Sunday, April 24, 2011

Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View

साथियो
 
हम हार मानने वाले और हिम्मत हारने वाले नहीं है
अलीगढ में हमारा ट्रेप  ग्रुप अब इन बेईमानो से सड़क की लड़ाई की तैयारी कर रहा है
और बहुत जल्दी ही हम आप सभी को इस कार्यक्रम के प्रारम्भ करने की सूचना देने वाले है
हम होंगे कामयाब एक दिन


Bimal Khemani
RTI activist
ALIGARH-202001
INDIA
Mob:935-972-4625


--- On Sun, 24/4/11, M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: M.K. Gupta <mkgupta100@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 24 April, 2011, 5:15 PM

Vinod Pandya ji,
main aapke jajbe ki kadra karataa huin.  See, during the freedom movement, there were some persons who were on the other side for pecunary gains but we finally won the freedon.  Jai Chand aur Mir Jafar isi desh main huain hai lekin aapne unka hashra bhi padha hoga. 
 
Khemani ji, himmat haarane ki jaroorat nahin hai, sub chalta hai lekin uppar wale per bharosa rakho.  After Lokpal, electrol reforms, bringing back of stashed money, ratification of agreement with UNO on money parked in foreign banks will be high on agenda.  Faulty election process is the main reasion of political corruption.  If all these are succefssfully undertaken, the povery of our country will be allivated and v will march towards the rapid growth on the way of becoming number top, developed and powerful nation in the world.
Mahatma Gandhi recited "Sabko Sadbudhi de bhagwan".

--- On Sun, 24/4/11, vinod pandya <vinod_pandya20@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: vinod pandya <vinod_pandya20@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 24 April, 2011, 4:39 PM

for dear khemaniji
 why are u depresed ? is deshme jub tak insa jinda hai ,
insaniyat jinda hai,hum aur ap jaise lakho activist desh
ke liye kuchh bhi  balidan dene ke liya taiyar  baithe hai 
lakho yuva aj jan andolan ke liye subkuchh chhod ke bahar aye hai
aise khushi ke mahol me to desh ke liye hasate hasate marane ki 
khushi honi chahiye mere yaar  .chinta chhodane ka ye vakta hai 
kuchh kar dikhane ka ye vakta hai kyoki aise vakta jindgi me 
bahut kum ate hai.jyada sochho mat lage raho aj se anevali kal ko 
aur achhy banae bina hum mar bhi nahi payenge
regards
Vinod Pandya
9825551238

--- On Thu, 21/4/11, Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View
To: "Bimal Khemani" <bimal.khemani@gmail.com>, "DSouza Wilberious Evanglist" <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com, "Jagnarain Sharma" <jagnarain.sharma@gmail.com>, "virender johar" <virender.johar@gmail.com>, "Sandeep Jalan" <legallyspeaking.jalan@gmail.com>, ramdasnaikadv@gmail.com, sabhapathiur@gmail.com, majorravi@gmail.com, vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in, "Santosh Nargund" <spnargund@yahoo.com>, "urvashi sharma" <aishwaryaj.hpage@gmail.com>, "Abhimanyu" <who.will.file.rti@gmail.com>, "Bhaskar Prabhu" <mahitiadhikarmanch@gmail.com>, "Manoj Pai" <manojpai@yahoo.com>, "Dr.V.N. Sharma" <vnsh44@gmail.com>, parivartan_india@rediffmail.com, kabir.rti@gmail.com, ash.aswathi@gmail.com, info@annahazare.org, "Karmayog.org" <info@karmayog.org>, "Krishnaraj Rao" <sahasipadyatri@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 5:42 PM

Bimalji,
To kya kiya jai?Hathyaar daal diye jain?
Regards
Urvi

Friends
I am very sure, these politicians will do any thing to stop the LOKPAL bill to be passed

BIMAL KUMAR KHEMANI,
TRAP group of RTI activists
 ALIGARH (U.P.)
 Mob:09359724625
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On 21 April 2011 15:07, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Ms. Singh,
 
I shall do so. For it is time people of India chose a Commissioner of People (LokPal) by themselves. Profile of the candidate should be made public on internet newspapers. Person should be erudite in law & constitution as this person  will make President, Governors all states, CJIs of Supreme Court of India & all High Courts accountable to People of India with he or she by himself or herself accountable to People of India.
 
About 4 years ago I had suggested to then Election Commissioner Navin Chawla of issuing smart card ids to all citizens of India eligible to vote & using  by suitable interfacing with ATM networks all over the country, to be  coordinated by National Informatics Centre of Government of India so that entire nation votes  for assembly & Parliament election simultaneously on a single day, with results out on the very next day. No reply has been received yet. This would save billions of Rupees to nation. Nandan Nilekani headed UID project is least heard nowadays.
 
Similar means can be adapted for referendum for election of Lokpal as he/she will not be obliged to any executive of this country (executive having the same connotation as found in Art 12 of The Constitution of India). He/she shall be a true Commissioner/ess of The People of India, free, fair, equitable & fearless. Accountability to People of India should exist otherwise it would be a paradox of when one becomes Prabhu of Praja, he/she ceases to be Praja for ABSOLUTE POWER CORRUPTS ABSOLUTELY!
 
Similar process should have been adopted in appointment of CICs & SICs as well as State Lokayuktas. We would not have had unskilled workers quarrelling with tools. Nor failed dentists or Tehsildars being elevated to SICs E.g. Dr S.M.Krishna SIC Karnataka. Or Do as I say but Don't Do What I Do Lokayukta of Karnataka Justice K.S.Hegde!
 
Regards,
WEDS

From: Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>
To: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011, 0:11
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View

Do send this suggestion to the India Against Corruption webpage.They are co-ordinating the Lokpal effort.I am with you on this.
Regards
Urvi

Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:28 PM
Subject: [rti4empowerment] LOKPAL should be appointed by a referendum- ReplyFwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View

Dear Dr. Sharma,
 
Lokpal should be appointed by a referendum to people of India & Lokpal bill should include Prez, Governors of State, PM, Ministers & CJI of Suprememe Court & High Courts too. The candidates profile should be made public prior to referendum.
 
Regards,
WEDS
From: Dr.V.N. Sharma <vnsh44@gmail.com>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 10 April 2011, 11:38
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Fwd: Anna Hazare- A point of View

The Attached Article is a good one on Anna Hazare euphoria against corruption. It requires attention as to what this phenomena meant to Aam Aadmi of this country and what is the role of the corrupt so called Civil Society and externally funded NGOs and their corrupt representatives who were surrounding Anna and who represented the people of India in negotiations with corrupt ministers. Do we have to be careful?

This should be widely debated amongst the positive thinkers and Social Activists and necessary conclusion drawn as to how effective this movement against corruption will be. Does the positioning of a Jan Lokpal ensures warding off corruption from Head of the Govt. down to the local Babu level? The present arrangement seem to go up one more level from CBI to CVC and now Jan Lok pal. Whosoever appointed a CVC recently (removed by an SC Order) remains empowered to appoint a Jan Lokpal too. The PM knows nothing on any matter from price rise to price control to corruption by his party men, ministers and members of Parliament. 
Holding a well funded election for individual candidate at a given frequency indicates existence of Democracy- in Prajatantra mode, not in a Jantantra mode. What do the people expect from such TV and SMS publicised election. Is it that no social or political scientist or a politician sees this as a -ve change. For Parliamentarians and Legislatures it provides a good opportunity to remain aloof from the voters and make money through underhand deals as much as they can. 

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Dr.V.N.Sharma
Cell No.9431102680,
Co-ordinator, Jharkhand Shanti evam Nyaya Yatra (JSNY): May 15-20,2011
Member, Secretariat, All India Forum for Right to Education (AIF-RTE) 
Working Committee Member, Jan Sansad 









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