Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order disclosure of information under Sec 18

Why should we assume that the SICs / CIC is expected to defend their orders.
Already the Delhi High Court has held that they are to be exempted
from being named as parties in such Writs.

It is only your presumption that the CIC can order disclosure of
information in complaint case. If that be so then where is the need
for appeal ? Please don't trivialise the complaint powers of the CIC
and bring it down to the level of appeals. You are being very foolish
through your ignorance and misleading group members on this vital
point.

Sarbajit

On 12/15/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> In this case the appellant to SC was Manipur State Information Commission
> (er) and naturally the govt. advocate must have fought the case. Such
> lapses, if our presumption is correct, like brining full facts to the
> knowledge of SC like provisions of section 18 that information should also
> be provided under this section, are not abnormal
>
> Without bringing the errors in the judgment to the knowlege of SC, how these
> error can be plugged? In such circumstances, such errors will become rules
> and every public authority will refuse to give information if complaint is
> filed.
>
>
> However, filing complaint cum appeal may be a via-media as suggested by one
> enlightened member.
>
>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 9:54 PM
> Subject: [HumJanenge] Re: SC rules that Info Commission cannot order
> disclosure of information under Sec 18
>
> Dear MK
>
> 1) The right course is to do nothing. The judgment is perfectly sound
> and should be appreciated.
>
> 2) The wrong course.is to file a curative petition.
>
> 3) The perfect course is to assail the bloody Union of CICs+SICs. The
> way they work is that CIC and a few SICs like Karnataka, AP, P&H etc
> have "federated" to muck up the RTI Act. The CIC doesn't show its hand
> because most of their cases get appealed to Delhi High Court & SC with
> strong opponents (like immodest me) who don't allow them to get away.
> But, if some poor appellant from Manipur who cant afford a senior
> advocate in SC or come in person for every hearing is the opponent,
> then the RTI movement / Act gets screwed.
>
> Unfortunately, we (the opponents) never unite, so "they" keep on
> getting gift horses like this from the SC.
>
> Sarbajit
>
> On Dec 14, 6:20 pm, "M.K. Gupta" <mkgupta...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>> U have not minced words while giving your reaction. Every body does not
>> possess that courage. This does not mean that every body feels that it is
>> a shocking nonsense but if some body else feels like that, may not gather
>> courage to display his feelings.
>>
>> The right course will be to go to the SC again in review etc. on the
>> ground of error of facts and law.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: jaiprakash narain <col...@yahoo.co.in>
>> To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2011 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] SC rules that Info Commission cannot order
>> disclosure of information under Sec 18
>>
>> It is shocking nonsense.
>>
> ----- Original Message -----
>

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