Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Re: [.RTI.] [HumJanenge] Re: Bad publicity for HJ

Dear Nithya

1) You are not on the list.

2) When you requested to be unsubscribed from the list (quite some
time back), your status was made into "BANNED", which means that it is
impossible for you to apply to be a member until a list moderator
UNBANS you.

3) We have no records of how you originally came to be on the list.

4) I am one of the list moderators.

5) You cannot unsubscribe since you are not a member.

6) You cannot subscribe since you are banned.

7) As a non-member neither you nor any moderator can modify your settings.

8) From the subject of your email, it appears that you are receiving
emails from the [.RTI.] email aggregator. The procedure for
unsubscribing fro there has been been repeatedly advised by us
(although we are not bound to do so).

9) All emails from this group/list are publicly accessible and in the
public domain. Hence we have no control with what receipients /
viewers of emails circulated to the list do with them subsequently.

10) In your case, I note that you have 2 emails IDs. perhaps that is
the locus of your problem.

Sarbajit

On 3/15/12, Nithya V. Raman <nraman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Roy,
>
> Can you please explain how I came to be on this list? And who is the
> moderator? And how can I modify the settings and unsubscribe? When I write
> to googlegroups about this "humjanenge" it tells me no such group exists.
>
> Thank you for your prompt attention,
> Nithya
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:34 AM, sarbajit roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In the words of the "great" P.T.Barnum, "All publicity is good
>> publicity, just make sure they spell your name correctly".
>>
>> Just for the record, This group has only been sending out about 150
>> emails PER MONTH. In March we have sent only 114 emails till now - so
>> there is no question of a "flood of emails DAILY from
>> humjanenge@googlegroups.com". All these 114 emails are publicly
>> viewable on our group homepage. Also, there is no virus on the
>> HJ@googlegroups.com platform.
>>
>> Also for the record, the "flood of emails" at HJ@riseup.net has
>> stopped as the SYMPA software has been sorted out, and the members
>> list there has been reconciled.. It appears after the mid-day story
>> broke, about 1,000 new members have been added to the HJ@riseup.net
>> platform.
>>
>> Sarbajit
>>
>> On Mar 13, 11:17 pm, C K Jam <rtiwan...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/mar/130312-Many-at-their-wits-end-as...
>> >
>> > Many at their wits' end as unsubscribing fails to stop flood of RTI
>> group mails
>> >
>> > By: Adnan Attarwala Date: 2012-03-13 Place: Pune
>> >
>> > Group moderators say another website to blame
>> >
>> > Thousands of people across several states have been waking up each
>> morning to discover their email inboxes flooded with hundreds of unwanted
>> emails. The emails have been coming through a googlegroups forum called
>> > humjanenge@googlegroups.com, a group for netizens exchanging ideas and
>> messages on the Right to Information Act 2005.
>> >
>> > Ajay Jangrid, who works for an insurance firm, finds hundreds of
>> unwanted mails in his inbox every day.
>> >
>> > "I've been receiving 100-200 mails every day despite sending several
>> notices to the group," he said. "I've tried unsubscribing several times,
>> but to no avail."
>> >
>> > Though only those who register with the site can view replies posted by
>> RTI activists, since the past few weeks thousands of people across the
>> state, Gujarat and Karnataka who are not involved with any RTI queries
>> have
>> been receiving a barrage of messages from the group.
>> >
>> > Citizens say that the mails do not have the usual footer that allows
>> recipients to unsubscribe and most of them have never subscribed to this
>> group.
>> >
>> > "I wrote to someone called Sarbajit Roy, who claimed to be moderator of
>> the group, requesting them to unsubscribe me," said Kamal Patel, a citizen
>> who has been getting these mails.
>> >
>> > "The site has been infected by some virus. I had subscribed to it
>> earlier just to derive information on issues on which RTI had been filed.
>> But all of a sudden there has been spurt of mails, which is becoming a
>> nuisance.
>> >
>> > There are issues that I am not even interested in reading," said social
>> activist Jitendra Gupta.
>> >
>> > Nayana Kathpalia, co-convenor of the NGO Citispace, who has also been
>> receiving mails said, "Despite unsubscribing I've been receiving unwanted
>> mails. Somebody should complain about this."
>> >
>> > According to the administrators of the group, those wishing not to
>> receive these mails can immediately unsubscribe and the moderators
>> regularly post messages advising members how to unsubscribe.
>> >
>> > "If someone is not a member of humjanenge@googlegroups.com then they
>> are not receiving mails from our group, but they could be receiving
>> forwarded emails from the (RTI) network through other members," Sarbajit
>> Roy stated in an email.
>> >
>> > The moderators claim that the mails are being forwarded through another
>> site called riseup.net.
>> >
>> > "Nobody knew the procedure to unsubscribe there, and our mailing list
>> was being blamed for that," Roy said.
>>
>

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