundw0rk. So it falls into the same catagory and success is doubtful for the 3 reasons/justification given for it-
Corruption
Black money
counterfeit currency.
He himself said day before that the politicians are very creative when it comes to the political class. The other sources of corruption is Civil servants who are equally creative in continuing corruption and help the politicians and themselves.
The third party is big business houses from here funds are generated. Use of currency notes will not change.
Black money-earlier it was claimed by the P.M and people Baba Ramdev that huge blackmoney is stashed abroad. What the Govt. has achieved so far? Inspite of his best efforts and intervention of Supreme Court has the Govt. anything to show worthwhile?
 Counterfeit currency- only shows confusion . Earlier when Dr. Rajan was the Governor the Public was asked to surrender all notes before 2005. People faced many problems but still complied. This will create more problem for the people specially middle class and lower middleclass and rural people. People have no faith that there money is safe with banks and the Govt. Besides thy know the main source for such notes is a
mainly one of the neighbouring country. So long as you depend on import of security paper, printing will continue and so will the routes through which these are brought into the country. 
Now let us say USD is a currency universally accepted and they have a system to check.A currency note of say 20 years can be changed without any risk. I am not aware how many developed countries have declared their currency notes invalid overnight?
When the P>M speaks so much about honesty and transparency why they are reluctant to bring all political parties and their funing under RTI? Are they not one of the biggest source of black money? Regds
JKGaur   




From: indiaresists-request@lists. riseup.net <indiaresists-request@lists. riseup.net> on behalf of Abanis Nayak <abanis@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 10:51 AM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] MODI finally accepts IAC demand to replace fake notes ... but ...
 
Moving forward the idea is to go minimum cash with digital payments like UPI etc , a tough road though but it is a good start.

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Ambrish <ambrish1008@gmail.com> wrote:
But it is still unclear:

1. How terror funding will be checked through it.

2.  People who had black money, were well informed about this and most of them have changed or invested.

3. It is also aired (rumour) that Rs. 2000/ note has GPS system.

4. How hawala karobar will be checked through it.

& many such questions/issues



On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
MODI finally accepts IAC demand to replace fake notes ... but ...

They finally HAD to listen to us on rampant menace of COUNTERFEIT currency .. but ...

Watch this space





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